1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Taking a big cap hit next year. The initial cap savings reported this year is no where close to what it actually turned out to be. And now he's going to play under Saleh who had him playing at such a highly graded pass rush level that caused the Eagles to sign him, and the 49ers are only taking on a small portion of that cap hit to get him.

The cap hit this year is significantly less than what it was prior to the trade and also less than almost everyone expected it to be after a trade because Howie got the 49ers to pay the Eagles back some of the Bonus dollars that the Eagles had already paid Huff. If you expected more dollars than what Howie got, you were smoking wacky weed.

Your point about Saleh is both solid and valid, but the number of teams that had any interest in Huff was very small. So Howie was in a "beggars can’t be choosers” situation. And most importantly the 49ers must go through the Eagles to get to the Super Bowl. At some point you have to have confidence in your own team … and in your particular case, confidence in your Quarterback.

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Well, one didn't even dress for KC in the SB and another is a rookie late round pick. Nobody can know what they have right now, so I'd personally like to see them add one of the top 3 FA vets. If they all end up playing well they have options. If they need one 2 months from now because they didn't work it's not ideal.

I agree that would not be ideal, but it is a calculated risk.

I don't follow college, why are people so high on APR?

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I don't follow college, why are people so high on APR?

Sacks

39 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I don't follow college, why are people so high on APR?

With the Huff trade and BG’s retirement, the only player shown on the PE?com roster as a DE is KJ Henry, who has the athleticism to be an OLB. This is not a 4/3 team. When they go heavy, it could be something like Davis, Carter and Ojomo (for example), flanked by two OLBs with two ILBs behind them (basically a 3/4) with two Ss and two OCBs. But a light might be something like Hunt, Carter, Robinson, Smith with two ILBs and five DBs. The beauty of this is who is coming. The OLBs will mostly rush, seal the edge, but sometimes they may drop. The ILBs can all rush and arguably sometimes change position as part of a play where Campbell and Baun both have played on the edge. Look at the defensive options Fangio has. Huff like Reddick handicapped what Fangio might be able to do.

This whole handwringing about the lack of a DE is misplaced. The Eagles are well stocked at OLB. I think Ojulari will be a solid third in the rotation. While hoping for Hunt magic with APR is not realistic, as the #4 OLB, the raw material to work with is exciting. Last year, Henry and Mathis were on the PS. Best of them plus Uche or Patrick will offer PS depth this year.

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I just pummeled Brett Kollmann's youtube video. I suggest going and giving the video a thumbs down. And possibly even liking my comments!

Done and done!

2 hours ago, BigEFly said:

With the Huff trade and BG’s retirement, the only player shown on the PE?com roster as a DE is KJ Henry, who has the athleticism to be an OLB. This is not a 4/3 team. When they go heavy, it could be something like Davis, Carter and Ojomo (for example), flanked by two OLBs with two ILBs behind them (basically a 3/4) with two Ss and two OCBs. But a light might be something like Hunt, Carter, Robinson, Smith with two ILBs and five DBs. The beauty of this is who is coming. The OLBs will mostly rush, seal the edge, but sometimes they may drop. The ILBs can all rush and arguably sometimes change position as part of a play where Campbell and Baun both have played on the edge. Look at the defensive options Fangio has. Huff like Reddick handicapped what Fangio might be able to do.

This whole handwringing about the lack of a DE is misplaced. The Eagles are well stocked at OLB. I think Ojulari will be a solid third in the rotation. While hoping for Hunt magic with APR is not realistic, as the #4 OLB, the raw material to work with is exciting. Last year, Henry and Mathis were on the PS. Best of them plus Uche or Patrick will offer PS depth this year.

Turkey Hill Post of the Day!

16 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I'm thinking about the three moves Howie took the most grief for.

• Picked Darnell Pumphrey in a RB loaded draft - we won the SB 9 months later.

• Picked Jalen Reagor instead of Justin Jefferson - he selected Jalen Hurts in the next round.

• Signed Bryce Huff to a $51M contract - we won the SB 11 months later.

Please let me know if there is one I overlooked.

JJAW over Metcalf. Worse than Pumphrey IMO

8 hours ago, pallidrone said:

Done and done!

You think the NFL paid him for that propaganda?

Either way really disappointing to see that content in his channel which is normally great.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

You think the NFL paid him for that propaganda?

Either way really disappointing to see that content in his channel which is normally great.

I mean, I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it certainly feels like it.

The problem is that his data is flawed. He is looking at the increase in QB sneaks since 2016. What he does not talk about is the change in philosophy due to football analytics.

Next Gen Stats came out in 2016. That is when teams began to examine the numbers as a whole. The Eagles used those numbers on the way to their first Super Bowl win, which meant going for it on fourth down more than any other team. Since then (because this is a copycat league), more and more teams have used analytics like NGS to manage their gameday plans. I mean, for cripes' sakes, it is now included in the broadcast on what it says to do on any particular play. So his whole "surprise" about the increase in QB sneaks is just uneducated nonsense, and the "it is bad for TV" is just an excuse for data that someone does not understand.

There is a completely different flow to a football game now, which, IMHO, has made it a better product. The run, run, pass incomplete, punt scenarios are now fewer and farther in between. The thing that is killing the product is the terrible refereeing, but I don't see that getting fixed anytime soon.

Love this mindset

11 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree that would not be ideal, but it is a calculated risk.

Unnecessary one IMO

Over/Under Proposition …

Assuming no catastrophic injuries(we know ordinary injuries will happen anyhow) what % chance do you give us to repeat? I'm going with an over/under prop of 85%.

What say you?

Eagles Trade Bryce Huff to 49ers: What’s Next for Howie Roseman?

May 31

Written By Anthony DiBona

Bryce Huff was the most expensive addition that the Philadelphia Eagles made last offseason. Now fast forward to 2025 and Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is trading Huff to the San Francisco 49ers, according to multiple reports.

After a disappointing debut season in the City of Brotherly Love, it was clear that Huff was no longer a fit for the Eagles. Yet his sizable contract would seemingly make it difficult to trade him this offseason. Luckily, both sides were willing to renegotiate his contract to make a deal to the 49ers possible.

Once the Huff trade is official and Brandon Graham’s retirement processes on June 1st, Roseman will have two open roster spots to work with. Here are 10 players that the Eagles could target as potential roster additions in the coming weeks:

Blockbuster Trade Targets

Trey Hendrickson is clearly unhappy with the Cincinnati Bengals as he continues to wait for a contract extensions. Hendrickson is one of the best edge rushers in the NFL and should be rewarded as such. If the Bengals are unable to agree to a contract extension with Hendrickson, he could be on the move and the Eagles have five draft picks to offer in the first two days of the 2026 NFL Draft.

Travon Walker is coming off back-to-back double-digit sack seasons following a rough start to his NFL career. Yet there’s a new front office regime and coaching staff in Jacksonville as Waller was reportedly involved in trade rumors back in March. Walker played at Georgia with several Eagles players and Roseman loves to take chances on young players with high draft pedigree.

Kyle Pitts is reportedly a trade target for many teams as Jordan Schultz reported that the Atlanta Falcons have received calls and would need at least a day-two pick to entertain discussions. The Eagles are set to have four day two picks in the 2026 NFL Draft and a long-term need at tight end. Pitts is a Philadelphia native and would likely welcome a return home to join one of the best offenses in the NFL.

Free Agent Targets

Justin Simmons has essentially publicly campaigned to join the Eagles this offseason. While his best days are behind him, Simmons is a veteran safety that has experience working with both Vic Fangio and Christian Parker. Simmons would bring a much-needed veteran presence to Philadelphia’s safety room and immediately challenge for the starting job next to Reed Blankenship in 2025.

Za’Darius Smith isn’t the Pro Bowl edge rusher that he once was but he still has some juice to offer. Smith totaled nine sacks between his time with the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions last season. Philadelphia could surely use a bigger, veteran presence on the edge and Smith would certainly check both of those boxes for the Eagles at 6’4”, 270 lbs. with 10 seasons of NFL experience under his belt.

Raekwon Davis was released by the Indianapolis Colts with a non-football illness designation in March. Davis deals with high blood pressure, which held him out of practice with the Colts to start training camp last season. Yet he was eventually cleared and able to play in all 17 games in 2024. Philadelphia is lacking a veteran presence along the defensive line and Davis excelled in his lone season under Fangio in 2023.

Kyzir White is no stranger to Philadelphia, as he started several games for the Eagles in 2022. White followed Jonathan Gannon to the Arizona Cardinals after one season with the Eagles. Now White is still available on the open market as the Eagles are dealing with uncertainty at linebacker while Nakobe Dean and Jihaad Campbell both recover from major injuries. If the Eagles want to add a proven veteran at the position, White certainly fits that mold.

Other Trade Targets

Darnell Washington has settled into the TE2 role behind Pat Freiermuth for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yet the Steelers are reportedly interested in trading for Jonnu Smith and also signed Donald Parham Jr. in free agency. If Pittsburgh is willing to trade Washington, the Eagles should certainly give them a call. The 23-year-old has two year remaining on his rookie contract and spent time at Georgia with several Eagles players.

Michael Mayer is in a similar situation as Washington, as he is stuck behind Brock Bowers in Las Vegas. The Eagles don’t currently have a tight end under contract past 2025 and both Mayer or Washington have two years remaining on their rookie contracts. Mayer is a former second-round pick that has yet to reach his potential in the NFL. Yet that hasn’t scared Roseman away from taking chances on players with high draft pedigree before.

A.J. Epenesa has recorded 21.5 total sacks in five seasons with the Buffalo Bills. Yet he’s heading into a contract year and Buffalo has decided to make significant investments at edge rusher in Greg Rousseau, Joey Bosa and Landon Jackson this offseason. If the Bills are willing to trade Epenesa, I could certainly see Roseman being intrigued by his combination of age (26-years old) and experience (75 games played) on the edge.

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https://www.thephillyspecialshow.com/blog-posts/eagles-trade-bryce-huff-to-49ers-whats-next-for-howie-roseman

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Unnecessary one IMO

It isn’t practical to eliminate all risks. The trade off is that you mortgage the future.

With that said, if Howie does choose to bring in a veteran OLB (as I noted above I agree with @BigEFly’s assessment of Fangio’s approach to Edge), who would you like that OLB to be?

Well this article certainly left no stone unturned. Do any of DiBona’s listed possibilities resonate for anyone?

10 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Eagles Trade Bryce Huff to 49ers: What’s Next for Howie Roseman?

May 31

Written By Anthony DiBona

Bryce Huff was the most expensive addition that the Philadelphia Eagles made last offseason. Now fast forward to 2025 and Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is trading Huff to the San Francisco 49ers, according to multiple reports.

After a disappointing debut season in the City of Brotherly Love, it was clear that Huff was no longer a fit for the Eagles. Yet his sizable contract would seemingly make it difficult to trade him this offseason. Luckily, both sides were willing to renegotiate his contract to make a deal to the 49ers possible.

Once the Huff trade is official and Brandon Graham’s retirement processes on June 1st, Roseman will have two open roster spots to work with. Here are 10 players that the Eagles could target as potential roster additions in the coming weeks:

Blockbuster Trade Targets

Trey Hendrickson is clearly unhappy with the Cincinnati Bengals as he continues to wait for a contract extensions. Hendrickson is one of the best edge rushers in the NFL and should be rewarded as such. If the Bengals are unable to agree to a contract extension with Hendrickson, he could be on the move and the Eagles have five draft picks to offer in the first two days of the 2026 NFL Draft.

Travon Walker is coming off back-to-back double-digit sack seasons following a rough start to his NFL career. Yet there’s a new front office regime and coaching staff in Jacksonville as Waller was reportedly involved in trade rumors back in March. Walker played at Georgia with several Eagles players and Roseman loves to take chances on young players with high draft pedigree.

Kyle Pitts is reportedly a trade target for many teams as Jordan Schultz reported that the Atlanta Falcons have received calls and would need at least a day-two pick to entertain discussions. The Eagles are set to have four day two picks in the 2026 NFL Draft and a long-term need at tight end. Pitts is a Philadelphia native and would likely welcome a return home to join one of the best offenses in the NFL.

Free Agent Targets

Justin Simmons has essentially publicly campaigned to join the Eagles this offseason. While his best days are behind him, Simmons is a veteran safety that has experience working with both Vic Fangio and Christian Parker. Simmons would bring a much-needed veteran presence to Philadelphia’s safety room and immediately challenge for the starting job next to Reed Blankenship in 2025.

Za’Darius Smith isn’t the Pro Bowl edge rusher that he once was but he still has some juice to offer. Smith totaled nine sacks between his time with the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions last season. Philadelphia could surely use a bigger, veteran presence on the edge and Smith would certainly check both of those boxes for the Eagles at 6’4”, 270 lbs. with 10 seasons of NFL experience under his belt.

Raekwon Davis was released by the Indianapolis Colts with a non-football illness designation in March. Davis deals with high blood pressure, which held him out of practice with the Colts to start training camp last season. Yet he was eventually cleared and able to play in all 17 games in 2024. Philadelphia is lacking a veteran presence along the defensive line and Davis excelled in his lone season under Fangio in 2023.

Kyzir White is no stranger to Philadelphia, as he started several games for the Eagles in 2022. White followed Jonathan Gannon to the Arizona Cardinals after one season with the Eagles. Now White is still available on the open market as the Eagles are dealing with uncertainty at linebacker while Nakobe Dean and Jihaad Campbell both recover from major injuries. If the Eagles want to add a proven veteran at the position, White certainly fits that mold.

Other Trade Targets

Darnell Washington has settled into the TE2 role behind Pat Freiermuth for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yet the Steelers are reportedly interested in trading for Jonnu Smith and also signed Donald Parham Jr. in free agency. If Pittsburgh is willing to trade Washington, the Eagles should certainly give them a call. The 23-year-old has two year remaining on his rookie contract and spent time at Georgia with several Eagles players.

Michael Mayer is in a similar situation as Washington, as he is stuck behind Brock Bowers in Las Vegas. The Eagles don’t currently have a tight end under contract past 2025 and both Mayer or Washington have two years remaining on their rookie contracts. Mayer is a former second-round pick that has yet to reach his potential in the NFL. Yet that hasn’t scared Roseman away from taking chances on players with high draft pedigree before.

A.J. Epenesa has recorded 21.5 total sacks in five seasons with the Buffalo Bills. Yet he’s heading into a contract year and Buffalo has decided to make significant investments at edge rusher in Greg Rousseau, Joey Bosa and Landon Jackson this offseason. If the Bills are willing to trade Epenesa, I could certainly see Roseman being intrigued by his combination of age (26-years old) and experience (75 games played) on the edge.

Next

https://www.thephillyspecialshow.com/blog-posts/eagles-trade-bryce-huff-to-49ers-whats-next-for-howie-roseman

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree that would not be ideal, but it is a calculated risk.

Uche and Huff are great reminders that fit matters. Alot. Uche did well before KC

Now maybe he is just washed but if so no real harm done

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

It isn’t practical to eliminate all risks. The trade off is that you mortgage the future.

With that said, if Howie does choose to bring in a veteran OLB (as I noted above I agree with @BigEFly’s assessment of Fangio’s approach to Edge), who would you like that OLB to be?

We agree you can't eliminate all risks, but a vet on a one year deal doesn't mortgage the future. Have someone experienced who can take reps or fill in if necessary at edge. I think the article mentioned a few ideas. Trading with the Bengals isn't necessary, but I think Long proved in the first SB how valuable that rotational vet can be the same as BG last year. BigEFly made some good points as well.

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Uche and Huff are great reminders that fit matters. Alot. Uche did well before KC

Now maybe he is just washed but if so no real harm done

It’s Uche’s size. 226 is a little light. Ojulari has 14 pounds on him. As I see the likely rotation, discounting for when they go three heavy, Ojulari backs up Smith and Hunt with APR as potentially sliding in for some snaps. The question is whether APR can set the edge in the run game. I think there is a chance that Campbell splits snaps between ILB and OLB. Campbell is listed as three pounds lighter than Smith and five pounds lighter than Ojulari. Anyone that lifts knows that a layoff, (like one caused by shoulder surgery) can cause about a five pound drop in weight. So, for me, I suspect that Uche, Henry, Mathis and Johnson are on the outside looking for a last spot on the roster or until APR is ready. The battle for that fourth OLB spot is influenced by APR’s development and Campbell’s health and development. But those battling for the spot and potential PS spots are intriguing. For example, Henry’s athleticism can’t be overlooked. Question for me is if the same build of rush move repertoire that Hunt saw influenced Henry as well.

11 hours ago, BigEFly said:

With the Huff trade and BG’s retirement, the only player shown on the PE?com roster as a DE is KJ Henry, who has the athleticism to be an OLB. This is not a 4/3 team. When they go heavy, it could be something like Davis, Carter and Ojomo (for example), flanked by two OLBs with two ILBs behind them (basically a 3/4) with two Ss and two OCBs. But a light might be something like Hunt, Carter, Robinson, Smith with two ILBs and five DBs. The beauty of this is who is coming. The OLBs will mostly rush, seal the edge, but sometimes they may drop. The ILBs can all rush and arguably sometimes change position as part of a play where Campbell and Baun both have played on the edge. Look at the defensive options Fangio has. Huff like Reddick handicapped what Fangio might be able to do.

This whole handwringing about the lack of a DE is misplaced. The Eagles are well stocked at OLB. I think Ojulari will be a solid third in the rotation. While hoping for Hunt magic with APR is not realistic, as the #4 OLB, the raw material to work with is exciting. Last year, Henry and Mathis were on the PS. Best of them plus Uche or Patrick will offer PS depth this year.

If Uche is indeed washed then we definitely are thin at Edge. I’m optimistic about APR, but like Hunt was at this time last year, APR is going to need to evolve his college game into a pro game, so he really can’t be relied on to play an active/meaningful role until the Bye.

As Toast has said, Uche being washed is "no real harm done” but it does have consequences.

31 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Uche and Huff are great reminders that fit matters. Alot. Uche did well before KC

Now maybe he is just washed but if so no real harm done

56 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Eagles Trade Bryce Huff to 49ers: What’s Next for Howie Roseman?

May 31

Written By Anthony DiBona

Bryce Huff was the most expensive addition that the Philadelphia Eagles made last offseason. Now fast forward to 2025 and Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is trading Huff to the San Francisco 49ers, according to multiple reports.

After a disappointing debut season in the City of Brotherly Love, it was clear that Huff was no longer a fit for the Eagles. Yet his sizable contract would seemingly make it difficult to trade him this offseason. Luckily, both sides were willing to renegotiate his contract to make a deal to the 49ers possible.

Once the Huff trade is official and Brandon Graham’s retirement processes on June 1st, Roseman will have two open roster spots to work with. Here are 10 players that the Eagles could target as potential roster additions in the coming weeks:

Blockbuster Trade Targets

Trey Hendrickson is clearly unhappy with the Cincinnati Bengals as he continues to wait for a contract extensions. Hendrickson is one of the best edge rushers in the NFL and should be rewarded as such. If the Bengals are unable to agree to a contract extension with Hendrickson, he could be on the move and the Eagles have five draft picks to offer in the first two days of the 2026 NFL Draft.

Travon Walker is coming off back-to-back double-digit sack seasons following a rough start to his NFL career. Yet there’s a new front office regime and coaching staff in Jacksonville as Waller was reportedly involved in trade rumors back in March. Walker played at Georgia with several Eagles players and Roseman loves to take chances on young players with high draft pedigree.

Kyle Pitts is reportedly a trade target for many teams as Jordan Schultz reported that the Atlanta Falcons have received calls and would need at least a day-two pick to entertain discussions. The Eagles are set to have four day two picks in the 2026 NFL Draft and a long-term need at tight end. Pitts is a Philadelphia native and would likely welcome a return home to join one of the best offenses in the NFL.

Free Agent Targets

Justin Simmons has essentially publicly campaigned to join the Eagles this offseason. While his best days are behind him, Simmons is a veteran safety that has experience working with both Vic Fangio and Christian Parker. Simmons would bring a much-needed veteran presence to Philadelphia’s safety room and immediately challenge for the starting job next to Reed Blankenship in 2025.

Za’Darius Smith isn’t the Pro Bowl edge rusher that he once was but he still has some juice to offer. Smith totaled nine sacks between his time with the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions last season. Philadelphia could surely use a bigger, veteran presence on the edge and Smith would certainly check both of those boxes for the Eagles at 6’4”, 270 lbs. with 10 seasons of NFL experience under his belt.

Raekwon Davis was released by the Indianapolis Colts with a non-football illness designation in March. Davis deals with high blood pressure, which held him out of practice with the Colts to start training camp last season. Yet he was eventually cleared and able to play in all 17 games in 2024. Philadelphia is lacking a veteran presence along the defensive line and Davis excelled in his lone season under Fangio in 2023.

Kyzir White is no stranger to Philadelphia, as he started several games for the Eagles in 2022. White followed Jonathan Gannon to the Arizona Cardinals after one season with the Eagles. Now White is still available on the open market as the Eagles are dealing with uncertainty at linebacker while Nakobe Dean and Jihaad Campbell both recover from major injuries. If the Eagles want to add a proven veteran at the position, White certainly fits that mold.

Other Trade Targets

Darnell Washington has settled into the TE2 role behind Pat Freiermuth for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yet the Steelers are reportedly interested in trading for Jonnu Smith and also signed Donald Parham Jr. in free agency. If Pittsburgh is willing to trade Washington, the Eagles should certainly give them a call. The 23-year-old has two year remaining on his rookie contract and spent time at Georgia with several Eagles players.

Michael Mayer is in a similar situation as Washington, as he is stuck behind Brock Bowers in Las Vegas. The Eagles don’t currently have a tight end under contract past 2025 and both Mayer or Washington have two years remaining on their rookie contracts. Mayer is a former second-round pick that has yet to reach his potential in the NFL. Yet that hasn’t scared Roseman away from taking chances on players with high draft pedigree before.

A.J. Epenesa has recorded 21.5 total sacks in five seasons with the Buffalo Bills. Yet he’s heading into a contract year and Buffalo has decided to make significant investments at edge rusher in Greg Rousseau, Joey Bosa and Landon Jackson this offseason. If the Bills are willing to trade Epenesa, I could certainly see Roseman being intrigued by his combination of age (26-years old) and experience (75 games played) on the edge.

Next

https://www.thephillyspecialshow.com/blog-posts/eagles-trade-bryce-huff-to-49ers-whats-next-for-howie-roseman

Darnell Washington would be an interesting addition.

28 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We agree you can't eliminate all risks, but a vet on a one year deal doesn't mortgage the future. Have someone experienced who can take reps or fill in if necessary at edge. I think the article mentioned a few ideas. Trading with the Bengals isn't necessary, but I think Long proved in the first SB how valuable that rotational vet can be the same as BG last year. BigEFly made some good points as well.

Weren’t Long and BG more 4-3 DEs than 3-4 OLBs?

With that asked, Fangio used BG rather effectively last season, so it is understandable if a veteran DE who really can’t drop back into coverage like a 3-4 OLB can would still be a valuable resource in Fangio’s hands.

1 hour ago, pallidrone said:

The thing that is killing the product is the terrible refereeing, but I don't see that getting fixed anytime soon.

Amen. THAT is what people talk about much more than hating the Tush Push.