18 hours ago18 hr 17 minutes ago, Nivraga said:Actually. The orientation of the stadium puts the direction of the outfield more North - North East. The ball landed somewhere in ManitobaClip.Cafe'Haywood swings and crushes this one towrd South America....Harry Doyle: [as Haywood hits a high-fly ball] Haywood swings and crushes this one towrd South America. Tomlinson is gonna need a Visa to catch this one, it is out of here, and there is nothing lef...
18 hours ago18 hr I understand why coaches call the plays and how that evolved. My question remains, however: do you think Patullo knows better ( than Hurts)?
17 hours ago17 hr 22 minutes ago, just relax said:I understand why coaches call the plays and how that evolved. My question remains, however: do you think Patullo knows better ( than Hurts)?I suspect Patullo knows more about play design, while Hurts would know more about which of those designed plays the Eagles' specific personnel can execute best. I've always been told a typical NFL game plan contains almost 100 passing plays and 20 running plays. The QB then works with the coaching staff to identify which of those plays he prefers to run in various situations, alignments, etc. I don't know if the QB selects 30% of the plays, 70% .... I suspect it varies from QB to QB.One of the stated issues by Mailata is the plays aren't coming in fast enough, or the offense isn't getting to the LOS early enough in the play clock. I would suggest Sirianni implement some sort of play sheet for Patullo where there are 4-5 plays listed for each down-and-distance scenario, and the selected play can be identified much quicker.
17 hours ago17 hr 20 minutes ago, just relax said:I understand why coaches call the plays and how that evolved. My question remains, however: do you think Patullo knows better ( than Hurts)?Yes and no. I think if Hurts was only responsible for calling plays he would probably edge Patullo out because of his experience on the field. Offenses have become too complex. The logic behind coaches calling plays from the side line is that it allows the QB to focus on the immediate play while the coach gets to worry about strategy. Lets not get into what Patullo is or isn't doing just yet. This is still new to him.I think of it like having sex. Don't you think the current you would face palm your first attempt to make love to a girl/ woman. I think by midseason we should know what we have. This is the NFL. It's advanced calculus with physics. I know it feels like we've taken a CART racer and put him straight into an F1 car. But it's done. Just let it play out.
17 hours ago17 hr 36 minutes ago, just relax said:I understand why coaches call the plays and how that evolved. My question remains, however: do you think Patullo knows better ( than Hurts)?Based on the little we know so far, I think the answer is trending towards "No."
17 hours ago17 hr 36 minutes ago, just relax said:I understand why coaches call the plays and how that evolved. My question remains, however: do you think Patullo knows better ( than Hurts)?In general, yes. But what Hurts grasps? Hurts knows best.It has to be hard as someone who has made it to the highest level of offensive coordinating or head coaching, to figure out what a QB who does not know ball can handle. How do you dumb yourself down to his level?Hurts knows what he knows. Coaches can try to understand what he knows, sees, and doesnt see. Does well, and does not do well. But no one understands what is and mainly is not processing in Hurts' head, and at what speed, or mostly unspeed, better than him. He is theoretically going to be better at calling his own offense.The coaches have created their version of what they believe to be a Jalen Hurts offense. But again, thats got to be hard for a coach to call. It should be completely foreign to them. They are experts in real football. Hurts needs backyard football.In Top Gun the thinkers come up with plans that they think a pilot can fly based on their own experience, and what they grasp as realistic scenarios that a pilot can pull off. But Maverick re-defines what a pilot is capable of. No regular person even with the most elite expertise can comprehend what Maverick can do. Thats in a good way. Now think of the opposite of that. With a highly incompetent QB. Where the generals are trying to dumb down missions but they cant quite comprehend how simplistic and dumbed down it actually has to be.
17 hours ago17 hr 43 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:I feel like this is McNabb shade. He was a borderline HOF QB that was a dynamic playmaker. Arguably, Reid did not take advantage of his best traits because of his commitment to a pass first approach. Most of Belichick's bad seasons were with Cleveland and Vinny Testaverde. He also struggled when they replaced Brady with a washed up Cam Newton and Mac Jones. Reid's reputation is helped by how he re-shaped Vick. It's not like Vick had a blown out shoulder and couldn't throw the ball anymore. He also was able to pair Vick with an all-time great at RB and great WRs. I am not saying Reid isn't better. The comparison should be more than just Mahomes vs. Brady. He's totally ignoring McNabb.
17 hours ago17 hr 42 minutes ago, just relax said:I understand why coaches call the plays and how that evolved. My question remains, however: do you think Patullo knows better ( than Hurts)?I don't know the answer to this but I wouldn't be surprised if Patullo routinely walks out of the men's room with toilet paper stuck to his elbow.
17 hours ago17 hr After the Phillies, Eagles and Phillies loss 3 back to back to back Home games Sat/Sun/Mon (Terrible weekend in Philadelphia). The Phillies bats came alive last night on the road. Eagles offense explodes today on the road? We'll see. But happy Phillies are back on the winning track. Time for the Eagles to do the same. I gotta watch that Saquon Documentary too.
17 hours ago17 hr 9 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:After the Phillies, Eagles and Phillies loss 3 back to back to back Home games Sat/Sun/Mon (Terrible weekend in Philadelphia). The Phillies bats came alive last night on the road. Eagles offense explodes today on the road? We'll see. But happy Phillies are back on the winning track. Time for the Eagles to do the same. I gotta watch that Saquon Documentary too.
17 hours ago17 hr 1 minute ago, NCiggles said:Ringo and a 4th for Sauce.Have a feeling if you offer that to the jets they are gonna ask what sauce you’re on lol.
17 hours ago17 hr 22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:In general, yes. But what Hurts grasps? Hurts knows best.It has to be hard as someone who has made it to the highest level of offensive coordinating or head coaching, to figure out what a QB who does not know ball can handle. How do you dumb yourself down to his level?Hurts knows what he knows. Coaches can try to understand what he knows, sees, and doesnt see. Does well, and does not do well. But no one understands what is and mainly is not processing in Hurts' head, and at what speed, or mostly unspeed, better than him. He is theoretically going to be better at calling his own offense.The coaches have created their version of what they believe to be a Jalen Hurts offense. But again, thats got to be hard for a coach to call. It should be completely foreign to them. They are experts in real football. Hurts needs backyard football.In Top Gun the thinkers come up with plans that they think a pilot can fly based on their own experience, and what they grasp as realistic scenarios that a pilot can pull off. But Maverick re-defines what a pilot is capable of. No regular person even with the most elite expertise can comprehend what Maverick can do. Thats in a good way. Now think of the opposite of that. With a highly incompetent QB. Where the generals are trying to dumb down missions but they cant quite comprehend how simplistic and dumbed down it actually has to be.I would bet a million dollars that your IQ is under 90.
17 hours ago17 hr 18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Oh jeez, don't get me started fantasizing about Sauce/Mitcell/DeJean. I think they would want Parsons level compensation. With needs on the lines would be tough giving up several early round picks, but I want him on the Eagles.
17 hours ago17 hr 4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Have a feeling if you offer that to the jets they are gonna ask what sauce you’re on lol.TATERZ
17 hours ago17 hr @Nivraga What you say makes sense but let me play Devil's Advocate. Hurts has had eight (8) consecutive years with a different offensive coordinator. He's been exposed to more plays and play designs than probably any QB in the league. He knows what he does best and by now he knows what his teammates do best. In the huddle, he knows who's hurting and who's not, who's getting beat and who's dominating. When the team is putting together a game plan during the week, shouldn't he be involved in that? With that in mind and because he knows all the plays, formations, etc. why not let him call the plays? Bart Starr called his own plays, not Lombardi. Staubach hated not being able to call his own plays. I can understand why the coach wants to call the plays if that coach knows what he's doing. The jury is definitely out on Patullo. How about this? Pre-plan multiple options based on game situation, down and distance, perceived strengths and weaknesses, defensive tendencies, not unlike the first 15 play-scripts that so many teams run. The QB is not an idiot; let him select from those options. The OC still can talk to him between plays, feed him information, make suggestions, but the decision is up to the QB. Tom Brady ran what was essentially this system the last ten years of his career and he did pretty well.
17 hours ago17 hr 18 hours ago, mattwill said:Going to a lecture tonight. The topic is "Underground Alliances: How Roots, Fungi, & Microbes Drive Forest Resilience." I figure it might help me understand how to process the manure we have been handed this season so far.Curious, did they talk about the humongous fungi underneath the forests in Michigan and Oregon (been there, saw neither because they are underground).
17 hours ago17 hr 36 minutes ago, NCiggles said:I feel like this is McNabb shade. He was a borderline HOF QB that was a dynamic playmaker. Arguably, Reid did not take advantage of his best traits because of his commitment to a pass first approach. Most of Belichick's bad seasons were with Cleveland and Vinny Testaverde. He also struggled when they replaced Brady with a washed up Cam Newton and Mac Jones. Reid's reputation is helped by how he re-shaped Vick. It's not like Vick had a blown out shoulder and couldn't throw the ball anymore. He also was able to pair Vick with an all-time great at RB and great WRs. I am not saying Reid isn't better. The comparison should be more than just Mahomes vs. Brady. He's totally ignoring McNabb.Mcnabb isn’t close to a HoF caliber player. He was a sometimes pro bowler who won a lot of games with an incredible defense.
17 hours ago17 hr 12 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:Oh jeez, don't get me started fantasizing about Sauce/Mitcell/DeJean. I think they would want Parsons level compensation. With needs on the lines would be tough giving up several early round picks, but I want him on the Eagles.If I was Howie I would ask about Quinnen Williams and Will McDonald. Carter is clearly dealing with a shoulder issue. Getting Williams allows the team to rotate Carter more. It would likely help getting interior pressure and make the pass rush much better. McDonald would be a solid upgrade. I think he would cost more than Williams but he has a year left on his rookie deal and then his option.
16 hours ago16 hr 1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:Mcnabb isn’t close to a HoF caliber player. He was a sometimes pro bowler who won a lot of games with an incredible defense.He made 6 pro-bowls. He played the first 5 seasons of his career with terrible skill players aside from RB. McNabb was dynamic and much of the reason those teams won. My point being that he was far more talented than Testaverde, Mac Jones or washed up Cam Newton.
16 hours ago16 hr 9 hours ago, Eagles_ftw said:Back on Eagles, I hope this game @Giants acts like a springboard for the offense like it did last season.1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:Tonight is a big one! We need to get right and we need to put in a very good performance. If we go out there and struggle and keep it close (even if we win) then I’m going to be absolutely convinced this is going to be another 2023 season. In 2023 we had a chance to get right against the Giants, we struggled in game 1 and then a couple of weeks later lost… This could be similar so we’ve got to convince.Fellas, don't get your hopes up too much. It's a short week and guys are injured, and the Giants have injuries too. The Eagles may be using this is a game to play conservative, avoid injury on that god-awful field, rest some injured guys and do what it takes to come away with a win. I hope I'm wrong, that the offense explodes and they win big and impress. But, it's a short week. How much do you think Patullo and the offense (despite a couple late nights) is going to dramatically change the offense? I really hope so. The talent is there, the playbook is there, they've performed well in spots this year. But division rival games are usually tough no matter what. If the field is bad, they may limit Barkley and run Shipley and Dillon more. Carter is questionable, do they rest his shoulder? This may not be the game that answers all the questions everyone wants to see. This may be a game they just come away with a win, however it looks, and say the same stuff afterward about division rival, hard to win in this league, short week, offense has to execute, etc. etc.
16 hours ago16 hr Just now, NCiggles said:He made 6 pro-bowls. He played the first 5 seasons of his career with terrible skill players aside from RB. McNabb was dynamic and much of the reason those teams won. My point being that he was far more talented than Testaverde, Mac Jones or washed up Cam Newton.I couldn’t agree more. But none of those guys are close to the hall either. I think we’re biased as fans of the team he was the best QB in its history, but if you compare his career to anyone in the hall of fame, it’s pretty rough. Check this out:0 Super Bowls / NFL Championships0 League MVPs0 All-ProsPro Bowler in fewer than half their seasons0 4000 yard seasons (drafted 1985 or laterDoes not have multiple 30 TDs seasonsDid not retire top 20 in yards or TDsFind anybody in the modern era that made tha HoF who checks even half these boxes. Maybe Aikman. Mcnabb checks every single oneHe fell off much earlier than QBs of his era, what we’re seeing about Russell Wilson being worse after he left Seattle was what happened to Mcnabb x 10, had some of the most disappointing playoff performances in team history, he missed a lot of time to injury, and in the second half of his eagles tenure he was overshadowed by another non-HoF in his division.Mcnabb was fun to watch, but when held up against the greatest QBs who ever lived… he was never close
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