5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Somewhat negative post incoming...and I really hope to be proven wrong on the second part (which I have posted on twice but no one really engaged...curious what my long time disagreeing counterpart @just relax thinks...)

1. The good part. The defense has earned our trust and then some, specifically with regards to the slow starting pass rush and CB2. They went from a first half abomination to a second half shutout. Between Vic and Howie, they'll lock down CB2 one way or another. And those edge rushers will look a lot better with their newest addition and Carter in the middle. No concern there.

2. The bad part. I really think they have backed themselves into a corner from which there is no realistic escape with the downgrade from Becton and Dickerson to Steen and a diminished/absent Dickerson. This will completely prevent them from running the offense the way it was designed. It's going to bring Barkley's production and threat to a human level. It will prevent them from comfortably adhering to their 140 yards passing, 20 passes, 1-2 weekly deep shots, underneath the sticks passing offense. In that role, Hurts is a consistent revelation that torments defenses. When you push past that and throw more often with deeper routes (excluding the occasional deep rainbow), the wheels come off. And this interior OL is going to force Siri, Hurts, and the overall offensive design into departing from their championship blueprint....or it's just going to congest the offense if they stick to it and Barkley can't produce at an MVP level without eye popping yards before contact stats.

We know this is who they are...obviously Howie knows it better than we do. What's going on with Dickerson was unavoidable, but it became a 2-hit problem when they didn't commit even modest resources into keeping Becton around.

It's interesting you're optimistic about CB2 which is the weakest spot on the entire roster, while most concerned about the O line (which is valid btw). I think both are concerning. Dickerson's injuries are a concern but he's battled through before and played well. They've drafted some linemen to develop under Stoutland and he can coach up backups. I think a lot of us agreed in the offseason about wanting more O line depth, but with strong starters and star skill players it's hard to have such quality at every position. You typically want versatile backups like a guy who can play Guard or Center and a Tackle that can play either side as needed. It will be a challenge as Cam and Landon both had injuries end of last year, to make sure they condition and rest during the week appropriately to be ready to go. I wonder if Dickerson came back too early, should he have not played in week 1?

CB2 is something that if they don't add someone significant, it's just a weakness that the other areas of defense (and good coaching) are going to have to cover for.

2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Good defense and OL play, that’s my kind of boring.

Once they find out the forward pass is legal…watch out. National Championship contenders every year.

I finally finished the day-after pod and Duffy was quite a bit more optimistic about Adoree Jackson’s performance. He wasn’t gushing by any means, but he thought the C grade Adoree gave himself was accurate.

🤣

4 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I think I’ll watch Iowa v Iowa State, a) it’s at noon b) rivalry game c) bunch of guys I’m interested in draft-wise. Maybe Texas v SJst for some Arch Manning drama.

I did notice that game. Might be OK. Arizona St and Mississippi St might be a good game.

Not surprising but was never going to happen

I don't want to get into a huge McNabb debate. You know I am an expert on his many flaws.

What did he do to have his number retired besides play a longish time (though still getting hurt a bunch) on some very good teams?

I get the 15 second play vs Dallas and 4th and 26, and carrying the team in 2000, but really, someone explain it to me.

Ring of Honor? 100%

No one else ever gets to wear 5? meh

He just always felt more Danny White than Roger Staubach to me.

6 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Those games are 100% necessary for the small schools to continue to have programs. The money they bring in the be used as a scrimmage is ridiculous.

I get it. They pay to get their a$$ kicked. Sucks for us fans that want to see the best and most competitive games, especially the top ranked schools.

28 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I said it recently about retired jersey numbers, it should be rare like a Mount Rushmore. The Eagles have too many.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/

Yep. Not to mention 12, 25, 55, and 91 are basically retired.

By the way I was kind of half watching the game last night and missed parts of it. I just looked at the box score and it's so nice to know that Andy learned his lesson from the SB and ran the ball last night, especially when Worthy went out on the first play. 5 carries for Pacheco and 5 carries for Hunt is laughable. You can be both great and overrated at the same time and that is Reid.

44 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Perhaps it would be honoring the legacy jersey player if the 1st Round pick each year chooses one of the retired numbers to wear. Retzlaff’s 44 and Brookshier’s 40 and Wistert’s 70 would be logical honorees. Picking players who are no longer alive to be honored in this way could avoid the kind of LT vs. Abdul Carter kerfuffel that happened earlier this year.

#5 - Donovan McNabb

#15 - Steve Van Buren

#20 - Brian Dawkins

#40 - Tom Brookshier

#44 - Pete Retzlaff

#60 - Chuck Bednarik

#70 - Al Wistert

#92 - Reggie White

#99 - Jerome Brown

That is actually a great idea.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

By the way I was kind of half watching the game last night and missed parts of it. I just looked at the box score and it's so nice to know that Andy learned his lesson from the SB and ran the ball last night, especially when Worthy went out on the first play. 5 carries for Pacheco and 5 carries for Hunt is laughable. You can be both great and overrated at the same time and that is Reid.

Kareem Hunt getting so much playing time in 2025 is just roster management negligence. It’s such an easy position to get juice/production. He’s a walking 3-yard carry.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Kareem Hunt getting so much playing time in 2025 is just roster management negligence. It’s such an easy position to get juice/production. He’s a walking 3-yard carry.

Yeah and there's that. All I've heard all off-season is how Pacheco being fully healthy and having a legit running game back will help the Chiefs offense this year. Not sure how the snaps work but him splitting 10 carries with Kareem Hunt is just flat out bad coaching, especially when the better guys averages 5 YPC and the bum only gets 3.2

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

Mahomes is a fake tough guy. He's like Ashley Cole was in football over here. Always the one yapping away at other players, but from the safety of being behind bigger men. He has correctly realised he is the golden child of the NFL, so can get away with it. It's a testament to how well D players are coached that no one has left a reducer on him.

Give it time. He's going to get blown up. This particular play, which wasn't even him pushing for a first down, but just being a jerk... this gives the defensive players more license, imo.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

I said that before the SB. Lay him out and take the 15.

I think taking it in the regular season really sends the message much better. Especially because he could get lit up week after week after week. Eventually, he'll stop and start looking for a soft place to lay down.

My ideal/hope for the Chiefs:

• They have SB hangover year. They'll make the playoffs but lose and not make the AFCCG. Teams follow the blueprint against them. Andy stays arrogant doing the same old and they regress.

• Travis Kelce retires and they're left without their top receiver.

• Reid retires, and his replacement may be adequate but they regress.

• Without Kelce and Reid, Mahomes (still a great QB) gets taken down a peg and gets frustrated without enough help around him. They regress and he never sees a Super Bowl appearance again.

1 hour ago, Joe Ball said:

If you’re a top drafted athlete and you took say 1 mill and invested it from your first contract in a halfway decent set of ETFs, you’re set for retirement. 21-22 years old, 30 years later and you’re 51-52 and have anywhere from 8-14 mil without funding a friends start up or other high risk investment, like a club, restaurant, or record label.

The issue these guys have is they try to take care of their entourage and spend way more than necessary to show status. I get trying to help people, especially family, to greener pastures, and a better life. Too many guys get taken advantage of financially.

The spending to show status is the biggest issue. Taking care of some friends a little is nice. Taking care of family is respectful. But, when taking care, you don't have to buy the biggest and the fanciest of everything. Just buy a 'nice' home, and a 'nice' car. And then, get hooked in with a REPUTABLE investment advisor. Hell, even buying some Vanguard ETFs for retirement by year whatever would return plenty without fear of the manager robbing you blind, because you are your own manager.

It shouldn't be so complicated for these kids, but most of them think that the next big contract is right around the corner... not thinking that this contract might be the ONLY contract and they need to be smart with the money, because tomorrow is never guaranteed in the NFL.

59 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Add 17 to that list. Harold Carmichael, NFL man of the year, late 70s or early 80s. He was a dude.

But that number has been given out. The ones @mattwill listed are officially retired. Nakobe Dean, ironically, a really short LB wears 17.

19 minutes ago, NOTW said:

🤣

This has gone so viral...my wife this morning asked if I had heard about it...I hope this lady makes a public apology. Wife was also telling me about some CEO that was at a US Open tennis match and a young kid was about to get a cap from a player and the man reached over the kid to take the cap, handed it to his wife/other and she stashed it in her bag...people started giving bad reviews for his company online. He ended up apologizing after it went viral. Some adults are just horrible people.

48 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You could whittle that list down to 15, 20, 60, and 92.

That's the exact list I offered a couple days ago.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

But that number has been given out. The ones @mattwill listed are officially retired. Nakobe Dean, ironically, a really short LB wears 17.

Yeh, I was meaning to say he deserves to have his number retired. NFL HOF'er, All 70's decade team. He still leads the team in receptions and yards right? IDK, maybe I am wrong.

47 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Yeh I meant he should be, from everything I’ve ever read about him he is just a great human being as well as having been a great ball player. Loved watching him play DAL as a kid.

He's a great dude and has been a part of the organization as a community ambassador for a while. Years ago my wife worked at the Camden Childrens Garden, right next to the Camden Aquarium. The Eagles Youth Partnership built a Butterfly House and sponsored it for Camden kids to be able to come in for free to visit it. Anyway, they had sent Harold Carmichael over before. He met with my wife who was working as the Garden's event coordinator at the time. He was so humble and polite, she didn't know he was a former player. She told me that she met with a guy that had such a nice Eagles' polo shirt that he had to work with the team. I asked her what his name was, and she couldn't remember... but she described him to me. I asked if he might have been named Harold. She thought so, and when I pulled up a picture... she recognized him immediately. She was stunned because to her, he could have been just any body with the way he carried himself. She didn't know that he was a legendary figure of the NFL.

38 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I did notice that game. Might be OK. Arizona St and Mississippi St might be a good game.

MIchigan vs. Oklahoma at 7:30 EDT as well.

Chiefs take a step back this year. But come back stronger next year with Worthy, Rice and new high draft pick Tight End & Top Tackle and they are back in business. They will never be that far away with Mahomes. Although I've always said in here, he's been a little overrated the last 3 years with having a Top notch championship defense and hall of fame defensive coordinator in Spags. Should have never traded Tyreek. I will die on that Hill. Pun intended.

12 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Yeh, I was meaning to say he deserves to have his number retired. NFL HOF'er, All 70's decade team. He still leads the team in receptions and yards right? IDK, maybe I am wrong.

Years ago, I'd have said so. Now, he'd just miss the cut as I've paired it down to 15, 20, 60 and 92.