1 minute ago, Cliftoma said:

F that! There are some real psychos out there who take sports way too seriously. And just straight boob morons.

Isiah doesnt deserve that, nobody does.

I’ll take snowballs at a Santa vs. this Midwest Skol trash any day

The Broncos entered the 4th Quarter with 0 points. I guess we can't talk as the Broncos came back on us as well but it wasn't this bad.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve seen enough of him as an edge this year, I know that.

I cant say I’ve noticed it much at all. I guess the snaps have been pretty forgettable. Some analytics post said he had a very high win % in 20 pass rush reps or so, but that’s a grain of salt.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t think he’s really being utilized in a way that could generate sacks, so I can’t hold that against him.

Hes missed too many tackles the last couple weeks, dean is an obvious upgrade against the run but campbell better in coverage.

2 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

F that! There are some real psychos out there who take sports way too seriously. And just straight boob morons.

Isiah doesnt deserve that, nobody does.

I thought folks from the Midwest were supposed to be nice unlike us heathens.

1 minute ago, KINGnabb said:

The Broncos entered the 4th Quarter with 0 points. I guess we can't talk as the Broncos came back on us as well but it wasn't this bad.

It’s actually worse than just that

• 1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

  This is more a general comment than an indictment of Vic vs. Huff…because I think that failure was multi-factorial, including personality conflicts. But I do think it is important to have some ability, as a coordinator, to harness one dimensional players. Your unit cannot be all probowlers and it better not be all well rounded JAGs either. Sometimes you need to integrate these unbalanced players who do one thing really well.

I think the personality clashes were an outcome of Huff being one dimensional. Huff felt undervalued, Fangio felt like how TF do you play in the NFL and can’t do anything against the run.

The strength of the Fangio scheme really is the back 7. The sim pressures, the match coverages. That naturally requires a more versatile edge.

It’s just a different philosophy than we’ve been conditioned to here in Philly. We think we need all-star edges to get a pass rush. Fangio would argue you could have the whole Pro Bowl edge group, if your coverage is bad, the QB will throw it before the pressure can get there.

In Huff’s case, the QB knows #0 is a chip away from being completely useless, and he can always check into a run to Huff’s side and gain 5 yards.

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Hes missed too many tackles the last couple weeks, dean is an obvious upgrade against the run but campbell better in coverage.

Did Byron Young play this week? He was getting rolled last week and it was really affecting the LBs.

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Did Byron Young play this week? He was getting rolled last week and it was really affecting the LBs.

He did, I remember him rolling around on the ground as he got pancaked on a big run in the 3rd quarter.

The eagles depth at DL is pretty weak

3 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Did Byron Young play this week? He was getting rolled last week and it was really affecting the LBs.

Yep. People were saying it was Baun's worst game. I said the more the DL underperforms, the more undue criticism the LBs will be getting.

Didnt Young get injured last week? I didnt think he was going to play today. But I dont remember the extent of his injury.

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Going well in Minnesota

But Eagles fans are the worst. Minnesotans are Midwest nice.

Is it really breaking news when someone sends vile messages to people on social media? It happens like billions of times per day to every famous person in the world. It sucks but it is what it is.

Something I just thought of, giving me some more hope with Hurts

They had the passing game come alive in the 2nd half of the rams game for the comeback win.

He started pretty good the next week, and then got concussed. I insist regardless of not being diagnosed. Things went south. He missed deep balls. He was off the mark, and/or late on his bread and butter short throws to AJ.

The following week he started pretty well again, but then started holding the ball longer, missed deep balls, and was off the mark on his bread and butter short stuff to AJ. I believe he wasnt fully recovered from the concussion, or re-rung his bell at some point in this one.

Today, coming off extended rest, he did not look concussed. Began opening up the passing game in the 2nd half (like in the Rams game) and did just enough to win once again. For the first time in weeks.

So, hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

Maybe this offense would by flying already if not for the uncalled late hit that injured him weeks ago. Maybe they are about to take off now, as long as he stays healthy.

Honeymoon period over with Rodgers in Minnesota. Eh! Maybe we can get him back. Ha. Along with Becton. At this point, you just know they would love to come back here if they could.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yep. People were saying it was Baun's worst game. I said the more the DL underperforms, the more undue criticism the LBs will be getting.

Didnt Young get injured last week? I didnt think he was going to play today. But I dont remember the extent of his injury.

Not sure - I figured having JC back in any capacity would at least be addition by subtraction.

Campbell is not an EDGE. We can bump him down to EDGE to make a 5 or 6 man front on occasion to mess up blocking schemes, but he's simply too small to be good at this.

I do think he's been very good in coverage, and disappointing as a run defender. He does not fully trust his eyes, which makes him a step slow. Wouldn't be as big of a deal with a better DL, but is a big deal. You could really see the difference in processing speed between him and Nakobe.

Penix has such a weak arm.

Why was Bijan out of the game for 3rd and 4th down and 1?

Just now, Outlaw said:

Penix has such a weak arm.

flacid

Just now, Outlaw said:

Penix has such a weak arm.

Reminds me of a bigger Tua. Maybe it’s cause he’s also left handed

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Why was Bijan out of the game for 3rd and 4th down and 1?

Patullo

Why does SF always seem to manage to have a good record even when theyre not that good?

Just now, RLC said:

Campbell is not an EDGE. We can bump him down to EDGE to make a 5 or 6 man front on occasion to mess up blocking schemes, but he's simply too small to be good at this.

I do think he's been very good in coverage, and disappointing as a run defender. He does not fully trust his eyes, which makes him a step slow. Wouldn't be as big of a deal with a better DL, but is a big deal. You could really see the difference in processing speed between him and Nakobe.

I think he’s doing A-OK. Nakobe is in his 4th year and has a fair amount of playing experience at this point. Campbell’s a rookie, who’s doing a lot right and has ceiling that I wish Dean had.

Thoughts on the game…

• Biggest takeaway from me? Hurts delivered on the deep ball. It’s his "fastball” as a passer. When he hits on those in high leverage moments, he’s the best can be. Was nice to see after a frustrating month.

• Patullo is still bad. Hoping we can land McDaniel as a "senior offensive assistant” after he gets fired.

• I want to see less Saquon for a bit. The iOL is a mess right now, the run calls are predictable. His huge workloads aren’t getting the team anywhere and wearing him down for no reason. Shipley and Bigsby are intriguing backs - use them to their strengths.

• Speaking of the iOL… I never want to see Toth play football again.

• Kickoff return is still terrible. Seems like we either have a bad return or a decent return called back from a penalty on every single one.

• Was great to see Dean playing again. Good run defender, great timing on his rushes, lots of fire on the field. Looked really good to me.

• Mukuba is a limited, massively high variance player. I don’t trust him at all in coverage before the receiver breaks. The lateral quickness isn’t there, and he’s gonna get Moss’d several times per season. People wrongly assume that because he played nickel in college that he was good at it. He really wasn’t. He and CB2 have been the biggest liabilities so far on defense, more than the pass rush.

• My biggest fear? Howie Golden Tates us again, this time for an edge.

57 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

One more thing...I don't think Campbell has been quite as good this year as an off ball LB as the hype would suggest. That's not to say he's been bad or even disappointing, but I'm not seeing anything precociously special to be perfectly honest.

Nakobe Dean was outstanding today and a huge boost for the defense. Given that he is the elder statesmen and immediately played so well, I think it's really hard to put him on the sidelines.

With the imminent and severe need at edge and how downhill explosive Campbell is, I just don't understand why they can't lean into him at edge.

Because he is not very good at edge. He is a LB. Vic gonna have to get creative.