3 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Did Carter do anything yesterday or does he keep getting cheaper?

He made a couple of plays and looked a little better at times in the 1st half. Still has a ways to go.

4 hours ago, Swoop said:

The last time that happened for us was 50 years ago, so I'd say yes

A blocked FG hasnt happened for this team in 50 years? Nah. Happened much more recently.

And doing it twice in the same game means they saw something in the OL and exploited it. Not flukes at all. That's being prepared for an opportunity.

I think Patullo is reacting too much instead of trying to dictate.

And I think the Eagles absolute ineptitude running the ball just highlights it.

When you're up 14 in the 4th quarter with the ball, you run it. We couldnt, or didn't, or both.

That's quite literally what the team is built to do but they keep letting teams hang around because they can't run it.

To me, that and the unforced penalties are unacceptable.

There's no reason they can't spread people out and just have Barkley pick a hole. It really is that easy.

And there's also no excuse for the OL to suck this bad at run blocking. If theyre hurt, get them out of the game. Enough of this talk of accountability without any real accountability.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

A blocked FG hasnt happened for this team in 50 years? Nah. Happened much more recently.

And doing it twice in the same game means they saw something in the OL and exploited it. Not flukes at all. That's being prepared for an opportunity.

Blocking two FGs in the same game, which you pointed out, happened 50 years ago.

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Blocking two FGs in the same game, which you pointed out, happened 50 years ago.

Ah yes. That part.

From Kempski

Since I have now read that Skip Bayless believes the officials robbed the Eagles, I recant my earlier position. The Eagles screwed themselves in this game with bad penalties at bad times.

I know that even a broken clock is right twice a day, but skip is far far less reliable than a broken clock. He might be right twice a decade. This might be one of those rare occasions but I can't take that chance.

@mattwill Eagles have a get right game against the Giants.

Eagles 30

Little people 13

Bonus: Defense records 3 sacks.

We clearly got out of our main gameplan with running the ball in the 4th. The Eagles were a TD away from putting the game away. AJ catches that TD and it's 24-3. I don't think Jalen needed to pass 38 times. Some of those touches should have been Saquon on the ground especially in the 4th. This doesn't excuse some of those BS calls but we can't excuse how we played in the 4th.. Well quick turnover. GMen in 4 days. It's a division game but a game for us to get back on track. They were 3-2 after five last year. 4-1 this year. The disappointing thing was they've done this back to back games in the 4th playing a little too conservative and not just pounding the rock to sustain drives.

3 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

We clearly got out of our main gameplan with running the ball in the 4th. The Eagles were a TD away from putting the game away. AJ catches that TD and it's 24-3. I don't think Jalen needed to pass 38 times. Some of those touches should have been Saquon on the ground especially in the 4th. This doesn't excuse some of those BS calls but we can't excuse how we played in the 4th.. Well quick turnover. GMen in 4 days. It's a division game but a game for us to get back on track. They were 3-2 after five last year. 4-1 this year. The disappointing thing was they've done this back to back games in the 4th playing a little too conservative and not just pounding the rock and end the game.

The left side of the OL hasnt been healthy all season and we typically rely on those two

5 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

The left side of the OL hasnt been healthy all season and we typically rely on those two

Need to get Dickerson healthy. I don't want to see him again until after the bye. We can go 2-1 over the next three and be in great position and hopefully with an improved Dickerson which equals an improved running game.

Not sure if was mentioned, but Smith said that certain receivers are "missing signals" in his post game.

One has to wonder if Brown might be intentionally ignoring play calls. His effort seems very half assed more and more frequently. He and Hurts both confirmed that they didn't discuss the miss.

Going to be interesting to see what happens if this continues.

10 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Need to get Dickerson healthy. I don't want to see him again until after the bye. We can go 2-1 over the next three and be in great position and hopefully with an improved Dickerson which equals an improved running game.

Giants can rush the passer but not much else. Have to commit to the run and wear them down

17 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

The left side of the OL hasnt been healthy all season and we typically rely on those two

I understand the O-Line has injury issues but Saquon only had 6 carries. I know we were up all game but that just doesn't sit right with me. We have to find a way to be more effective in the run game. But yes O Line issues are taking the toll.

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Giants can rush the passer but not much else. Have to commit to the run and wear them down

That works. Just need to get a W on Thursday. I don't care about any of the style points in this one.

2 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

I understand the O-Line has injury issues but Saquon only had 6 carries. I know we were up all game but that just doesn't sit right with me. We have to fine a way to be more effective in the run game. But yes O Line issues are taking the toll.

Oh i agree and the tight formations make no sense to me. Not sure wtf the OC is trying to do, honestly

33 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

From Kempski

This is what bad leadership is. From both coaches and players.

7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That works. Just need to get a W on Thursday. I don't care about any of the style points in this one.

Division games are the most critical. Losing out of conference to Denver stings, but losing to the Giants would be crushing.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Division games are the most critical. Losing out of conference to Denver stings, but losing to the Giants would be crushing.

Exactly, out of Conference loss. Only time we see the AFC when it matters is in the Bowl. If we take any losses this year they need to be in the AFC (We still have Raiders, Chargers and Bills). Conference games mean more. A Win on Thursday and the Eagles are 4-0 in the Conference.

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

This is what bad leadership is. From both coaches and players.

Not from coaches. Its already miraculous that Siri held the offense, and team together as long as he did. And that they all bought in and put egos aside long enough to win a super bowl.

I dont even blame hurts' leadership either. Again, he was able to keep Brown happy for years now.

There is no hiding the fact of what Hurts is as a QB, and theres just not going to be any legitimate WR who doesnt eventually become discontent playing with a bad QB.

I only blame AJ Brown for not recognizing it from the start. He should have known not to come play with Hurts.

59 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I think Patullo is reacting too much instead of trying to dictate.

And I think the Eagles absolute ineptitude running the ball just highlights it.

When you're up 14 in the 4th quarter with the ball, you run it. We couldnt, or didn't, or both.

That's quite literally what the team is built to do but they keep letting teams hang around because they can't run it.

To me, that and the unforced penalties are unacceptable.

There's no reason they can't spread people out and just have Barkley pick a hole. It really is that easy.

And there's also no excuse for the OL to suck this bad at run blocking. If theyre hurt, get them out of the game. Enough of this talk of accountability without any real accountability.

We didn't run, not that we couldn't. Didn't even try.

8 hours ago, Cliftoma said:

A loss may be the best thing that happens to this team. Scratching out wins against teams albeit some the better teams, is not the standard they talk so much about. The got a get right game this week after a short week. Winning cures everything but we need to see a convincing win with consistency for 4 quarters.

At this point, they need to start seeing who they might be able to bring in at OL so Dickerson can get right and in case of further injuries. Toth/Pryor aren't cutting it as first guys off the bench.

I don't think the Giants are a "get right game" at this point. The Giants DL would be a great challenge for a healthy Eagles OL playing up to their capabilities. Instead, they are playing a beat up Eagles OL playing like dog ish.

What we need to hope is that the defense just takes over the game and makes Dart hate life. They need to stop the run and force him to beat them. Right now, stopping the run is what they are worst at.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think that Vikings game is going to be tougher than we think. Not saying they aren’t going to win but Patullo is going to face a Brian Flores. That’s a big test for patullo. At least we have extra days prior.

That said the Eagles in my opinion, still have the most talent of any roster. the issue to me is like 2023 where they have to put it together for all 60 minutes. This team is far more talented than that year. But same question are they going to give you a full 60 minutes and a complete game. Sadly right now the last time the Eagles gave you a complete 60 minutes was in Super Bowl 59.

I'll be extremely brutal for a minute. For the last few years, we've been extremely good at minimizing the talent of our passing offense relative to what it has on paper, and it feels like it's continuing.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I don't think the Giants are a "get right game" at this point. The Giants DL would be a great challenge for a healthy Eagles OL playing up to their capabilities. Instead, they are playing a beat up Eagles OL playing like dog ish.

What we need to hope is that the defense just takes over the game and makes Dart hate life. They need to stop the run and force him to beat them. Right now, stopping the run is what they are worst at.

It's getting really tiring needing to have our significantly younger and less expensive defense be the backbone of the team while the high priced offense fails to deliver the kind of production it's being paid. People tend to constantly talk about winning as a distraction from issues, but fail to talk about why we're winning. We're winning because we have a defense that minimizes the work the offense needs to do, and that's exactly why we lost yesterday. The offense cannot deliver consistent performances, and the only reason they even could somewhat last year is because Saquon Barkley had one of the most explosive seasons a RB has ever had, behind one of the greatest OL we've ever had. And I don't mean that to be rude to Barkley, but I mean that in the sense that having that kind of piece by piece perfection is very rare in the NFL.

Jalen has had that for several years. The blatant truth is that QBs that are considered great must be able to show what they could do even when things aren't perfect. If that's not the case, you're not great, you're just good.

8 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

Taking a step back, the results in the second half for the offense were not there but this was a step forward from the passing game relative to second half last week.

Are there things to fix - for sure. We still had 3 straight 3 and outs, after a drive with 1 first down which simply cant happen. But there were signs of life:

• Deep shot to AJ was close - just need to get our two key guys on the same page

• RPO worked but for OL being downfield

• The 4th down play worked but for penalty on Saquon

• The made some (but not enough) plays in desperation mode

Yes there are execution issues to fix: penalties, run blocking, sacks / holding on to the ball, more balanced play-calling BUT this wasn't as bad a 2nd bad half showing as last week (and yes - that is a very low base to compare from)

I appreciate the positive outlook, but even if we want to call this game a step forward for the offense, that's pretty pathetic. There's 1 new starter and a new OC. This team has All-Pros and Pro Bowlers across the starting lineup and we're talking about a step forward by looking at pretty normal, basic plays. We're going in to week 6 and we're trying to find glimmers of hope by saying they ran an RPO and it worked. Well damn, let's get the ticker tape ready. That's not sarcasm directed at you, it's directed at how poor this team has been playing.

There are issues across the board. The OC, QB, OL, WR1's head and discipline across the board. This is where Sirianni needs to step in and earn whatever Lurie paid him on his extension. Prove you're a leader of men and not just a trash talking frat boy. Get the team right.

5 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Did Carter do anything yesterday or does he keep getting cheaper?

I saw a couple of great rushes, especially on the Za'Darius Smith sack, but I also see him explode out of his stance either so fast our out of control that he's immediately on his knees and all the OL has to do is push down on his back. It's been a problem of his from Day 1. I love his aggressiveness and explosiveness, but I still think he plays entirely too out of control. He's his own worst enemy.