15 hours ago15 hr 1 hour ago, Nivraga said:@just relaxAs I'm starting this reply I'm thinking it's going to be long and at times seem like TMI but please bare with me.I was having a similar conversation with my son recently. He's 33, not a kid. We've literally been watching Eagles football together since he was an infant. He was born at the end of June and I watched Eagles games that season from my recliner with him sleeping on my chest. Watching the games together became a tradition like it does for most families - nothing special there. But for most of his childhood he didn't care much about the Eagles or sports in general. He would never say it, or admit it, but always knew he watched with me to appease me. He knew I loved the Eagles and it would disappoint me if he wasn't there with me. It wasn't until he discovered that his friends were die hard fans like me that he started to take a real interest in the Eagles and other sports. I'm telling you this so you'll understand that he's only been paying attention for about a decade. He's still learning.So we're having a conversation about Patullo and OC's in general and I was wondering out loud why coaches didn't treat old games and game plans like chess masters study the games of other champions. I confessed that maybe they do and that I'm just unaware but you never hear about it. I mean we all know they break down film of their opponents but never hear about how it's "football 101" to study Sid Gilman, Paul Brown, Bill Walsh etc. Pick a defense in history that reminds you of the one your playing against and then pick one of the great OCs that played against it and see how they attacked. When the Eagles acquired TO, they didn't just tell him "you're a great receiver, go run some routes and we'll throw you the ball". No, Andy Reid was thrilled to have a new toy. TO's talent made it look easy but there was purpose and design. You want to know how to get AJ more involved? Que some Eagles games from 2004 and watch how Andy Reid schemed TO open. My sons reply was that he couldn't imagine a world where they wouldn't do that. My response was: then why does it so often look like Patullo learned about football last week?You asked why Hurts isn't involved in the game plan. My response: I can't imagine a world in which the entire QB room isn't intimately involved in the gameplan.Awesome when kids follow in the tradition.
15 hours ago15 hr 1 minute ago, jamiller said:Awesome when kids follow in the tradition.I just hope my kids get to experience/watch a SB with the Cowboys in it...preferrably winning one. I consider myself extremely fortunate to have experienced/watched '77, '92, '93, and '95. All they have ever seen is failure in the post-season.
15 hours ago15 hr 23 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:I had typed up some things that I think are happening earlier this week but decided not post them...I'll try to be brief.I think the vanilla approach deliberate and is simply because what the Eagles did last year worked well and they basically out-athleted everyone else for the most part (20-2 stretch). They didn't have to get cute or show too much. Maybe that is by design idk. If not these are some questions I would be asking:How often do the Eagles use motion to determine man or zone in the secondary? This definitely matters as it can create lesser chance of success on the initial play call if the defense has an advantage with whatever coverage they are in. I watch the Eagles, but not every game, I don't seem to recall a lot of motion, I may be wrong.How often does Jalen audible? Again, I don't see a lot of it but I don't watch every game. If the intial play call is called to work against a certain zone/man look, and you get that look, fine, run it. You have to be able to audible out to a more effective play if you aren't getting the defensive alignment the play was designed to run against. Typically blocking assignments change based on the look, not necessarily the play itself, but sometimes you need to change the play.Does Jalen get the correct read of the defense alignment pre-snap? If he is then I would expect more audibles being called, especially when coverages are more disguised than they were say 10 years ago and even further back. It seems to me a lot of veteran QBs audible more frequently than the Eagles do, again I may be wrong.Do they have tendencies in the play calling? Absolutley yes. I posted yesterday or the day before about the under center vs shotgun/run vs pass tendencies. I actually found an estimated stat (admitted limited data from the source article publisher) that said the Eagles run 85% of the time when under center this year. Last year the percentage was 84%. That alone can make running the ball very difficult. If I were the D coordinator I am loading the box every time they are under center, and likely bringing a run blitz, with two deep safeties to prevent the home run ball.At the same time, a healthier O-Line might just allow the Eagles to out-athlete everyone again this year. This might sound crazy but I have even considered the fact that the Eagles may simply be holding back putting anything on tape before they really need to (they are 4-1 with an inside track at HFA), maybe saving some formations/plays/looks for the play-offs/SB run. I am sure when we all played (not NFL I know 😁) plays were added each week as the season went along, maybe some of that is happening as well.Yeah a lot of that has been analyzed. The players are mentioning publicly that it's taking too long to get plays in, which reduces time for Jalen to read defenses pre-snap. He's been pretty good with audibles. I also think Patullo was trying to redo last year and just run Barkley and expect it to be wide open, and with a banged up O line that's not happening. He'll adjust to some more passing or get Barkley outside a little, then never do it again and shrink to conservative again. Hurts at one point said they need to not play to not lose. Patullo might be too scared of risk, playing too safe. They need to open up the playbook and let the talent do their thing.
15 hours ago15 hr I'm already concerned, but if they look meh again tonight, it's going to be sounding the alarm time. They have way too much talent to be playing the way they have and each game that goes by without improvement is more of an indictment on the coaching.
15 hours ago15 hr 1 minute ago, NOTW said:Yeah a lot of that has been analyzed. The players are mentioning publicly that it's taking too long to get plays in, which reduces time for Jalen to read defenses pre-snap. He's been pretty good with audibles. I also think Patullo was trying to redo last year and just run Barkley and expect it to be wide open, and with a banged up O line that's not happening. He'll adjust to some more passing or get Barkley outside a little, then never do it again and shrink to conservative again. Hurts at one point said they need to not play to not lose. Patullo might be too scared of risk, playing too safe. They need to open up the playbook and let the talent do their thing.I think Jalen plays better in the pass game when he is slinging it and is more loose. I know you can't just take stupid chances but he needs some rope...additionally PHI needs to use play action more...they were 5th in the league through 2 games, not sure what they are after 5 games...last year they ranked 6th in play action.
15 hours ago15 hr Gameday Afternoon Eagles-Giants Game Score Predictions Update - Only 7 hours until Kickoff37 predictions recorded35 are for an Eagles win and 2 are for a Giants win. The average predicted score is Eagles 29 Giants 15.I believe I got everyone's prediction. If you don't see your name below, I either missed your prediction or you haven't submitted one yet.As always, please tag your prediction post with @mattwill that way I will be sure to see/record it. Score predictions can also have an optional "Bonus Pick" tiebreaker prediction. I will be taking predictions right up until Kickoff.The list of the 37 predictions that are recorded is presented below, sorted high to low by Eagles points predicted. Giants win predictions when any come in are highlighted in yellow.
15 hours ago15 hr 3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:I'm already concerned, but if they look meh again tonight, it's going to be sounding the alarm time. They have way too much talent to be playing the way they have and each game that goes by without improvement is more of an indictment on the coaching.Don't be surprised if it's a close game and not the satisfying offensive performance everyone hopes for. Short week, injuries, crap field over there, Patullo playing things too safe, they may play conservative and try to get out with a win and use the longer time to rest and prep for the Vikings game. I hope not, I hope they offense shows out, but I wouldn't be surprised.
15 hours ago15 hr 9 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:@mattwillEagles 27Giants 20Bonus: Hurts more rushing yards than Barkley.Thanks. Yours will appear in the next update.
15 hours ago15 hr 26 minutes ago, mattwill said:Spoon fight?2 dangerous offenses = knife fight; 2 inept offenses = spoon fightIf I thought either of these teams could run effectively, I'd say it might be a rock fight.
14 hours ago14 hr Holy crap! Mike went off!https://www.facebook.com/reel/658558720645320/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
14 hours ago14 hr 19 minutes ago, NOTW said:Don't be surprised if it's a close game and not the satisfying offensive performance everyone hopes for. Short week, injuries, crap field over there, Patullo playing things too safe, they may play conservative and try to get out with a win and use the longer time to rest and prep for the Vikings game. I hope not, I hope they offense shows out, but I wouldn't be surprised.I won't be surprised, in fact I'm expecting it honestly.
14 hours ago14 hr 11 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:Holy crap! Mike went off!https://www.facebook.com/reel/658558720645320/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6vMike keeps his coke supplier busy.
14 hours ago14 hr 1 hour ago, shlo said:It's a shame McNabb had so many years with terrible receivers.5 years at the beginning of his career. When he also had outstanding TEs, RBs, and the best OL in the nfl.And after that he had all of that plus top notch WRs too.People give Hurts crap for having it easy. Mcnabb had AR as the total control HC/OC his entire career here with no instability. A better pass blocking OL. And lots of WRs after 2003 that knew how to get open…and some of the best pass catching backs of their generation.
14 hours ago14 hr Am I overreacting or is it too early to be going into a church and lighting a candle for the team ? I’m sure there are more sensible ways to help the team, but I don’t trust the offense as a whole to actually play well enough to not have the defense Fed late in the game.
14 hours ago14 hr 2 minutes ago, NOTW said:That can't be accurate. I remember after Week 1 people talking about how much more under center there was
14 hours ago14 hr @mattwill Eagles 16Giants 17Another stinker. No individual receiver goes over 75 yards receiving on our team, and Jordan Davis gets a sack.
14 hours ago14 hr 28 minutes ago, NOTW said:Don't be surprised if it's a close game and not the satisfying offensive performance everyone hopes for. Short week, injuries, crap field over there, Patullo playing things too safe, they may play conservative and try to get out with a win and use the longer time to rest and prep for the Vikings game. I hope not, I hope they offense shows out, but I wouldn't be surprised.You're right. I think the Giants would really have to lay an egg for this to be a total blowout.The Eagles don't really need to lay it all out there unless it's a one score game in the 4th quarter.What I'm going to be looking for is an end to the unforced penalties and some improved run blocking. We may still get some three and outs because there's no need to put Hurts at risk or throw into danger.
14 hours ago14 hr 4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:That can't be accurate. I remember after Week 1 people talking about how much more under center there wasMaybe it's just Dan's understanding.
14 hours ago14 hr 7 minutes ago, NOTW said:Mike keeps his coke supplier busy.He’s not wrong though, playing football, not just at receiver, was a whole other experience up until 20-25 years ago. The podcast that pissed him off was younger players basically saying DBs had it easy when Deion was playing because receivers were slow and not hard to cover.
14 hours ago14 hr 3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:That can't be accurate. I remember after Week 1 people talking about how much more under center there wasUnless he meant 5 pass plays from under center? Right there someone else is saying 7 under center plays in one game
14 hours ago14 hr 18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:That can't be accurate. I remember after Week 1 people talking about how much more under center there wasThere was but they quickly realized that they run from under center every time. No passing form under center. Hurts would have to understand a basic QB fundamental like how to take a drop, and he cant do that.
14 hours ago14 hr 37 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:Holy crap! Mike went off!https://www.facebook.com/reel/658558720645320/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6vI feel like that recording started in the middle of his rant and context is missing. What was he going on about?
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