1 hour ago, lynched1 said:

"Hey Van, I mean it, I’d love to have you on my show to have a respectful conversation about crime and race,” Kirk wrote in his message

did @VanHammersly respond?

9 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Still too broke for cable eh?

We stream but I don't have what it takes to sit around and do nothing very often.

"Idle hands" and all of that.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

🤣 Brave. This is an uber wealthy area. David Robertson lives there and coaches up the highschool team sometimes. Teacher sounds like an idiot for posting that on public media, but these are rich kids who gave zero risk of consequence here. And certainly aren't lacking for conservative influences in their life. They liked Kirk and wanna stick it to the teacher, nothing more.

The teacher should sue because they would win. They’re not on the job while on Tick Tock. It might be different if they were taking their clothes off or turning tricks online, but this falls under freedom of speech.

If these kids had any guts or interest in a real education they would ask in class why the teacher has that opinion — then actually listen to the answer and learn something

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The teacher should sue because they would win. They’re not on the job while on Tick Tock. It might be different if they were taking their clothes off or turning tricks online, but this falls under freedom of speech.

If these kids had any guts or interest in a real education they would ask in class why the teacher has that opinion — then actually listen to the answer and learn something

I'm sure there's a line. Like if he went online and said "Hitler was the best!" full Kanye style, I'm pretty sure he could get fired. I doubt calling a piece of garbage a piece of garbage is over that line but they hired an arbiter so let him do their job. The opinions of sailing team captains Thad, Chad and Brad means exactly nothing here and the sob story about being influenced by this evil teacher is laughable.

38 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The teacher should sue because they would win. They’re not on the job while on Tick Tock. It might be different if they were taking their clothes off or turning tricks online, but this falls under freedom of speech.

If these kids had any guts or interest in a real education they would ask in class why the teacher has that opinion — then actually listen to the answer and learn something

You need to check the collective bargaining agreement. We don't know what's in there. There could be a personal conduct clause giving the school district the right to dismiss the teacher for certain types of violations.

46 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The teacher should sue because they would win. They’re not on the job while on Tick Tock. It might be different if they were taking their clothes off or turning tricks online, but this falls under freedom of speech.

First I would suggest you read the first amendment and learn what you are and are not protected from.

If she can prove the federal government terminated her she might have a case.

Your job can fire you for being a dumb*** online.

Prosper from this information and go forth.

Next course of action for a suspension, not a termination.

Jimmy Kimmel and Disney are working toward reaching a compromise that would allow "Jimmy Kimmel Live” to return to ABC.

3 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Next course of action for a suspension, not a termination.

Jimmy Kimmel and Disney are working toward reaching a compromise that would allow "Jimmy Kimmel Live” to return to ABC.

I bet HBO and/or Netflix have reached out to him. He should screw ABC just like Bill Maher did.

11 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

I bet HBO and/or Netflix have reached out to him. He should screw ABC just like Bill Maher did.

I doubt it. He was suspended not terminated. His ratings were trending along with the other two, and that isn't an upward trajectory.

He wasn't even suspended for what he said. He was suspended for threatening to go farther the next evening. The affiliates were down with it and his employer said "enough".

7 posts above

no oxford comma

boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

37 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Yawn boring. I was hoping for gay MAGA. Piss everyone off.

43 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Yawn boring. I was hoping for gay MAGA. Piss everyone off.

@Arthur Jackson would never kill a man

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Yah, Allan Smith is inside the DOJ and Utah AG's office and knows exactly what's going on in the internal investigations.

The biggest reason why Jimmy Kimmel is out

Nielsen ratings, on average, are down across the board for all genres and show types. They've largely been unable to accurately assess streaming viewership in their process. Kimmel might still be below the overall downward trend but it's not as dramatic as implied by the graphic once you compare it to all other shows (especially the most direct competitors.)

And for those who think streaming is still small potatoes and Kimmel was struggling with online viewership, I suggest you compare his subscriber and total views count on his YouTube channel with right wing media darling Joe Rogan's.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Nielsen ratings, on average, are down across the board for all genres and show types. They've largely been unable to accurately assess streaming viewership in their process. Kimmel might still be below the overall downward trend but it's not as dramatic as implied by the graphic once you compare it to all other shows (especially the most direct competitors.)

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And for those who think streaming is still small potatoes and Kimmel was struggling with online viewership, I suggest you compare his subscriber and total views count on his YouTube channel with right wing media darling Joe Rogan's.

According to Grok:

The entire format is in crisis: All three shows are unprofitable (Kimmel/Fallon each losing $10-20M/year), with ad revenue down due to cord-cutting. Political satire has alienated some viewers, but data points to structural issues like streaming dominance. Kimmel's show ranked second in its slot for most of 2025 but ended weaker, making its decline more pronounced relative to Colbert's stability. If "below" means less severe, the answer is no—Kimmel's was often equal to or worse than peers'.

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As for your point about Youtube viewership, that's really irrelevant. Perhaps it points to a degree of popularity not reflect in Nielson ratings, but from ABC's perspective, so what? That doesn't help the network.

Bottom line, all three late night shows are in decline, but Kimmel's decline - from a ratings perspective - was the steepest. Perhaps the answer for a guy like Kimmel is to switch solely to a streaming or online presence like others have done. However, that would entail a considerable amount of expense on his part since he would bear the cost of producing his show online unless he could find backers.

8 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

The teacher should sue because they would win. They’re not on the job while on Tick Tock. It might be different if they were taking their clothes off or turning tricks online, but this falls under freedom of speech.

If these kids had any guts or interest in a real education they would ask in class why the teacher has that opinion — then actually listen to the answer and learn something

No it doesn't. It's freedom of speech not freedom from consequences for what you say.

Also consider there are discussions boards like this and social media where you go for attention. She wanted attention and got it.

9 hours ago, lynched1 said:

First I would suggest you read the first amendment and learn what you are and are not protected from.

If she can prove the federal government terminated her she might have a case.

Your job can fire you for being a dumb*** online.

Prosper from this information and go forth.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

No it doesn't. It's freedom of speech not freedom from consequences for what you say.

This was a public school and States must follow the 1st amendment. She would absolutely have a case if they terminated her.

5 hours ago, Procus said:

As for your point about Youtube viewership, that's really irrelevant. Perhaps it points to a degree of popularity not reflect in Nielson ratings, but from ABC's perspective, so what? That doesn't help the network.

Wait, so you think ABC isn't making money from his 20M streaming subscribers? Is that right, counselor?

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

This was a public school and States must follow the 1st amendment. She would absolutely have a case if they terminated her.

Procus, while being thoroughly retarded in almost all other matters, is correct in that their CBA may have dictated that personal conduct outside of school hours (in a public setting, like what you post on the internet) which is damaging to the school's reputation, may possibly result in termination. There are many cases since the dawn of the internet where this exact sort of thing has been challenged and upheld.

Now obviously there is a line on what can be viewed as "damaging" and a violation of district policy, like the one teacher who put up a poster saying "All students are welcome" would almost certainly win if she had fought it instead of resigning. And in this case, it might be a tough sell that calling someone as controversial as Charlie Kirk a piece of trash, would be a violation as well, but it's not a forgone conclusion that it would be found as a wrongful termination in court.

36 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Wait, so you think ABC isn't making money from his 20M streaming subscribers? Is that right, counselor?

What's funny is even after shutting down his show they'll still make money on streaming.

Looks like the house of mouse came to their senses and started to lean on Sinclair until they backed down. Hate to see it.

Sinclair’s ABC Stations Did Not Air Charlie Kirk Special as Planned After Kimmel Suspension, Carried ‘Celebrity Family Feud’ Rerun Instead

TV station group made news special on conservative activist available on YouTube

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/sinclair-abc-stations-drop-charlie-kirk-special-celebrity-family-feud-1236525562/