9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’d rather trade Hunt than Smith. Garrett is a more natural fit for Hunts role and Smith was really, really good last year.

Smith is always injured though

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

My guess is when AJ does get traded next offseason that he will be looking for a new contrqct with the new team.

Definitely. That will be his leverage with new team in order to be acquired. He does not have that leverage here.

Howie should have thought about a 2 year Superbowl window going forward as elite contenders this past offseason. You either sign Becton/Rodgers (2 years deals with modest guarantees) or MW (2 yrs guaranteed). I would have been fine with either scenario. He got too draft pick happy. There's no reason to talk about any of this stuff, if he hit this past offseason. He's now in correct mode to become ELITE contenders.

Just a few days remaining of not having to talk about trades that have no chance of happening. Neither Brown nor Garrett are getting traded. People get themselves up into a lather and hear what they want to hear. Like 10 reporters have said the Browns are not trading Garrett.

Charles Robinson, a mid level reporter merely says "Howie really wants Garrett." Yeah, no crap, who doesn't want Myles Garrett? And now the Garrett talk has taken off and everyone just ignores the dozen reporters who've reported he's going nowhere.

Meanwhile, a bunch of reporters have said AJ Brown is going nowhere, but he posts on IG and it's "The Brown trade rumors are heating up!"

There are no trade rumors for either. This is all clickbait. Now because of these fake news Garrett rumors people are gonna get all excited and then get disappointed over a guy that was never coming here in the first place.

32 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

@vikas83 we saw Michael Carter give mo ey back to get out of the Jets. Is there anything AJ Brown can do to help the Eagles trade him?

I mean, I guess he could give up his 2026 guarantees, but no idea why he would do that and it wouldn't accomplish anything. That doesn't change the dead cap hit for the Eagles though -- that's based on cash already paid vs. cap charges taken to date.

23 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He didn't give money back. He just waived a guarantee if he were to be seriously injured.

Oh so it didnt help the Jets in any way, just helped the eagles pay him less?

17 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

There is no one on the Patriots roster that would be worth this trade with the exception of Gonzalez and Maye.

Picks and Gonzalez is fine with me. Not that I am in favor of trading him, but hypothetically speaking.

Obviously its impossible to do, financially, for the eagles.

But I wondered if there is some way AJ can help the eagles swallow that pill if he wants out badly enough.

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I mean, I guess he could give up his 2026 guarantees, but no idea why he would do that and it wouldn't accomplish anything. That doesn't change the dead cap hit for the Eagles though -- that's based on cash already paid vs. cap charges taken to date.

Thats what I was wondering. Obviously not giving up money for no reason. But if there was something he could give up to make it easier for the eagles to swallow the pill if he wants out badly enough.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Just a few days remaining of not having to talk about trades that have no chance of happening. Neither Brown nor Garrett are getting traded. People get themselves up into a lather and hear what they want to hear. Like 10 reporters have said the Browns are not trading Garrett.

Charles Robinson, a mid level reporter merely says "Howie really wants Garrett." Yeah, no crap, who doesn't want Myles Garrett? And now the Garrett talk has taken off and everyone just ignores the dozen reporters who've reported he's going nowhere.

Meanwhile, a bunch of reporters have said AJ Brown is going nowhere, but he posts on IG and it's "The Brown trade rumors are heating up!"

There are no trade rumors for either. This is all clickbait. Now because of these fake news Garrett rumors people are gonna get all excited and then get disappointed over a guy that was never coLet ming here in the first place.

Let me guess, you are a boomer who yells at kids to get off of your lawn and/or someone who gets zero enjoyment out of life. Do us all a favor and just STFU.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Oh so it didnt help the Jets in any way, just helped the eagles pay him less?

It just removed liability from the Eagles. Makes the trade less risky and more palatable.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

It just removed liability from the Eagles. Makes the trade less risky and more palatable.

Ok. So in that case, Carter wanted out so badly, he gave up money. Whether it benefitted one team or the other, he took less to get out of there. So what Im asking is, if there is anything AJ can do to help his way out of here. Obviously though it would need to benefit the eagles lessening some of that dead cap charge.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

These things are like Jason. They never die. 

The relationship was so great, Vrabel let him go to Philly while he was his coach in tenn

1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

Howie is a magician, but what I'm saying is that if we take on Garrett's salary, we will then have to find ways to pay all of the following within the next 2, max of 3 years...Carter, N. Smith, J. Davis, J. Hunt, DeJean, and Mitchell. And then there's guys like Ojomo, Dean, and Steen, etc. And that's not even considering what we'd have to do with guys' contracts that we already have like Hurts, Brown, Smith, etc, etc.

The dark days I'm referring to are when we will be forced to shed players...can't pay them all!

Garrett's cap hits for the Eagles are very manageable through 2028, and you'd cut him after that year and take $52mm of dead money in 2029. 2029 is when we are tanking and have a crapload of dead money that will hit (Hurts if not extended being the massive one at over $90mm).

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Howie should have thought about a 2 year Superbowl window going forward as elite contenders this past offseason. You either sign Becton/Rodgers or MW. I would have been fine with either scenario. He got too draft pick happy. There's no reason to talk about any of this stuff, if he hit this past offseason. He's now in correct mode to become ELITE contenders.

Becton or Rodgers make zero difference to our season so far, Rodgers has had a decent start in Minnesota but outside 2 picks in one game he's been a workaday corner not Champ Bailey, Becton has been dinged up in San Fran and our problem wasn't Steen replacing Becton it was Dickerson and Jurgens being badly dinged up, if anything all else being equal Becton being here and dinged up makes us worse. Ojomo's stats are basically the same as Williams were at this stage last year, like the Patriots you've overvalued Milton.

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Oh so it didnt help the Jets in any way, just helped the eagles pay him less?

It reduced the risk for the Eagles -- if he gets hurt, we can still cut him before next season and just pay the ~$1.384mm of gteed money. Under his prior contract, if he got hurt and couldn't pass a physical, he'd have been a $5mm cap hit to cut this offseason, but now that risk is gone.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ok. So in that case, Carter wanted out so badly, he gave up money. Whether it benefitted one team or the other, he took less to get out of there. So what Im asking is, if there is anything AJ can do to help his way out of here. Obviously though it would need to benefit the eagles lessening some of that dead cap charge.

There is no way to reduce the cap charge to the Eagles. And Carter did not reduce the cap charge to the Jets. He simply reduced the risk to the Eagles of him getting hurt and being owed an extra $4.016mm to cut this offseason.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ok. So in that case, Carter wanted out so badly, he gave up money. Whether it benefitted one team or the other, he took less to get out of there. So what Im asking is, if there is anything AJ can do to help his way out of here. Obviously though it would need to benefit the eagles lessening some of that dead cap charge.

It's not giving up money or taking less. He gave up a guarantee for injury only. He only would have collected the money if he missed all of next year from an injury sustained this year.

In regards to AJ, there isn't anything realistic that could be done. He could return all his bonus money but that's never going to happen.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's not giving up money or taking less. He gave up a guarantee for injury only. He only would have collected the money if he missed all of next year from an injury sustained this year.

In regards to AJ, there isn't anything realistic that could be done. He could return all his bonus money but that's never going to happen.

If AJ returned all of his bonus money, and agreed to a new contract with bonuses from his next team? That helps the eagles financially, and he still gets out of here and paid. Right?

12 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Is the gas station the new airport sighting? 🤔

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If AJ returned all of his bonus money, and agreed to a new contract with bonuses from his next team? That helps the eagles financially, and he still gets out of here and paid. Right?

Yeah, but in the world where AJ Brown voluntarily writes a $25mm check to the Eagles, I will have a growth spurt at 46, be 6'3", and sign to play WR for the Eagles.

Honestly, I'm not sure if he can actually give money already paid back to facilitate a trade. No clue if the rules allow it since there is no chance of it ever happening.

8 hours ago, mattwill said:

Why would the Browns ask for the three 1st Round picks rather than Smith, Mitchell and Campbell? Or alternatively Carter, Mitchell and Campbell? That would take the uncertainty out of the trade for them.

And that's why the Eagles wouldn't do it. The post was about the last three end of the first round draft picks to show how much three first round picks can actually be in realized cost. The Browns can ask. That doesn't mean they are getting. There's almost no chance ANY team gives up that much for him, especially given the contract. Just a bunch of folks putting something out there because they feel they need to post something on it.

The NFL trade deadline has never been the flurry of activity of the other major sports. I don't even know when the deadline is.... unlike the other sports.

10 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Becton or Rodgers make zero difference to our season so far, Rodgers has had a decent start in Minnesota but outside 2 picks in one game he's been a workaday corner not Champ Bailey, Becton has been dinged up in San Fran and our problem wasn't Steen replacing Becton it was Dickerson and Jurgens being badly dinged up, if anything all else being equal Becton being here and dinged up makes us worse. Ojomo's stats are basically the same as Williams were at this stage last year, like the Patriots you've overvalued Milton.

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Garrett's cap hits for the Eagles are very manageable through 2028, and you'd cut him after that year and take $52mm of dead money in 2029. 2029 is when we are tanking and have a crapload of dead money that will hit (Hurts if not extended being the massive one at over $90mm).

Where does the dead money come after 2028? As I read it very little of his 2029 and 2030 money is guaranteed, even his option trigger in 2028 only guarantees a fraction of his ridiculous base salary for '29 OTC reckons he can be cut for about $5mill in the '28-'29 offseason.

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah, but in the world where AJ Brown voluntarily writes a $25mm check to the Eagles, I will have a growth spurt at 46, be 6'3", and sign to play WR for the Eagles.

Honestly, I'm not sure if he can actually give money already paid back to facilitate a trade. No clue if the rules allow it since there is no chance of it ever happening.

He would have to want out of here badly. Which, it seems like he does. And he knows he can get paid elsewhere so I dont think he would be afraid to write that check.

Im just thinking why, when you say its impossible because of the dead cap charge, and rationality agrees- then why wont the rumors go away? If there is actual smoke, there has to be something sort of outside the box being discussed.

What Michael Carter did got me thinking if something similar could happen where AJ basically pays to get himself out of here.