1 hour ago1 hr 2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:OCs don't have the impact on the offense fans think they do. Not with the Eagles current setup. On other teams they might.I think there's a lot of little things that impact the team. The team playing in these condensed formations when that negatively impacts spacing in 2 high safety looks is one of the issues. The lack of WR runs. We have an elite back. How many times have we seen them run a screen or a wheel route.
1 hour ago1 hr 2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:I'm on my 25th wedding anniversary trip with the wife this weekend. We have already planned for how I will be watching each of these.10/4 Phillies game will be Sunday morning off the DVR, and a warmup to the Eagles game.10/5 Eagles game will be watched live.10/6 Phillies game will be watched Tuesday morning off the DVR before we check out of the hotel.I'd like to watch the Phillies live, but the wife gets priority this weekend. Besides, we have some cool things lined up those nights. The DVR was invented for a reason!Congrats!
1 hour ago1 hr 2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:I'm on my 25th wedding anniversary trip with the wife this weekend. We have already planned for how I will be watching each of these.10/4 Phillies game will be Sunday morning off the DVR, and a warmup to the Eagles game.10/5 Eagles game will be watched live.10/6 Phillies game will be watched Tuesday morning off the DVR before we check out of the hotel.I'd like to watch the Phillies live, but the wife gets priority this weekend. Besides, we have some cool things lined up those nights. The DVR was invented for a reason!Don't forget the Sixers have a preseason game against the Knicks on 10/4. That's the one you should be watching
59 minutes ago59 min 14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:OCs don't have the impact on the offense fans think they do. Not with the Eagles current setup. On other teams they might.I'm open to being wrong. How so?
54 minutes ago54 min 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I'm open to being wrong. How so?Because it's not Patullo's offense. This isn't a situation like when Kyle Shanahan was in Atlanta that it was entirely his offense and scheme for example with a defensive head coach.People made this mistake in 2023 blaming everything on Brian Johnson. It was stupid then, and subsequently proven wrong, and it's stupid now. I'm not saying he has zero culpability, but it's absurd that everyone is blaming Kevin Fing Patullo for the offensive problem. Just ridiculous. It's because people don't want to accept that there are deeper issues at play here and more issues at play. Just blaming one guy is easy.
52 minutes ago52 min 1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:Because it's not Patullo's offense. This isn't a situation like when Kyle Shanahan was in Atlanta that it was entirely his offense and scheme for example with a defensive head coach.People made this mistake in 2023 blaming everything on Brian Johnson. It was stupid then, and subsequently proven wrong, and it's stupid now. I'm not saying he has zero culpability, but it's absurd that everyone is blaming Kevin Fing Patullo for the offensive problem. Just ridiculous. It's because people don't want to accept that there are deeper issues at play here and more issues at play. Just blaming one guy is easy.Well, if it's not his offense then he should have the keys to the car that just won a SB. He's not calling the right plays then, right? Who is to blame otherwise? To me at least it looked completely different when Hurts was calling the plays at the line vs the Rams.
47 minutes ago47 min 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:Well, if it's not his offense then he should have the keys to the car that just won a SB. He's not calling the right plays then, right?I don't think their playbook is designed like it should be to get guys open and produce big plays. That's on Sirianni and Hurts. Do you think the playbook is loaded with all kinds of McVay or Kevin O'Connell esque schemed plays and Kevin Patullo is just ignoring them every Sunday to have his running back run into a stacked box or just have run curl routes into tight coverage? Or do you think the playbook Patullo is calling plays from sucks? I'd bet everything I have it's the latter.The question is why does the playbook suck so much. And I wish I had the answer. I can speculate, but I don't know.
46 minutes ago46 min Just now, Sack that QB said:I don't think their playbook is designed like it should be to get guys open and produce big plays. That's on Sirianni and Hurts. Do you think the playbook is loaded with all kinds of McVay or Kevin O'Connell esque schemed plays and Kevin Patullo is just ignoring them every Sunday to have his running back run into a stacked box or just have run curl routes into tight coverage? Or do you think the playbook Patullo is calling plays from sucks? I'd bet everything I have it's the latter.The question is why does the playbook suck so much. And I wish I had the answer. I can speculate, but I don't know.That I 1k percent agree on. They aren't designing plays to get Brown open and it's a crime.
42 minutes ago42 min 59 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:Enough about AJ, lets talk about something fresh and newHe's right. I mean, technically speaking, there are obviously safer ones, like kneel downs and spikes, but it's probably on par with something like PATs. Not totally safe, but not egregiously dangerous like punt returns or a hospital ball thrown high down the seam.
40 minutes ago40 min 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:He's right. I mean, technically speaking, there are obviously safer ones, like kneel downs and spikes, but it's probably on par with something like PATs. Not totally safe, but not egregiously dangerous like punt returns or a hospital ball thrown high down the seam.Man, when the bounty gate guy is talking player safety, you know it's serious.Side note -- Payton is a laughably overrated head coach. Basically a less successful Mike McCarthy.
38 minutes ago38 min 33 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:OCs don't have the impact on the offense fans think they do.Edgy take, but yes they absolutely do. Offensive scheme and play design is almost an order of magnitude more complex than its counterpart on defense. To say that the guy literally in charge of designing, installing, and calling an offense has minimal impact is kind of crazy to be honest.
36 minutes ago36 min 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:He's right. I mean, technically speaking, there are obviously safer ones, like kneel downs and spikes, but it's probably on par with something like PATs. Not totally safe, but not egregiously dangerous like punt returns or a hospital ball thrown high down the seam.
33 minutes ago33 min 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:Edgy take, but yes they absolutely do. Offensive scheme and play design is almost an order of magnitude more complex than its counterpart on defense. To say that the guy literally in charge of designing, installing, and calling an offense has minimal impact is kind of crazy to be honest.You cut off the part of the post that provides the most important context to that statement. Not with the Eagles current setup. Patullo doesn't design and install the offense, it's collaborative, but mostly Sirianni. Do you really think the Eagles have had a brand new playbook every season for the last 4 years? Their playbook is largely the same every year. It's the Sirianni playbook, an offense designed by Sirianni to best suit Jalen Hurts with some flare, inputs, and wrinkles added in by the OC and the QB coach. Any everything they want to do during the week and in-game is signed off on by Nick Sirianni.
31 minutes ago31 min Stat of the day: Team Average Passing Yards per game as September Preseason has evolved.2018 237.82019 235.02020 240.2 (Last 16 game schedule)2021 228.32022 218.52023 218.92024 217.62025 207.8The run game is a simple position of RB runner combined with the man shoves man techniques of the run game. It requires less practice and rehearsal than the passing game.The running yards have not changed much, fluctuating between about 115 to 118 on average per game 2020-present
31 minutes ago31 min 4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:Man, when the bounty gate guy is talking player safety, you know it's serious.Side note -- Payton is a laughably overrated head coach. Basically a less successful Mike McCarthy.you must be forgetting his time here and how well he helped mold bobby hoying into the hof'er that he is.
31 minutes ago31 min 5 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:Nix reminds me of dumber Wentz. He will hold on to the ball and look for the big play instead of an open check down. He will throw late into coverage and had a miserable INT in the end zone last night.I think if we can contain the running game we will force Nix into an INT or two. He already has 4 INT this yearHe’s very prone to 2 or 3 Bover throws a game too.
30 minutes ago30 min 4 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:This tackle by Jihaad is a thing of beautyHe might not rack up the flash needed, but he’s DROTY so far.
29 minutes ago29 min Just now, Sack that QB said:You cut off the part of the post that provides the most important context to that statement. Not with the Eagles current setup. Patullo doesn't design and install the offense, it's collaborative, but mostly Sirianni. Do you really think the Eagles have had a brand new playbook every season for the last 4 years? Their playbook is largely the same every year. It's the Sirianni playbook, an offense designed by Sirianni to best suit Jalen Hurts with some flare, inputs, and wrinkles added in by the OC and the QB coach.The counterpoint would be that we've seen this offense excel (2022 and parts of 2024) with certain play callers (Steichen and Moore) and struggle with others. If the playbook was all crap and the play caller were irrelevant, then we wouldn't see a wide variety in outcomes like this. The drastic improvement when Nick handed over play calling in 2021 is evidence of this.Even if you think the OC has no input on the play book and design (which I don't think is correct as things have evolved since 2021), the play caller has clearly had an impact.To be fair, I think the line play is the biggest issue so far this year.
26 minutes ago26 min Just now, Sack that QB said:Not with the Eagles current setup. Patullo doesn't design and install the offense, it's collaborative, but mostly Sirianni.If Sirianni had that much influence, you need to ask yourself why he decided to regress from our pass concepts last year to the slop we're seeing now. And please spare me the "hE dOeSnT TrUsT hUrTs!" nonsense, because he somehow trusted him to do it in '22 and '24 when Hurts was far more efficient through the air.So then what else could be the difference? It's the OC, obviously. First time OC learning on the job in '23 and now again in '25. Sirianni and Hurts have been the constants, not the variables. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out, and it's alarming how often this has to be rehashed
25 minutes ago25 min 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:The counterpoint would be that we've seen this offense excel (2022 and parts of 2024) with certain play callers (Steichen and Moore) and struggle with others. If the playbook was all crap and the play caller were irrelevant, then we wouldn't see a wide variety in outcomes like this. The drastic improvement when Nick handed over play calling in 2021 is evidence of this.Even if you think the OC has no input on the play book and design (which I don't think is correct as things have evolved since 2021), the play caller has clearly had an impact.To be fair, I think the line play is the biggest issue so far this year.Beat me to it
22 minutes ago22 min while i dont think it's all on patullo, he does deserve his fair share of blame. as does hurts, the oline, the lack of a pass rush, injuries, and yes, sirianni.@vikas83 nailed it IMO, the oline is the biggest issue.
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