5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The fact that you are using that last drive as some meaningful proof point shows such a blind agenda it's ridiculous

Fact you write it off shows an even larger one

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It's perfectly fair and correct to discount the Raiders. They stink. But to somehow indict Hurts who threw 3 incomplete passes one of which was the Goedert TD drop is really a nuts agenda. But consistent with this board at least.

Indict? Of course not. Discount? Absolutely. As far as I’m concerned the Chargers were still their last game.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

It's perfectly fair and correct to discount the Raiders. They stink. But to somehow indict Hurts who threw 3 incomplete passes one of which was the Goedert TD drop is really a nuts agenda. But consistent with this board at least.

One of the propaganda pigs actually said this before the games today.

"The Rams beat Arizona so they are once again the best team in the league"

It was just Arizona. 3-10 on the year. 1-10 in their last 11. But it elevates the LA team?

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Starting to feel like a Rams Bills super bowl

If the bills can’t make it to it this year I’m not sure they ever are. There’s going to be no mahomes, burrow and possibly Lamar in their way. None of the teams in the afc are juggernauts. Patriots are solid but not great. Broncos are frankly overrated. Chargers have a mess on offense with that oline. Texans offense against better teams is still questionable. Lastly jaguars are beginning to hit their stride but even so are very beatable

4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It's perfectly fair and correct to discount the Raiders. They stink. But to somehow indict Hurts who threw 3 incomplete passes one of which was the Goedert TD drop is really a nuts agenda. But consistent with this board at least.

Did you see how amazing Tanner was?😍

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Fact you write it off shows an even larger one

I’m not happy with the qb Hurts is.  I’d rather see what McKee can offer.  So I’m with you there.  But I think it’s really hard to say anything about McKee from today.  This game was a walk through.  I’d actually argue that rivals the most top to bottom quit I’ve seen in a game from a team.

Bills have about a 2% chance to make the Super Bowl.

Rams have about a 10% chance to make the Super Bowl.

I'm not sure the Rams would beat the Eagles or Packers once if they played both 5 times each.

Propaganda does not help you on the field.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I’m not happy with the qb Hurts is.  I’d rather see what McKee can offer.  So I’m with you there.  But I think it’s really hard to say anything about McKee from today.  This game was a walk through.  I’d actually argue that rivals the most top to bottom quit I’ve seen in a game from a team.

Get it but it wasn’t just him. It was the way the OL blocked, fast decisions, holes for Tank. Arguably one of the best the offensive as a whole has looked all year outside of scripted plays. Everything was clicking even if it was one drive. It wasn't laborious.

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Did you see how amazing Tanner was?😍

Silly me. I didn't consider a guy throwing 3 passes for 33 yards in the 4th qtr of a 31-0 game against a terrible opponent as a definitive proof point of his greatness. What was I thinking?

Just now, pgcd3 said:

Silly me. I didn't consider a guy throwing 3 passes for 33 yards in the 4th qtr of a 31-0 game against a terrible opponent as a definitive proof point of his greatness. What was I thinking?

Did you see those spirals? Amazing! And that poise in the pocket!

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Get it but it wasn’t just him. It was the way the OL blocked, fast decisions, holes for Tank. Arguably one of the best the offensive as a whole has looked all year outside of scripted plays. Everything was clicking even if it was one drive. It wasn't laborious.

So Drew Kendall, Matt Pryor & Brett Toth were better than the starters because of Tanner McGee vs Hurts? That's your contention?

Avonte Maddox is playing really well for the Lions

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Avonte Maddox is playing really well for the Lions

And staying relatively healthy.

I want the Eagles to be in a position to clinch the division if they beat the Bills. A meaningful game against a very good team….win and they can treat week 17 as a bye (like last year). Lose and they have to trot out their starters against the Commanders in week 17 and every nagging bump and bruise in the wild card round will be a reminder of their incompetence.

Finishing the season with a smattering of Ws against teams that are trying to lose and an L to the last 4 consecutive teams that actually tried to win…that’s a guaranteed first round loss.

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Did you see how amazing Tanner was?😍

Just now, eagle45 said:

I want the Eagles to be in a position to clinch the division if they beat the Bills. A meaningful game against a very good team….win and they can treat week 17 as a bye (like last year). Lose and they have to trot out their starters against the Commanders in week 17 and every nagging bump and bruise in the wild card round will be a reminder of their incompetence.

Finishing the season with a smattering of Ws against teams that are trying to lose and an L to the last 4 consecutive teams that actually tried to win…that’s a guaranteed first round loss.

Mean week 18.

But yeah i want to win the next 2 for that same reason. I know bills have a ton to play for as a game back of broncos and New England for the 1 seed. They win out they can still get it. Should be a good game between two teams that have a lot to play for.

16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Starting to feel like a Rams Bills super bowl

Not at all

Current Super Bowl winner odds

I’d be slightly surprised as Texans have the 2nd best odds in the afv but their defense has been playing really well. Not sure i actually trust their offense in a big game.

4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

So Drew Kendall, Matt Pryor & Brett Toth were better than the starters because of Tanner McGee vs Hurts? That's your contention?

You know I'm not but cute. Point is a decisive QB in this offense with this OC runs it more efficiently than Hurts. His indecisiveness and speed making choices in this offense is holding them back this year.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Current Super Bowl winner odds

I’d be slightly surprised as Texans have the 2nd best odds in the afv but their defense has been playing really well. Not sure i actually trust their offense in a big game.

I hope everyone knows that these odds are not a prediction.

Its math designed to get the maximum number of people to bet in a certain way to maximize sports book profits.

Where would this offense be without Dallas Goedert this season? If they let him walk at the end of last season that would have been a disaster.

This offense seems to be at its best operating under center and marrying the run with playaction. Was also nice to see some crossers being utilized today to the tight ends. Hurts was a disaster last week but there were still signs of them trying some different things in the pass game that they built on today. I get it’s the Raiders but you still have to play the game and it seems like they’re at least starting to build on some offensive concepts in the passing game.

4 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Not at all

According to fan duel and DK rams are nfc favorites and bills (fan duel had bills/broncos even before the start of the broncos game now slight broncos favorite) afc. I think both conferences are wide open though.

I think afc it’s more everybody trusts Josh Allen more than all the other quarterbacks that are likely to be in the playoffs. Herbert hasn’t won a game and been awful postseason. Maye has not even played in a playoff game. Bo nix looked bad last year as a rookie in a playoff game. Stroud and Lawrence have playoff wins but they’ve also had bad games in the postseason. Ravens currently outside looking in. No one fears the Steelers.

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Where would this offense be without Dallas Goedert this season? If they let him walk at the end of last season that would have been a disaster.

This offense seems to be at its best operating under center and marrying the run with playaction. Was also nice to see some crossers being utilized today to the tight ends. Hurts was a disaster last week but there were still signs of them trying some different things in the pass game that they built on today. I get it’s the Raiders but you still have to play the game and it seems like they’re at least starting to build on some offensive concepts in the passing game.

This was the first week in a while I wasnt able to predict the first down run and where it was going, pre snap, in a while

26 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So much on the line!

Question is who will be the clear cut #1 pick? I've seen different mock drafts with different #1's.

NYG I'm guessing dont need a QB. Raiders do. They probably have different ideas about who they'd take first. There doesn't seem to be a clear cut best player in this draft.