14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Really good play by Dejean, Nolan and Baun. Dejean obviously killed his guy at the snap, but Nolan bumped his guy to help Baun, and Baun kept depth long enough so Mahomes couldn't touch throw it over the top to Kelce (who had beaten Adoree on the crosser). These guys are in sync.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why is Howie cheering? If Bryce hits the threshold then Jacksonville gets a 4th instead of a 5th.

I wonder if one day the nfl does reviews like college football does with targeting. Cause some of these roughing calls, the QBs are doing a good sell job

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Why is Howie cheering? If Bryce hits the threshold then Jacksonville gets a 4th instead of a 5th.

What his response was to that question

8 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Mukuba had some huge plays. I'm curious to hear from Fangio if he cleaned up the negative plays too. I don't remember anything egregious but that's not something you necessarily notice on first watch. Loving what I'm seeing from our 1st/2nd picks for now. Both look physical as hell.

He had one really bad drive whwre he gave up a Kelce catch and gain on 4th down, then a penalty followed by getting trucked by Mahomes. Outside of that he was good but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the safeties blew some coverage on that long TD at the end of the game.

The Bengals are stuck in a nasty Groundhog Day movie.

17 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

There is a weird fixation that the shove goes and all will be ok with the world. As you say, it won't stop the sneak or materially change the fact this team is very good at short yardage runs. The complaining will move to QB sneaks being unfair.

The real lesson is the officials penalising the Eagles by allowing teams to line up offsides on short yardage plays, where perhaps they don't for other teams. Why are the Eagles being discriminated against? We can all play that game.

We seriously need someone to come down the LOS and Dwight Schrute it for us, so no one is offsides:

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Mukuba had some huge plays. I'm curious to hear from Fangio if he cleaned up the negative plays too. I don't remember anything egregious but that's not something you necessarily notice on first watch. Loving what I'm seeing from our 1st/2nd picks for now. Both look physical as hell.

If he had chopped down Mahomes short of the sticks, which would've been an excellent play as he's probably giving up 30lbs, that would have been one less negative.

I think he had a defensive holding that negated a sack, when he got turned by/tied up with a receiver - rookie mistake.

And he got big boyed by the Kelce, but so did Dejean - Travis isn't an all-pro but he has his moments.

The good way outshined the bad, but Vic has material to work with and teaching to do.

26 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

DeJean had 2 snaps on offense?

Victory formation.

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Looks like an AI glitch. Where did he even go? He disappeared off the screen.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The Bengals are stuck in a nasty Groundhog Day movie.

This meme is still relevant. Realistically chase is an awesome wr. Maybe the best in the league. However their oline has been the issue for years. It seemingly is one of the bottom half every year and he has gotten hurt and missed significant time in 3 of his 6 years.

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

McKee for Hendrickson or...two 1st rounders!!! :)

8 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

It's been that way since they started it. Refs just don't call offsides. Likely to help stop the play

5 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Hurts has said before that it's his offense and the plays are the way he wants it

I doubt that has changed just because they got a new OC

5 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

@Sack that QB fair point

This is the Sirianni and Hurts offense, not Patullo. If the offense sucks all year, that’s far more on Sirianni than Patullo. But people won’t blame Sirianni because they like him. There’s a reason when Moore was hired last year they ran next to none of the stuff he used to run with the Chargers or Cowboys. Every coordinator the Eagles hire will be running a scheme they feel is tailor made for Jalen Hurts… what he likes to run. This is the Nick Sirianni offense.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This meme is still relevant. Realistically chase is an awesome wr. Maybe the best in the league. However their oline has been the issue for years. It seemingly is one of the bottom half every year and he has gotten hurt and missed significant time in 3 of his 6 years.

It's like Luck

Team gets this great QB but ignores the Oline

2 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

McKee for Hendrickson or...two 1st rounders!!! :)

Lol.

If uche and smith continue to play like they have we really don’t need Hendrickson. We could use a better backup TE and no. 2 corner

21 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Suggesting that Patullo should have been able to step in to this role with no adjustment period is crazy.

He needs time. There are definitely issues, but I think he will get better. Brian Johnson was an idiot, KP is not.

Brian Johnson's downfall was as a former QB coach, that he was trying to complete what he started which was making Jalen into a high volume passer. Steichen and Moore went through similar phases where they tried to open up the passing offense, but inevitably worked back to the conclusion that Hurt's is a hybrid player that needs to be used in a specific way in order to be effective. Now Patullo isn't falling into the Brian Johnson trap, but he's trying to come up with a scheme where it's a run first offense, with just enough passing to support the rush whilst also conserving Jalen's health by eliminating his called runs. That's a real tight rope - but at least this defense will give him a couple weeks to experiment.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This is the Sirianni and Hurts offense, not Patullo. If the offense sucks all year, that’s far more on Sirianni than Patullo. But people won’t blame Sirianni because they like him. There’s a reason when Moore was hired last year they ran next to none of the stuff he used to run with the Chargers or Cowboys. Every coordinator the Eagles hire will be running a scheme they feel is tailor made for Jalen Hurts… what he likes to run. This is the Nick Sirianni offense.

Its the sche.e Hurts insists on. Siri isn't running this stuff from. His INDY days either. Hurts handcuffs every offensive coach.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It's been that way since they started it. Refs just don't call offsides. Likely to help stop the play

Hurts has said before that it's his offense and the plays are the way he wants it

I doubt that has changed just because they got a new OC

I find it hard to believe hurts exclusively is the one who’s calling for condensed formations, meant to take advantage of athletic mismatches and not running any clearing patterns or rubs. All 22 is going to tell a lot, but it seems like forget there’s more field than the 2/3’s of the field on the short side in those formations.

8 hours ago, mattwill said:

Some posters in here were trashing Hurts. You have always been a Hurts supporter … strong supporter. With that said, if neither Hurts nor Patullo are to blame, what is the cause for the Offensive hiccups?

Sirianni and Hurts but not Hurts in the way you think. Not Hurts for his play, but Hurts because he has tremendous say in the offensive scheme, this has been widely reported. Basically this is how the offense works. The scheme is Sirianni’s, which is a framework of what Jalen Hurts wants to run. The coordinator sprinkles in a tiny bit of their flavor, but not much. And they call the plays of that offense Sirianni and Hurts have designed.

So if it’s a scheme issue, then it’s on Sirianni and Hurts. If it’s an issue with the situational play call then it’s Patullo. To me it seems obvious it’s a scheme issue far more than the situational play call.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

It's like Luck

Team gets this great QB but ignores the Oline

I felt last year at some point in the next 3-5 years burrow was going to ask to be traded due to poor ownership and inability to build a good enough OL. IMO OL stems from poor development of prospects as well as allocating money to different guys over the years that haven’t exactly played up to their contract.

I loved Sewell and chase in that draft. However i would’ve went Sewell over chase as LT over WR. Heck i wanted the eagles if they stayed at 6 to take Sewell. As well as burrow was coming off his injury and I would’ve wanted to protect him at all cost cause he is the franchise for them.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This is the Sirianni and Hurts offense, not Patullo. If the offense sucks all year, that’s far more on Sirianni than Patullo. But people won’t blame Sirianni because they like him. There’s a reason when Moore was hired last year they ran next to none of the stuff he used to run with the Chargers or Cowboys. Every coordinator the Eagles hire will be running a scheme they feel is tailor made for Jalen Hurts… what he likes to run. This is the Nick Sirianni offense.

It was after the Super Bowl, all the good candidates were gone. There's no way they go with this plan if they weren't winning the Super Bowl.

Sirianni's offensive schemes are tailored towards Jalen now, but the prototype is Phillip Rivers. He's an average offensive mind and can't create NFL level offensive schemes for a QB that doesn't do a good job with NFL level fundamentals, that has such an alternate playstyle. Look at the tree he came from, it's all designed for traditional QB play. It's fine to have an average offensive mind if it involves trying to scheme for something common, but when you're trying to do something very new, it's a lot harder.