8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How this was not called is just beyond me. It’s blatant, obvious and probably cost the eagles a massive pick up

To the officials' credit, happened way too fast to make a call live, imo   I've rewatched it 3 times in full speed and I still can't see it. 

And how often do we see "tripping calls" on running plays?  Like once per season, if that?

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Some of those have been all season

10) Play sequencing seemed to be a random grab bag instead of a cohesive attack plan to keep the defense guessing

1 hour ago, MrGreenBay said:

The fumble that cost us points before half. That doesn’t happen you guys lose. If we don’t have a false start penalty on Watson big catch we score on that drive.

But...it did happen. It is not part of some twisted fantasy land. It did happen and that is part of football and the Eagles created those opportunities. So go sleep it off...

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

To the officials' credit, happened way too fast to make a call live, imo   I've rewatched it 3 times in full speed and I still can't see it. 

And how often do we see "tripping calls" on running plays?  Like once per season, if that?

There’s multiple officials on the field looking for stuff like that at multiple different angles. Yet somehow they were able to call Brett Toth for a hold? Which was even harder to see. Also I saw it when it happened. It was pretty obvious he just stuck his leg out there as he was beat and Barkley had a sizable running lane

Man it is bippy shrinking cold outside today

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

On the Smitty TD pretty sure the safety was locked in on AJ - giving Smitty the one on one opportunity.

He did...and Jalens pump made the safety bite down on AJ

24 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I always get confused about 5th year options. Both Carter and Smith have to have theirs picked up by May 1. When is the sweet spot for an extension? Is it before the 5th year option is picked up or can Carter and Smith have their option picked up and then negotiate an extension before 2027?

I'm letting Blankenship walk at this point.

For as good as Davis has been, Ojomo is playing 65% of the snaps to Davis's 61% and he's playing them at a high level. Granted, Ojomo will need a new deal too, but cheaper than Davis.

Big question is, who impacts the running game more...Dean or Davis? I'm leaning Dean.

I think what we might end up seeing is a Phillips extension and a Nolan Smith trade before May 1. Love what Smith brings to the table from an energy standpoint, but he's fragile. Not that Phillips has been a beacon of health, but Smith has missed significant time so far. Phillips is 6-5 265 compared to Nolan Smith 6-2 238. The Eagles need some size on the edge. Both players stood out last night and would love to have both of them back. Just not realistic.

It's going to suck seeing some of these guys walk, but they can't keep them all.

Carter, Dean, Phillips might be the guys I make the priority right now.

Cant argue size and health while pounding the table for Dean, dude…

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s multiple officials on the field looking for stuff like that at multiple different angles. Yet somehow they were able to call Brett Toth for a hold? Which was even harder to see. Also I saw it when it happened. It was pretty obvious he just stuck his leg out there.

They should make running plays illegal because it's hard to detect if there is tripping.

46 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

There are players you make exceptions for and Dean very well might be one of those players. He single handedly has improved the run defense. LB isn't like DL where you can piece meal a rotation to replicate sacks and pressure. You're either a good LB against the run or you aren't. Dean excels in the run game, but he's also a tremendous blitzer. He lives behind the LOS. He's a leader and he brings energy. He's just about to turn 25. His best football hasn't been played yet.

I'm almost certain Baun's contract can be looked at as a 2-year deal with an out after next year, not that anyone wants Baun gone. He doesn't come off the field and has proven last year wasn't a fluke. He's a great LB. But, if the Eagles want to stay young, they could view Dean and Campbell as the duo of the future. They could bring Dean back with one year of LB contract overlap knowing Baun is gone after 26.

IMO, Dean's impact since his return has been greater than Campbell's impact. The coaches see it as Dean has taken snaps away from Campbell. I like what Dean brings to the table more than Campbell. That being said, Campbell is only 9 games in to his NFL career (just like Dean, his best football is ahead of him). He's got plenty of room to improve. One thing has stood out to me is Campbell looks extremely lean for a LB. They are essentially the same weight, but Dean is 5-11 while Campbell is 6-3. I think Dean's compact size makes him a better fit for the run game. Dean is a London Fletcher/Sam Mills LB. Both of those guys were anchors in the middle.

Campbell was drafted based on value and uncertainty. Top 15 talent dropping to 31 and the unknown of Dean's rehab made it an easy pick. Looking back though, if Dean is healthy, Josh Simmons or a trade back and taking a guy like TJ Sanders, Mason Taylor, Donovan Ezeiruaku makes more sense. Future starters on OL/DL/TE who provide immediate depth would have been great.

It's a great situation to be in when you have too many good players. It also sucks because we have to watch good players walk in FA.

The bottom line is I like Dean's instincts and leadership more than I like Campbell's superior athletic traits.

Campbell is a rookie. Almost all rookie LBs suck. He’s learning to trigger better and trust what he sees. That’s just part of the development process. Dean has elite instincts no doubt, but he’s undersized and not a great athlete. He’s had two major lower body injuries. If he loses a step, he turns into a major liability against the pass.

I’ll trust Vic on whatever he decides, but I’d be stunned if we paid Nakobe a market value contract. There are a lot of teams with a lot of cap space that could afford to taking a chance on Dean. We’re set up that we don’t need to.

Just now, pgcd3 said:

They should make running plays illegal because it's hard to detect if there is tripping.

I don’t know if Parsons was thinking this because it happened quickly in real time. But part of me thinks he knew that Barkley was at least going to get around 10-15 yards if he got by him with that lane and where the safeties were. So if he tripped him, he gets a penalty thrown at least he prevented a potential touchdown from happening.

1 hour ago, MrGreenBay said:

We outplayed you guys.

Did you outplay the Browns and Panthers too

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They should make running plays illegal because it's hard to detect if there is tripping.

I see what you did there. Well done.

30 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I always get confused about 5th year options. Both Carter and Smith have to have theirs picked up by May 1. When is the sweet spot for an extension? Is it before the 5th year option is picked up or can Carter and Smith have their option picked up and then negotiate an extension before 2027?

I'm letting Blankenship walk at this point.

For as good as Davis has been, Ojomo is playing 65% of the snaps to Davis's 61% and he's playing them at a high level. Granted, Ojomo will need a new deal too, but cheaper than Davis.

Big question is, who impacts the running game more...Dean or Davis? I'm leaning Dean.

I think what we might end up seeing is a Phillips extension and a Nolan Smith trade before May 1. Love what Smith brings to the table from an energy standpoint, but he's fragile. Not that Phillips has been a beacon of health, but Smith has missed significant time so far. Phillips is 6-5 265 compared to Nolan Smith 6-2 238. The Eagles need some size on the edge. Both players stood out last night and would love to have both of them back. Just not realistic.

It's going to suck seeing some of these guys walk, but they can't keep them all.

Carter, Dean, Phillips might be the guys I make the priority right now.

We may get a bargain for Carter. This was supposed to be a breakout season for a big contract. Though Howie does do contracts based on potential a lot of times

The other one apparently emptied his gas tank a few weeks ago

Thank you to all the Veterans here who have served our Country.

27 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

You're looking at it wrong. We went from a 1.4% chance of losing to a 6.3% chance. The decision made it four and a half times likelier that we lose the game.

Oh I know, I'm just shocked it's not 10x more likely we lose the game when we gifted them almost half the distance needed with less than 30 seconds left.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I see what you did there. Well done.

I'm still dumbfounded that people are buying the argument that it's hard for refs to call a false start properly so they should ban a certain play. Let's face it Lane has been borderline falsestarting on pass plays for years. If you slow it down there are probably false starts a lot more than they are called everywhere. It's just such a weak argument for banning a play. The irony is that the true way to ban the play is to say you can't aide the ball carrier forward at any point but they don't want to do that because it's tough to officiate

2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I think Jordan Love is "supposed” to be an elite QB in the same way I’m "supposed” to be married to Paige Spiranac.

Hence why I said "supposed to be." He is an overrated turd.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s multiple officials on the field looking for stuff like that at multiple different angles. Yet somehow they were able to call Brett Toth for a hold? Which was even harder to see. Also I saw it when it happened. It was pretty obvious he just stuck his leg out there as he was beat and Barkley had a sizable running lane

I get it but "tripping" on shorter yardage, down the middle runs like that happens more often than we think but is rarely called, imo. How many tripping calls do we see per year? I've been watching football for over 35 years and can only remember a handful. It's one of those calls that unless it's in the open field and overly blatant, it is rarely called.

Good thing I only saw the very end of the game this morning my time. It seemed like a poor game. I’d love to know if Sirianni has explained what the hell he was up to with the 4th down attempt. Also, the ESPN graphics made it look like a flag was thrown(which it should’ve been). A win is a win but overall it appears it wasn’t a good performance.

10 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They should make running plays illegal because it's hard to detect if there is tripping.

I said this last night. They just get tripping wrong or don’t call it when it it happens so frequently and it is really an infrequent infraction. Last year, the Lions tripped DAL, but the penalty was called against DAL. Officiating has gotten worse at every level of football as the years have passed.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm still dumbfounded that people are buying the argument that it's hard for refs to call a false start properly so they should ban a certain play. Let's face it Lane has been borderline falsestarting on pass plays for years. If you slow it down there are probably false starts a lot more than they are called everywhere. It's just such a weak argument for banning a play. The irony is that the true way to ban the play is to say you can't aide the ball carrier forward at any point but they don't want to do that because it's tough to officiate

Anyone making excuses for the refs in any way shape or form is clueless. NFL officiating has never been worse and it's not even close. These FN morons have no clue what they are doing.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I get it but "tripping" on shorter yardage, down the middle runs like that happen more often than we think but is rarely called, imo. How many tripping calls do we see per year? I've been watching football for almost 30 years and can only remember a handful. It's one of those calls that unless it's in the open field and overly blatant, it is rarely called.

It’s pretty blatant here. parsons has no chance on this play besides trying to trip. I don’t care if they don’t call it often. There’s stuff every year that rarely gets called but somehow manages to get called. Frankly rules that some fans don’t even know. they know the rules. Like if it wasn’t blatantly obvious, I would agree with you. But you could see it clear as day that Micah Parsons has no shot at making that tackle so just stick his leg out there. He’s lucky he didn’t hurt considering Barkley’s speed when running into it

Putting the cart before the horse… We have to expect that Christian Parker is getting a DC job this offseason. Maybe he interviews for HC jobs. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dean or Blankenship follows him wherever he lands.

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm still dumbfounded that people are buying the argument that it's hard for refs to call a false start properly so they should ban a certain play. Let's face it Lane has been borderline falsestarting on pass plays for years. If you slow it down there are probably false starts a lot more than they are called everywhere. It's just such a weak argument for banning a play. The irony is that the true way to ban the play is to say you can't aide the ball carrier forward at any point but they don't want to do that because it's tough to officiate

They'd make moving the pile illegal by doing that

3 minutes ago, EaglesIreland said:

Good thing I only saw the very end of the game this morning my time. It seemed like a poor game. I’d love to know if Sirianni has explained what the hell he was up to with the 4th down attempt. Also, the ESPN graphics made it look like a flag was thrown(which it should’ve been). A win is a win but overall it appears it wasn’t a good performance.

Actually, it was much better than what the stat lines indicate.  It was a classic defensive showdown in very cold, windy conditions - "at the frozen tundra of Lambaeu Field"  If you like elite defensive performances, grind it out games, this one was for you.  I was glad to watch it tbh - defensive performances by both teams (like the one last night) are rare nowadays.    But for football purists - always fun to watch ever so often.