19 hours ago19 hr 3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:It’s uncanny how Hurts haters forget the dozens and dozens of plays he’s made that’s won us games but remember the ONE or two bad plays he’s made. And they harp on those two plays for weeks.It really is a disorder.Hurts Derangement SyndromeH.D.S.LOL. Just like TDS. It's a real thing. They can't talk about anything but that. With their blinders...
19 hours ago19 hr 7 minutes ago, jojodancer said:Did you see how Mahomes looks without a good offensive line recently. That's really their main problem right now. No QB really looks good with a mediocre offensive line. Even Brady! All of that is exaggerated with everything having to be perfect for him to be considered great. It's a team game. He's made enough plays to get us 4 wins this year with a tough schedule and guys injured everywhere. Giants game and performanceis a one-off cuz of all the injuries and short week.Bad assessments in here being formed off of one bad game. Rest of games been solid. Again with terrible play calling and design and injuries on the line. And team altogether. Want to see what happens when all players are back and play calling improves as well. Barkley is having a terrible year statistically. Is he now a bad running back? Peeps here are delusional in their analysis and can't see the big picture IN WHAT HE IS! Helluva QB 1!!Barkley is a good point
19 hours ago19 hr 14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:Aside from the dead cap, at what point does it actually give us cap space regardless of what the dead cap charge is?Never, given his contract structure. Even if you cut him after the 2027 season, you have $65mm in dead money and a $47.1mm cap charge for 2028. If you post June 1 him, then you'll push some of that dead money into 2029. If he simply played out his contract, you have over $97mm in dead money in 2029 and he's not on the team.
19 hours ago19 hr Just now, jojodancer said:LOL. Just like TDS. It's a real thing. They can't talk about anything but that. With their blinders...I'd say it's the same the other way as well with the blinders. He can be good but we probably won't see that this year with KP.
19 hours ago19 hr 3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:LOL. Just like TDS. It's a real thing. They can't talk about anything but that. With their blinders...TDS is not a real thing unless you mean its the T that has the DS.
19 hours ago19 hr 1 minute ago, SkippyX said:TDS is not a real thing unless you mean its the T that has the DS.Every other word out of the FAKE NEWS media has the T word in it. This plan has failed. Officially.
19 hours ago19 hr Hurts' biggest issue has been the biggest issue since he came into the league. He doesn't see the field well or process information quickly. Last night we saw Rodgers buy time, keep his eyes down field, and eventually find guys open and get them the ball. 99% of the time when Hurts takes off, if he doesn't see someone break open immediately he just looks to run or throw it away. And in general, he's never been at his best when he has to go through his progressions. That doesn't mean he still can't be a good QB and win with those flaws, but they're flaws.I don't think the scheme is doing him any favors, but I'll say this. If Jalen Hurts didn't want them to run this, they wouldn't be. Do people really think that if Jalen Hurts went into Sirianni's office during the week and said "We can't win this way, we don't have anyone open" Sirianni would tell him "Tough toenails, suck it up." The notion is laughable. If Hurts wanted to run different stuff, the offense would have changed a long time ago.
19 hours ago19 hr 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I'd say it's the same the other way as well with the blinders. He can be good but we probably won't see that this year with KP.I don't disagree on KP. I saw enough in the last 2 Superbowl performances to form my opinion. Would you rather have regular season darlings like Josh Allen who can't play in the BIG GAME? Or Lamar Jackson? Same deal. Ultimately, that's how he needs to be judged. He's not a stats darling. Only in the Win department....
19 hours ago19 hr 41 minutes ago, vikas83 said:Just to round this out, if we traded Hurts this offseason, it's around $65mm in dead money as his 2026 guaranteed comp moves to the acquiring team.But no, we aren't trading the QB who took us to 2 Super Bowls in 3 years (and one won while playing well in both) to accommodate a bad OC. Hell, Lurie and Howie would fire Nick before moving off Jalen given the cost.How many players do we have to trade to get to the $200 million dead cap number? Howie needs a rebuilding challenge.
19 hours ago19 hr 8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:Never, given his contract structure. Even if you cut him after the 2027 season, you have $65mm in dead money and a $47.1mm cap charge for 2028. If you post June 1 him, then you'll push some of that dead money into 2029.If he simply played out his contract, you have over $97mm in dead money in 2029 and he's not on the team.Sorry, I was low on the dead money cutting him after 2027 because was only looking at the guaranteed portion of 2027. It's about 30mm higher.Basically, you're taking just under 100mm in dead money best case if he isn't extended.
19 hours ago19 hr Just now, jojodancer said:I don't disagree on KP. I saw enough in the last 2 Superbowl performances to form my opinion. Would you rather have regular season darlings like Josh Allen who can't play in the BIG GAME? Or Lamar Jackson? Same. Ultimately, that's how he needs to be judged. He's not a stats darling. Only in the Win department....I said on the previous page the Eagles are lucky to have him. But he is a car not everyone can drive and he needs someone to get the most out of him. I'd love nothing more than to see KP fired and Hurts to play better. I just don't see them doing that. SacktheQB has a really good post above that sums up my feelings better than I've been able to say them today. I'm still probably reacting to last night, but when you have a QB who can make fast decisions it brings out the best in really good WRs. They have some amazing talent on the Eagles and it's going to waste and KP and Hurts are both to blame in different ways.
19 hours ago19 hr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:Sorry, I was low on the dead money cutting him after 2027 because was only looking at the guaranteed portion of 2027. It's about 30mm higher.Basically, you're taking just under 100mm in dead money best case if he isn't extended.Vikas is so smart he's playing chess with himself on the forum and having good conversations.
19 hours ago19 hr Just now, Diehardfan said:Vikas is so smart he's playing chess with himself on the forum and having good conversations.Just wanted to correct the info!
19 hours ago19 hr 20 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:It’s uncanny how Hurts haters forget the dozens and dozens of plays he’s made that have won us games but remember the one or two bad plays he’s made. And they harp on those two plays for weeks.It really is a disorder.Hurts Derangement SyndromeH.D.S.He did miss a wide open Devonta Smith.
19 hours ago19 hr 14 minutes ago, jojodancer said:LOL. Just like TDS. It's a real thing. They can't talk about anything but that. With their blinders... Oh boy… cults gonna cult…
19 hours ago19 hr People are enamored with McKee. Story of Philadelphia and the backup QB. See Kevin Kolb, Bobby Hoying. Brad Goebel and go down the line. McKee with this offensive line and play calling/design would be even worse. And be sacked and knocked down into oblivion resulting in lost yardage & fumbles. Adding on the probability of throwing several more picks by forcing it. I do like him though as a prospect, in the tiny sample we have been given in preseason and against the lowly Giants thus far.
19 hours ago19 hr 2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:Hurts' biggest issue has been the biggest issue since he came into the league. He doesn't see the field well or process information quickly. Last night we saw Rodgers buy time, keep his eyes down field, and eventually find guys open and get them the ball. 99% of the time when Hurts takes off, if he doesn't see someone break open immediately he just looks to run or throw it away. And in general, he's never been at his best when he has to go through his progressions. That doesn't mean he still can't be a good QB and win with those flaws, but they're flaws.I don't think the scheme is doing him any favors, but I'll say this. If Jalen Hurts didn't want them to run this, they wouldn't be. Do people really think that if Jalen Hurts went into Sirianni's office during the week and said "We can't win this way, we don't have anyone open" Sirianni would tell him "Tough toenails, suck it up." The notion is laughable. If Hurts wanted to run different stuff, the offense would have changed a long time ago.Rodgers has 2 playoff wins in 8 years. Green Bay is not missing a beat without him.Maybe he's not the best role model if you want to win a Super Bowl.Cincy has the 31st ranked pass defense in yards per game.Rodgers big play was buying time and not throwing the ball decisively until the TE got open deep. Its what people yell about Hurts for.Rodgers had 139 yards passing vs NE but they kept fumbling the ball back to him. He is averaging 211 passing yards per game this year. He adds nothing in the run game.Pittsburgh has 4 wins on the way to 8 for the year.
19 hours ago19 hr 3 minutes ago, SkippyX said:Rodgers has 2 playoff wins in 8 years. Green Bay is not missing a beat without him.Maybe he's not the best role model if you want to win a Super Bowl.Cincy has the 31st ranked pass defense in yards per game.Rodgers big play was buying time and not throwing the ball decisively until the TE got open deep. Its what people yell about Hurts for.Rodgers had 139 yards passing vs NE but they kept fumbling the ball back to him. He is averaging 211 passing yards per game this year. He adds nothing in the run game.Pittsburgh has 4 wins on the way to 8 for the year.This has nothing to do with Rodgers vs Hurts. I was using last night as a specific example to highlight one QB who does a specific aspect of QBing well vs another QB(Hurts) who does not do that aspect of QBing well.
19 hours ago19 hr I mean, it's not likely we went from being a great running team to just a good running team. We went from a great running team to an AWFUL running team. Last year we were the #2 rushing offense at 179.3 yards per game. This year, we are #25 at 95.3 yards per game. A 47% drop in rushing yards per game, with the same back and 4/5 back on the line, is legitimately INSANE. The issues seem to be:The health of the offensive line. Dickerson is about 60% of himself, Jurgens about 70%. Steen is a better pass blocker than Becton, but he's not the same type of road grader. And Mailata and Johnson haven't been as good.Spags may have given people a blueprint -- shoot the gap from the pulling lineman and hit Barkley in the backfieldMore condensed formations are stacking the box Less QB run game -- one of Jalen's biggest positives is changing numbers in the run game, and KP seems to have abandoned thatUntil we fix the run game, we are going to struggle. Defenses have adapted and we are banged up. But running out of condensed formations because KP is obsessed with copying McVay is killing us -- because KP is no McVay.
19 hours ago19 hr 14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:Hurts' biggest issue has been the biggest issue since he came into the league. He doesn't see the field well or process information quickly. Last night we saw Rodgers buy time, keep his eyes down field, and eventually find guys open and get them the ball. 99% of the time when Hurts takes off, if he doesn't see someone break open immediately he just looks to run or throw it away. And in general, he's never been at his best when he has to go through his progressions. That doesn't mean he still can't be a good QB and win with those flaws, but they're flaws.I don't think the scheme is doing him any favors, but I'll say this. If Jalen Hurts didn't want them to run this, they wouldn't be. Do people really think that if Jalen Hurts went into Sirianni's office during the week and said "We can't win this way, we don't have anyone open" Sirianni would tell him "Tough toenails, suck it up." The notion is laughable. If Hurts wanted to run different stuff, the offense would have changed a long time ago.Don't disagree. But the guy has had a different offensive coordinator every year. No stability at all there. Might take a little while here to figure this out. That's if we ever get healthy on the O-line.
19 hours ago19 hr 2 hours ago, NOTW said:Now we have a QB who wins but that's not enoughNo, the issue is that the rest of the team isn't as elite, he's playing laughably bad for at least two quarters every week and we have been let off the hook by some very, very lucky bounces that have gone our way.
19 hours ago19 hr Just now, Sack that QB said:This has nothing to do with Rodgers vs Hurts. I was using last night as a specific example to highlight one QB who does a specific aspect of QBing well vs another QB(Hurts) who does not do that aspect of QBing well.And Rodgers does almost nothing well in 2025. He sucks.The only thing he did well last night is exactly what Hurts does well.I guess he puts up 50/50 balls to DK Metcalf and they usually pan out or its a pick?
19 hours ago19 hr 1 minute ago, Swoop said:No, the issue is that the rest of the team isn't as elite, he's playing laughably bad for at least two quarters every week and we have been let off the hook by some very, very lucky bounces that have gone our way.EOD , Jalen Hurts is one of the last issues on the team. Both lines are depleted with injuries or half injuries. We have lack of team maturity and discipline. Secondary is a**. Blankenship has regressed, while Makuba is raw. And going with guys like Adoree "Toast" Jackson is a Howie crime. OC is a**. Star WR is a malcontent and gives half effort on many plays. Jalen at least gives full effort. See the Hail Mary pass. This is a pretty dysfunctional bunch right now. Could put Roger Staubach in there and it won't solve anything.
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