7 minutes ago, MrGreenBay said:

The fumble that cost us points before half. That doesn’t happen you guys lose. If we don’t have a false start penalty on Watson big catch we score on that drive.

If hurts doesn’t fumble on the opening drive that cost us points. If they don’t call back on a hold (ticky tack hold which GB had far worse in this game) on Barkley’s 21 yard run that got us across mid-field to the 44 that may have also cost us points. So we are playing the what if game….

Cool story if you guys didn’t F up against the browns and panthers you might have been undefeated going into that game…

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

On the Smitty TD pretty sure the safety was locked in on AJ - giving Smitty the one on one opportunity.

Agreed - it looked like C4 where the safety got baited underneath so that Devonta could run a post behind him for the 1v1. The ball was thrown short, but Smitty delivers given the opportunity.

6 hours ago, brkmsn said:

One can argue that Sirianni's decision was simply an aggressive call to win the game now. He put faith in his players on offense and had faith in his defense if it didn't work. Of course people are going to second guess him either way if we fail. Personally, I prefer aggressive decisions that attempt to win games as opposed to conservative ones that are trying not to lose. Win some ... lose some ...

btw ... we won the game.

Fine line between brave and stupid…

In a game the Def was controlling, and the Off sucked, you want to bet on the offense to close put the game? No way. Just dumb

22 minutes ago, MrGreenBay said:

The better team lost. We beat ourselves.

Something I'm sure you're used to in Cheeseland....beating yourself. Enjoy doing that during the cold lonely winter.....

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Agreed - it looked like C4 where the safety got baited underneath so that Devonta could run a post behind him for the 1v1. The ball was thrown short, but Smitty delivers given the opportunity.

TBH the ball wasn't even "that short". Aikman was going on and on about how it was short and a contested catch ball but it really wasn't. The fact that Smitty had to jump 30+ inches in the air to go up and get it says it wasn't really underthrown, just tight coverage. If you rewatch the play, Smitty's high point is a good foot and a half over the defenders head without the defender making a play for the ball. Great play overall - the best passing play (and catch) of the game, imo.

19 minutes ago, MrGreenBay said:

The fumble that cost us points before half. That doesn’t happen you guys lose. If we don’t have a false start penalty on Watson big catch we score on that drive.

Dude, that fumble was terrible. On the other hand, the Hurts fumble cost the Eagles a score on the 1st drive.

Happy for the win. Frustrated by how predictable the offense gets with a lead late in games. It's gonna be a run up the middle on first and second down every damn time, leaving the offense in 3rd and a mile. Will the playcalling evolve? This O Line needs some scheme to get the running game going... and keep it going. The offense can't keep telegraphing what they're doing.

32 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not letting Dean walk out of the building. He's such a good player. No idea if they tried, but I still think they should have signed him to an incentive based extension while he was still recovering. Now he's going to get PAID. I like him more than I like Campbell, and Campbell is a very good player. Dean is just so much better against the run. I hope they can find a way to bring him back.

Gonna be a tough offseason to manage. Dean and Smith and Carter and Davis…and Reed

With Q and DeJean on deck…but AJ pays for them i figure

I slept on it and I don't feel any better about it. I still can't think of a worse decision that a head coach has made in the years I've been watching the sport. Maybe Morningweg going with the wind instead of the ball in sudden death OT?

32 minutes ago, MrGreenBay said:

The better team lost. We beat ourselves.

Ahahahahahaha!

Jordan Love blowwwwwwwwws.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I slept on it and I don't feel any better about it. I still can't think of a worse decision that a head coach has made in the years I've been watching the sport. Maybe Morningweg going with the win instead of the ball in sudden death OT?

I think Hurts went off script based on nicks reaction, but he will never admit it

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

TBH the ball wasn't even "that short". Aikman was going on and on about how it was short and a contested catch ball but it really wasn't. The fact that Smitty had to jump 30+ inches in the air to go up and get it says it wasn't really underthrown, just tight coverage. If you rewatch the play, Smitty's high point is a good foot and a half over the defenders head without the defender making a play for the ball. Great play overall - the best passing play (and catch) of the game, imo.

Didn’t hear Aikman at the bar, but Smitty had to break stride for the ball. I’m glad it didn’t turn into one of those non-called DPI plays.

At another point earlier I think - GB was leaning into C2 and we missed a shot to the TE deep up the seam (Calculator?).

In both cases, I think KP dialed up the right play to get over the top of these 2H defenses that we struggle against.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m happy for Dean and am glad it appears he didn’t lose a step he couldn’t afford to lose from that injury. He’s playing much better than I would have expected.

That said, we gave Baun top linebacker money and spent a first-round pick on Campbell, who clearly isn’t an edge. Dean should earn himself a decent contract. I’d be stunned if we brought him back.

There are players you make exceptions for and Dean very well might be one of those players. He single handedly has improved the run defense. LB isn't like DL where you can piece meal a rotation to replicate sacks and pressure. You're either a good LB against the run or you aren't. Dean excels in the run game, but he's also a tremendous blitzer. He lives behind the LOS. He's a leader and he brings energy. He's just about to turn 25. His best football hasn't been played yet.

I'm almost certain Baun's contract can be looked at as a 2-year deal with an out after next year, not that anyone wants Baun gone. He doesn't come off the field and has proven last year wasn't a fluke. He's a great LB. But, if the Eagles want to stay young, they could view Dean and Campbell as the duo of the future. They could bring Dean back with one year of LB contract overlap knowing Baun is gone after 26.

IMO, Dean's impact since his return has been greater than Campbell's impact. The coaches see it as Dean has taken snaps away from Campbell. I like what Dean brings to the table more than Campbell. That being said, Campbell is only 9 games in to his NFL career (just like Dean, his best football is ahead of him). He's got plenty of room to improve. One thing has stood out to me is Campbell looks extremely lean for a LB. They are essentially the same weight, but Dean is 5-11 while Campbell is 6-3. I think Dean's compact size makes him a better fit for the run game. Dean is a London Fletcher/Sam Mills LB. Both of those guys were anchors in the middle.

Campbell was drafted based on value and uncertainty. Top 15 talent dropping to 31 and the unknown of Dean's rehab made it an easy pick. Looking back though, if Dean is healthy, Josh Simmons or a trade back and taking a guy like TJ Sanders, Mason Taylor, Donovan Ezeiruaku makes more sense. Future starters on OL/DL/TE who provide immediate depth would have been great.

It's a great situation to be in when you have too many good players. It also sucks because we have to watch good players walk in FA.

The bottom line is I like Dean's instincts and leadership more than I like Campbell's superior athletic traits.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I slept on it and I don't feel any better about it. I still can't think of a worse decision that a head coach has made in the years I've been watching the sport. Maybe Morningweg going with the win instead of the ball in sudden death OT?

In Sirianni's defense, I'm pretty sure he wasn't fully aware of the actual play call (or possible audible) - he likely just made the call to "go for it".  Possibly some miscommunication on the actual play call is my guess.  

A FG from 52 yards against the wind isn't a given - maybe a 60% - 70ish% chance? And a missed FG gives Green Bay very good field position - maybe only 30 yards away from a FG to tie the game?

 

Punting there would have been the safe bet but then you're giving GB the ball back with only a half field to go to get a solid FG opportunity to tie the game.  One big play or PI call and the game is tied. 

But a first down there ends the game.  The bomb to AJ in that scenario is the questionable part but they did it against the Commanders last year in a similar situation and it worked.  Not sure I would have called that play last night, given the conditions and how well both defenses were playing but in the end, as well as our defense played- they were able to hold it down and get the win.

12 minutes ago, shlo said:

Happy for the win. Frustrated by how predictable the offense gets with a lead late in games. It's gonna be a run up the middle on first and second down every damn time, leaving the offense in 3rd and a mile. Will the playcalling evolve? This O Line needs some scheme to get the running game going... and keep it going. The offense can't keep telegraphing what they're doing.

We focus a lot on the conservative playcalling on 3rd down and long, but we got to do more stay on schedule. Not great when we run on 1st down and GB is bringing a S down from depth to meet Saquon in the hole - then they just go back into their shell and we can’t find the passing windows.

That salty Green Bay fan is hilarious. "I hope our hated rival, the Lions, blow you out next week.”

GO PACK GO! 🤣🤣🤣

I feel great! This isn't 2023. The defense is much better and though it's mentioned it's not mentioned enough, we've played a really hard schedule with top teams on the road and we've beaten them. We're 7-2 with the #1 seed

Low key MVPs: Fred Johnson, Brett Toth, Xavier Gipson, Nakobe Dean, Jake Elliott

Patullo has to figure out how to stop wasting drives. We got a delay of game in a critical moment because he couldn't pick a play. Same thing whenever first down doesn't go as planned--he needs a plan A, B, and C and right now it feels like he struggles just to muster a plan A.

25 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I’m struggling to see Blankenship coming back, let alone spending that $ if we had it on Nakobe. We did get 10pts out of our $200M offense though, so that’s good.

My gut tells me that the Eagles offered Blankenship a new contract and he turned it down. He took a huge gamble on himself, go a new agent and assumed he could get a better contract. He hasn't been bad this year, but nothing about his play has made me say he deserves a new contract. You bring him back because you don't want a hole at safety or you bring Dean back because he impacts the game and makes the defense better. Give me the guy who changes the way the defense plays.

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I think Hurts went off script based on nicks reaction, but he will never admit it

You don't even send him on to the field though. It's still not a first down even if they jump offsides. There was just no sensible reason not to punt there given how little time was left in the game. Please, show me some analytics or something that says otherwise. I'm dying to believe a Super Bowl winning head coach isn't that stupid. There's gotta be something I'm missing here. I don't want the illusion to be ruined, so just sell me on the math somehow.

I'm sorry there is no excuse for the 4th down call. They could have punted it short and high and the Packers wouldnt have had any time.

For a moment I was hoping it was a Hurts pooch punt. It would have been perfect

I’m not saying I agree with it but maybe they were thinking a deep completion or interception at that part of field would win us the game.

8 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Didn’t hear Aikman at the bar, but Smitty had to break stride for the ball. I’m glad it didn’t turn into one of those non-called DPI plays.

At another point earlier I think - GB was leaning into C2 and we missed a shot to the TE deep up the seam (Calculator?).

In both cases, I think KP dialed up the right play to get over the top of these 2H defenses that we struggle against.

Yeah - but had Smitty not broken stride, the trajectory/catch point of the ball would have been lower but still decent enough to catch if there wasn't as tight coverage - basically the tightness of the coverage is the main reason Smitty had to break stride and "go up and get it".  Exceptionally smart and athletic play by Smitty - elite level WR play, imo. 

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Punting there would have been the safe bet

Yeah no sheet. It's like saying taking a knee is a safe bet when all you need to do is kill clock. I want to see the analytics that prove going for it was the right choice. I want the data.

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m happy for Dean and am glad it appears he didn’t lose a step he couldn’t afford to lose from that injury. He’s playing much better than I would have expected.

That said, we gave Baun top linebacker money and spent a first-round pick on Campbell, who clearly isn’t an edge. Dean should earn himself a decent contract. I’d be stunned if we brought him back.

I don’t see Dean being back. But one could make that case that if you got him on a decent deal that baun at the end of 2026 is going to be 30 with one year left on his contract. Do the eagles want to extend him knowing he’ll be 31 when the extension kicks in. Or would they be OK dealing him to get picks and stockpile more picks if they had Dean (would be 26 at the end of 2026) and Campbell going forward as the future?

Again not suggesting Dean is back or this is how they are thinking. But i can see a world where they choose to get out a year or two early by not wanting to give Baun an extension at 30 going on 31.