1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I hope they win tomorrow. But there are a couple things that are going on right now with dodgers and how they are pitching the Phillies. The Dodgers bullpen is making the Phillies try to chase and nibbling at the corners (not the piggyback starters (sans kershaw he is just done so he tries to get everyone to chase) but their actual BP). But if you look at their starters (outside of snell in the 6th inning last night when losing his control), they’re leaving stuff in the zone frequently and they have basically been saying try to hit our stuff. Yamamoto did much of the night. And the Phillies finally connected this series. Which might be the fact some of the guys are getting themselves into a rhythm again after a week and a half of meaningless games then a week off.

Yeah I feel like the most successful teams are the ones who have to fight to get into the playoffs and finally do, which is why the best teams by record don't actually win the WS all that often (only like 23% of the time since the implementation of the luxury tax system). Meaningless games for a large stretch of time heading into the playoffs + a bye is like pouring a bucket of ice water onto a campfire.

Eagles lead the all time series 93-87-2

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Eagles 20

Giants 16

Ugly win but Barkely goes over 100 yards

Tonight is about getting a W and staying healthy and getting into the mini bye.

Back on Eagles, I hope this game @Giants acts like a springboard for the offense like it did last season.

2 minutes ago, Eagles_ftw said:

Yeah I feel like the most successful teams are the ones who have to fight to get into the playoffs and finally do, which is why the best teams by record don't actually win the WS all that often (33% of the time). Meaningless games for a large stretch of time heading into the playoffs + a bye is like pouring a bucket of ice water onto a campfire.

The other issue is the two best teams IMO are the dodgers and the Phillies. It’s a tough matchup to begin with. Add on analytically without wheeler the dodgers were the slight favorites. They have some lineup advantages. Neither team’s actual bullpen is very good. Funny Phillies bullpen era is 4.25 and dodgers is 4.27. Granted Phillies didn’t have Duran all year. Tbh Milwaukee is about the only team left in the NL with a really good BP. Chicago’s is ok.

I thought it would be close but the dodgers would win the series unless Phillies could knock their starters out before the 6th. Cause they’d go piggyback in some of these games with Sheehan and glasnow (pretty sure Ohtani would start game 5 and snell would piggyback— I’d say reverse but if Ohtani comes in for relief i believe they lose him as a DH) so you wouldn’t face their actual bullpen for more than an inning which is not good if dodgers starters went 6-7 innings. They really got to get glasnow out of the game by the 6th tomorrow

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Eagles lay an egg 🙁

Giants 21

Eagles 20

Giants with 4 sacks

(I hope I’m wrong)

There is a game tonight.

5 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the play by play guy has been almost openly rooting for the Dodgers the entire series. He literally said he felt sorry for Clayton Kershaw multiple times and even said "he deserved better." Deserved better?? He's a pro athlete who didn't perform well in a game and deserves nothing other than the opportunity he had to keep the Dodgers in the game.

I mean I'm probably reading too much in to it, but when Schwarber hit his first home run, his initial response was Uh Oh. Is his home run a bad thing?

5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What’s funny is it’s Brian Anderson who’s a brewers commentator normally. His call of ohtani’s flyball was like he crushed it and he didn’t. and JT’s homer was not very much excitement behind it

He belongs in Milwaukee. He's as 'mid' as they come as an announcer. He belongs in the Mid-west.

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Eagles 23 Giants 20

Another ugly offensive game

Giants with 4 sacks

Barkley 2 TD's.

@mattwill One of these games it has to click no?

Eagles 48

Giants 13

Saquon runs for 175

DeJean pick 6

45 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He belongs in Milwaukee. He's as 'mid' as they come as an announcer. He belongs in the Mid-west.

17 hours ago, aptosbird said:

I am not sure, but Romo on Sunday showed an example on a typical running play how defenses are showing no respect. When the offball OG pulls across the formation to lead the runner, the unblocked DL is completely crashing through the open gap and pursuing the play from behind. The offensive brain trust should see this and run a counter with a misdirection or reverse to keep them honest...there is absolutely no counter...again which suggests either a failure in real time play calling or no sequencing...I am sure that this is just one example of the myopia and stupidity.

That sort of thing should be a staple in any sport. They managed it with the shove, but outside of that, the O is WYSIWYG. Fangio does a great job of messing around with players positions and blitzes - its almost comical how the O side of the ball is almost the polar opposite of the D. One side, mad professor, the other side, here is your run play, pass play, etc.

@mattwill Spoon fight on Thursday night, 24-16 Birds. Jaxson Dart is the leading rusher.

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Eagles 19

Giants 14

More sloppiness and asinine play calling. My biggest wish is no injuries.

EJ Smith as a giggling baffoon is not good for podcasts. Him matched with a thinks he is a comedian Bo Wulf that can't turn it off is a really bad combo for podcasts. That PHLY really missing Berman.

10 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

Unless I’m wrong there’s only really 1 example of that being successful though. 1.5 if you count Peyton…but his playoff issues make me not want to count that.

Up until the 80s pretty much all QBs called their own plays, among them Bart Starr, Roger Staubach, Ken Stabler, Joe Namath, et al. Then coaches with big egos decided they knew better. Do you think Patullo knows better?

15 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I actually liked the black on white with black socks. Also miss the shiny pants. The white pants that have a shimmer to them look so much better than the mesh ones they wear now.

@mattwill Eagles 33 Giants 13

Bonus - AJ Brown goes over 100 yards

Added Bonus. Big fight in the stands started by a Giants fan and the national media will say Eagles fans are the worst

13 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

EJ Smith as a giggling baffoon is not good for podcasts. Him matched with a thinks he is a comedian Bo Wulf that can't turn it off is a really bad combo for podcasts. That PHLY really missing Berman.

You hate Bo Wulf more than Wentz.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I mean I'm probably reading too much in to it, but when Schwarber hit his first home run, his initial response was Uh Oh. Is his home run a bad thing?

Annnnnd.....he crushes that one towards South America.....

17 minutes ago, just relax said:

Up until the 80s pretty much all QBs called their own plays, among them Bart Starr, Roger Staubach, Ken Stabler, Joe Namath, et al. Then coaches with big egos decided they knew better. Do you think Patullo knows better?

Coaches calling plays probably has helped the development of the game. Paul Brown in the late 40's and 50s called plays for Otto Graham. Brown won a bunch of Championships calling the plays for Otto Graham. In the 70's Landry didn't let Staubach call his own plays. Walsh called the plays for Montana. I think one reason it fell out of favor is the prevalence of the West Coast offense in the 90's. Another argument is that teams that had an OC/HC calling plays were more successful. Marino and Jim Kelly both called their own plays and neither were able to win. Aikman, Montana and Staubach won multiple Championships.

23 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

Annnnnd.....he crushes that one towards South America.....

Actually. The orientation of the stadium puts the direction of the outfield more North - North East. The ball landed somewhere in Manitoba

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

There is a game tonight.

Panthers have to be favored by 1.5, right?

Tonight is a big one! We need to get right and we need to put in a very good performance. If we go out there and struggle and keep it close (even if we win) then I’m going to be absolutely convinced this is going to be another 2023 season. In 2023 we had a chance to get right against the Giants, we struggled in game 1 and then a couple of weeks later lost… This could be similar so we’ve got to convince.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Coaches calling plays probably has helped the development of the game. Paul Brown in the late 40's and 50s called plays for Otto Graham. Brown won a bunch of Championships calling the plays for Otto Graham. In the 70's Landry didn't let Staubach call his own plays. Walsh called the plays for Montana. I think one reason it fell out of favor is the prevalence of the West Coast offense in the 90's. Another argument is that teams that had an OC/HC calling plays were more successful. Marino and Jim Kelly both called their own plays and neither were able to win. Aikman, Montana and Staubach won multiple Championships.

Yeah, with all that's at stake, if QBs calling their own plays were truly more successful on average, then we'd see that as the norm, rather than something that is more situational based on the tempo of the offense. I think the reason for that is what you've touched on, the complexity of a modern NFL offense has grown so much, both in breadth and depth, that dumping that task load on the QB along with everything else he's managing, is just not as efficient as offloading some of that to the dudes on the sidelines who are paying more attention to everything else happening on the field. And even then, coaches often miss things, because of the intricacies of the game itself (22 players all performing an action in a span of a few seconds that fits into a much larger puzzle, so real-time analysis is much more difficult than any other sport in existence.)

Now something like baseball, on the other hand, seems like it can be entirely player coached with minimal drop-off. Or at least that's the way it seems to someone whose only experience playing organized "baseball" is beer league softball with slightly out of shape guys in their thirties.