2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Another thing I wanted to mention about the draft unrelated to the inside access video.

I absolutely love the pick of Ty Robinson. I think with his age, skill set, and experience he will likely be a contributor at least by the second half of the season and has that floor to be a good 4th DT, but with his athletic ability and size also has upside to be more down the road. I would have liked the pick at 96. To be able to move down twice and gain a 5th round pick in 2025, and a 6th round pick that became Myles Hinton are the types of wins on the margins that Howie constantly gains especially on day three of the draft. It almost feels like other teams ease up on day three when it comes to trades and Howie is extra locked in and motivated to find those small wins on the margins that add up.

I agree with all that you have said. The whole pick 96 sequence was a thing of beauty. As was mentioned above by @Diehardfan the teams who were highly wary of Howie when he wanted to trade up, seemed to let down their guard when they had the opportunity to trade up and he wanted to trade down.

Sounds like the Eagles liked Conerly a lot based on Howie’s reaction. He might have been a backup plan. Would make sense, he’s got the athleticism the eagles covet in OTs.

That video reminds me of how lucky I am being a fan of a well-run organization.

Being the best doesn't mean being perfect. Even though the board didn't cooperate, they kept true their process and didn't force picks.

Interesting that Howie talked about 2018's day three. I am confident that one or two from the eight we chose this year will be impactful and get a second contract here.

I wonder if the big tradeup target was Pearce, as he’s a healthy edge and ATL gave up a boatload for him. Howie could mock the Falcons about the price, but perhaps there was a little sour grapes about the player.

I prefer Campbell, so alls well that ends well - but I don’t put it past Howie to spin the most positive narrative out of an obscured chain of events.

5 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I wonder if the big tradeup target was Pearce, as he’s an healthy edge and ATL gave up a boatload for him. Howie could mock the Falcons about the price, but perhaps there was a little sour grapes about the player.

I prefer Campbell, so alls well that ends well - but I don’t put it past Howie to spin the most positive narrative out of an obscured chain of events.

Laurie telling Campbell "we've been trying to get you for an hour" and then some other comments about "well we weren't trying to be patient but we ended up that way" or something along those lines makes me think the target was Campbell all along.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

Williams sounds like a perfect candidate to move to RG.

Not the worst plan, if true. Im sure they keep Options open

If Steen plays well or poorly, either way probably looking for a cheaper RG option with all our huge deals

25 minutes ago, TEW said:

Sounds like the Eagles liked Conerly a lot based on Howie’s reaction. He might have been a backup plan. Would make sense, he’s got the athleticism the eagles covet in OTs.

Was very likely in the list of 6 names

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Laurie telling Campbell "we've been trying to get you for an hour" and then some other comments about "well we weren't trying to be patient but we ended up that way" or something along those lines makes me think the target was Campbell all along.

Absolutely. He was the only guy with the upside worth trading a future second round pick to get in my opinion.

I’m over the moon with Campbell. I didn’t think we’d have any interest because he’s a LB, and I didn’t think there was any chance he’d fall to within striking distance on top of that.

But this kid has the potential to be an all-pro type of player. The kind of guy who makes a real impact in multiple aspects of the game, be it pass rushing, run defense or coverage. He’s going to need to get healthy, and he does need some work on play recognition, but you just can’t teach what he can do athletically.

Its bizarro world…two three down LBs in fangios scheme with a stud "nickel”

I expect Mukuba will start.

Only real camp battle on defense is for cb2. def might even be better this yr

29 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I wonder if the big tradeup target was Pearce, as he’s an healthy edge and ATL gave up a boatload for him. Howie could mock the Falcons about the price, but perhaps there was a little sour grapes about the player.

I prefer Campbell, so alls well that ends well - but I don’t put it past Howie to spin the most positive narrative out of an obscured chain of events.

I don’t think so. They were briefly speculating on who the Falcons were trading up for and Howie said a couple of names, then said ….. "or Pearce”. He said it kind of passively which made me think he wasn’t too upset about it.

49 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I wonder if the big tradeup target was Pearce, as he’s a healthy edge and ATL gave up a boatload for him. Howie could mock the Falcons about the price, but perhaps there was a little sour grapes about the player.

I prefer Campbell, so alls well that ends well - but I don’t put it past Howie to spin the most positive narrative out of an obscured chain of events.

I was never on the Pearce train. I also had given up on falling to us. I felt he was much too good value for all too many teams above us to ever drop to 32 but it worked out.

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don’t think so. They were briefly speculating on who the Falcons were trading up for and Howie said a couple of names, then said ….. "or Pearce”. He said it kind of passively which made me think he wasn’t too upset about it.

Yeah I don't think Pearce was on their guys. I think mostly the guys that visited that gotten taken in between were guys they'd have taken besides Campbell who was their target

25 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its bizarro world…two three down LBs in fangios scheme with a stud "nickel”

I expect Mukuba will start.

Only real camp battle on defense is for cb2. def might even be better this yr

Can you imagine if he nailed the first 3 picks again? I think one or two others become valuable as backups if nothing else as well. Holy crap that would be huge in a weaker draft with that many picks next year.

I know we are this lucky to be fans right now but after the previous few decades it seems surreal. It still hasn't fully hit me we have two SBs. We are the luckiest Eagles fans in history.

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Not the worst plan, if true. Im sure they keep Options open

If Steen plays well or poorly, either way probably looking for a cheaper RG option with all our huge deals

The best scenario for the Eagles regarding Steen is that (1) he plays spectacularly this season, and as a result raises his value across the league. (2) if indeed the Eagles believe that Williams is very capable as a right guard, then trading Steen after the season for a high pick to a team that wants that rookie contract and proven veteran right guard to add to their O-Line

That is a win-win all the way around.

58 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its bizarro world…two three down LBs in fangios scheme with a stud "nickel”

I expect Mukuba will start.

Only real camp battle on defense is for cb2. def might even be better this yr

Baun, Campbell, Dean, Trotter, Mondon … we actually have some players at LB!!

31 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Yeah I don't think Pearce was on their guys. I think mostly the guys that visited that gotten taken in between were guys they'd have taken besides Campbell who was their target

I’m in the 6 player boat, where I wouldn’t want to give a 2nd for any of the players that fell into the 20s (ex. 3rd for Harmon)… however 32 + 5th for the most intriguing of the prospects remaining was a great outcome.

6 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Baun, Campbell, Dean, Trotter, Mondon … we actually have some players at LB!!

I feel bad for Dean bc of the injury. Likely his last season here. I think Mondon can play

Halfway there. Getting those guys in for week three of Phase 1 is important.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Laurie telling Campbell "we've been trying to get you for an hour" and then some other comments about "well we weren't trying to be patient but we ended up that way" or something along those lines makes me think the target was Campbell all along.

It's been 2 years in a row where a 1st rounder that they wanted, nigh on fell into the teams lap by doing nothing. Perhaps something the team can learn from

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Laurie telling Campbell "we've been trying to get you for an hour" and then some other comments about "well we weren't trying to be patient but we ended up that way" or something along those lines makes me think the target was Campbell all along.

I’d imagine around 18 was when the feelers started, with Barron & Campbell being eyed and by 22 they got serious with Barron coming off the board at 20. I want to include Starks, but IDK that I’d rate him personally high enough to move up that far for.

11 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Just watched. Obvious they really wanted Campbell then the rest of the draft went as we suspected. Probably not exactly as they hoped but got a few guys on their list

Really REALLY happy there was that foul up with San Diego. Got the guy they wanted AND didn't have to give up the 2nd... and maybe more in the process. It makes the flip and giving up the 5th rounder look like an absolute steal!

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Hell, we have seen Calcaterra in the upback position. Jackson is too slight. The upback needs to be able to block a lot because that is the primary operation of that position. I think Shipley is still the KOR. PR is probably going to one of the WRs.

Last year I remember two deep men, Gainwell and Shipley. I don't recall anyone else as an 'upback' with the new format.

4 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Weird that he’s nearly the cheapest. DT really that undervalued?

It’s a combo of things. It’s the average of the 3rd to 25 over the last 5 years so you basically are ruling out the really high paid DT’s like Donald and Jones. Then Davis didn’t hit any probowl or playing time escalators so he’s just getting the minimum.

5 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Oh, and Howie was nuts to offer 32/64 for Campbell. The Chargers were even more nuts.

Yup. If he's an absolute stud though... the cost won't matter much.

I wonder if they were going to get something back besides Pick 22. 22 isn't worth 32 and 64 by a long shot, so SOMETHING should have been returned. Likely a flipping of some other picks as well. But, how great is it that they got the guy they wanted for only a 5th round pick, while being willing to give up so much more! That was still an overpay to move up one spot... but not nearly so pricey as to get to 22.