1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Does this mean that it's time for the Lions to fire Dan Campbell? After all, he did not make the Super Bowl the season prior, he did not have as good of a record as Sirianni did in 2023, and he did not make the playoffs. He faced the same situation, did significantly worse, and last I checked the entire fanbase was saying 'what does he even do here' and that he should be fired for that! Lions also have a very good roster. Time to fire Campbell right guys?!?!?!?

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he were fired. 🤷‍♂️

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he were fired. 🤷‍♂️

Duh. We're Eagles fans. I'm just saying that based on that same logic, everyone here should feel he should be fired into the sun, if fair logic is applied. He's not going to get anywhere near as much heat as Sirianni though, because Sirianni gets a lot of heat due to past likability issues (even if he calmed down), more than anything else. But the Lions season this season is clearly worse than 2023 Eagles.

1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Does this mean that it's time for the Lions to fire Dan Campbell? After all, he did not make the Super Bowl the season prior, he did not have as good of a record as Sirianni did in 2023, and he did not make the playoffs. He faced the same situation, did significantly worse, and last I checked the entire fanbase was saying 'what does he even do here' and that he should be fired for that! Lions also have a very good roster. Time to fire Campbell right guys?!?!?!?

There’s also the people who said Ben Johnson was the real brains behind that whole operation. That once he left, the lions would see a dramatic drop off on offense and Goff would regress as Campbell was kind of living off having Ben Johnson’s play calling and offense. Meanwhile Ben Johnson has proven that in Chicago as the lions have dramatically fallen off (they put up points against bad defenses and looked awful when playing good defenses). Add on Campbell has made some idiotic decisions after taking the offensive play calling as he’s trying to do multiple things at once and he clearly isn’t equipped. I really wouldn’t be all that surprised if Campbell is fired within the next 2 years. He misses the playoffs in 2026 good chance he is

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s also the people who said Ben Johnson was the real brains behind that whole operation. That once he left, the lions would see a dramatic drop off on offense and Goff would regress as Campbell was kind of living off having Ben Johnson. Meanwhile Ben Johnson has proven that in Chicago as the lions have dramatically fallen off. Add on Campbell has made some idiotic decisions after taking the offensive play calling as he’s trying to do multiple things at once and he clearly isn’t equipped. I really wouldn’t be all that surprised if Campbell is fired within the next 2 years. He misses the playoffs in 2026 good chance he is

Yep, same kinda deal people insisted with Shane. Sirianni at least had the self-awareness to realize that not feeling like he needed to call plays was a good thing, and has avoided it since. In the Steichen era, he was more of a gameplan/design kind of guy. I just think it's interesting what you get when you apply the same standard to others.

KC being stupid. Just wasting their TO's. Let them score

48 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If I could have the NFL magically make one sole, solitary, singular change…it would be to implement an upside-down draft order for non-playoff teams.

Worst team and record in the NFL? Oops, you pick 18th.

Every win improves your draft position. Teams will stop tanking, firing coaches just to have janitors come up with the game plan, putting healthy players on IR…and they have something to play for in week 18. And before you say it…sure, maybe once every 10 years there will be an Andrew Luck / Trevor Lawrence in the draft where some team would actually consider bailing on the 7th seed to get that #1 pick…but that’s not going to be an annual occurrence with playoff births and jobs on the line.

It would completely eradicate the countless garbage football games in the last 2 weeks of the season.

There would be so much more garbage football the other 16 weeks. Think how often the Jets, Giants, Raiders, Commanders, Titans, Saints etc have been in the top 10 of the drafts the last few years and still mostly stink. Imagine their team drafting later in the first.

The sad thing about today is the Lions and Broncos have everything to play for but are struggling to do anything against bad competition.

10 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Yep, same kinda deal people insisted with Shane. Sirianni at least had the self-awareness to realize that not feeling like he needed to call plays was a good thing, and has avoided it since. In the Steichen era, he was more of a gameplan/design kind of guy. I just think it's interesting what you get when you apply the same standard to others.

I was one of the few that said Jeffrey Lurie was not firing Sirianni after 2023. That it was not happening a year removed from a SB. However i do think his seat gets awfully hot if the eagles were 1-3 going into their bye week in 2024 and they don’t get themselves going. furthermore if the eagles did what the lions did and missed the playoffs with the roster Howie constructed, im guessing lurie and howie are having deep discussions on multiple things like sirianni, hurts and what the future looks like especially with how the offense looks like

That said i also blamed sirianni and Moore together along with hurts why their passing attack was ranked 30th in the league. All of them deserved blame for how it looked at times. This year it’s not much better at 23rd. I’d argue their pass offense since Steichen has left has regressed over the last 3 years. They’ve been ranked 16th, 30th and 23rd. When Steichen they were 9th.

Lions Reddit Reaction to Current Season

Eagles Reddit Reaction to 2023

Disclaimer: NFL Reddits are pretty dumb, there's a reason why I'm on message boards still. Pretty much polar opposite response though, shows just how Eagles fans get pretty stupid when their emotions are thrown for a loop.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I was one of the few that said Jeffrey Lurie was not firing Sirianni after 2023. That it was not happening a year removed from a SB. However i do think his seat gets awfully hot if the eagles were 1-3 going into their bye week in 2024 and they don’t get themselves going.

That said i also blamed sirianni and Moore together along with hurts why their passing attack was ranked 30th in the league. All of them deserved blame for how it looked at times. This year it’s not much better at 23rd. I’d argue their pass offense since Steichen has left has regressed over the last 3 years. They’ve been ranked 16th, 30th and 23rd. When Steichen they were 9th.

Yeah, it's because passing offense is volume oriented and we don't have a volume QB. Hasn't looked that good since, and this is a hot take, but I wonder if it has something to do with Brian Johnson's work as a QB coach? Truth be told, some people just aren't good at OC roles, but can be good at position coach roles. Wonder if Johnson was kinda like that...though mind you, he never got a chance for second year adjustments.

6 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Duh. We're Eagles fans. I'm just saying that based on that same logic, everyone here should feel he should be fired into the sun, if fair logic is applied. He's not going to get anywhere near as much heat as Sirianni though, because Sirianni gets a lot of heat due to past likability issues (even if he calmed down), more than anything else. But the Lions season this season is clearly worse than 2023 Eagles.

Wouldn't really bother me if Sirianni were fired either. I don't like having to play the game where we need a new OC to fix things when he has more control... an every other year see saw dependent on finding another qualified OC...

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There would be so much more garbage football the other 16 weeks. Think how often the Jets, Giants, Raiders, Commanders, Titans, Saints etc have been in the top 10 of the drafts the last few years and still mostly stink. Imagine their team drafting later in the first.

The sad thing about today is the Lions and Broncos have everything to play for but are struggling to do anything against bad competition.

In fairness, the broncos have struggled the past with the raiders (x2), giants, commanders, titans and jets. Frankly, I think they’re the team that loses their first playoff game. If the chargers lose to the Texans Saturday then i imagine they don’t play Herbert week 18 and broncos likely get the 1 seed. Normally id say chargers would still play that game as chance to avoid the 7 seed. But really i think getting Herbert a week off from the beatings he’s taking with that OL is more important. Tbh unless you are the 5 seed facing the Steelers, with how the jags have looked lately not sure I’d rather face them over New England. I get much easier to play in Jacksonville but that team seems to be peaking at the right time and New England tends to keep teams in games

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Wouldn't really bother me if Sirianni were fired either. I don't like having to play the game where we need a new OC to fix things when he has more control... an every other year see saw dependent on finding another qualified OC...

At least you're consistent! However, it's not really Sirianni's fault for that, no other same class coach gets OCs plucked with the consistency Sirianni does, even the ones who are just as uninvolved as he is (and now late in the season, more uninvolved, since he's been getting more involved again). Hurts is actually the thing different from all the other teams with same class, not Sirianni. It's finding a way to maximize Hurts despite his notably different style from other NFL QBs that is getting people hired consistently. It's like a litmus test for versatility.

Because if that wasn't true, and it was just about control, then offensive coordinators on defensive head coach teams would get hired every year.

3 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Yeah, it's because passing offense is volume oriented and we don't have a volume QB. Hasn't looked that good since, and this is a hot take, but I wonder if it has something to do with Brian Johnson's work as a QB coach? Truth be told, some people just aren't good at OC roles, but can be good at position coach roles. Wonder if Johnson was kinda like that...though mind you, he never got a chance for second year adjustments.

We can blame it on us not being a high volume passing attack (some of that on hurts and some of that i believe is sirianni’s brief on how to win). But some of it is when you watch them all 22 they are predictable and have tendencies teams pick up on. Now, if you wanna blame that on hurts or sirianni or both i don’t really care. The all 22 does not lie and neither do the analytics in 2025.

let’s go into the predictability issue (using ringer Philly special analytics they discussed on the show this past week). The Eagles when they’re under center, rank bottom 8 in the league in rushing success. Meanwhile the eagles are in shotgun are 16th in the league. When they are under center, they have only passed roughly 18% of the time. So that is a tendency and a predictability that defenses scout and see when they lineup under center. Because you’re predictable majority of the time, defenses are going to have more success what you’re running out there. Heck it’s part of the reason why we’ve looked good passing from under center since it’s 82% chance we are running and we catch the defense.

Meanwhile, in shotgun, there are nowhere close to having only 18% out of that formation as passes. It is far more balance. Which is the reason why you’re seeing at least a little bit better run game out of shotgun. That’s predictability. It is far easier to defend a team when you know their tendencies and they are predictable with what they are doing. Last year they could get away with it a lot more due to a historic run game and elite OL run blocking. So it didn’t matter that much. This doesn’t even go into some of the other tendencies and predictability they have with the routes they are running, personnel and etc. for instance there was a stretch between lions and bears games where Shannon sharpe and ocho cinco told and showed that if AJ Brown was lined up on the left side of the line he was running one route 90% of the time.

2 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

At least you're consistent! However, it's not really Sirianni's fault for that, no other same class coach gets OCs plucked with the consistency Sirianni does, even the ones who are just as uninvolved as he is (and now late in the season, more uninvolved, since he's been getting more involved again). Hurts is actually the thing different from all the other teams with same class, not Sirianni. It's finding a way to maximize Hurts despite his notably different style from other NFL QBs that is getting people hired consistently. It's like a litmus test for versatility.

Because if that wasn't true, and it was just about control, then offensive coordinators on defensive head coach teams would get hired every year.

Well... let's keep this merry go round going then. Sounds like fun.

23 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well... let's keep this merry go round going then. Sounds like fun.

I’m curious at the end of 2026 what decisions and the direction lurie/howie goes with the offense. you are likely moving in from Aj at that point (don’t see him getting an extension at his age), goedert is likely gone, Barkley is one year more of wear and tear and closer to 30 (will be in 2027). Lane might retire at that point. Need a RG as well (granted some of this might happen prior to that point). So there is going to be a retooling and rebuild of the offense in some capacity. it’s not a complete teardown, but it it likely is going to begin to look much different. Our identity might be fully shifted to defensive first team as we build the offense back up in terms of overall talent.

It’s hard to maintain success yet alone repeat. This team hasn’t been perfect this year but they’ve battled through a lot of crap and are back in the dance.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. Bet you need better wireless cards in those babies. If you get an external streaming device like a Chromecast or apple TV that can handle the high speed internet bet that fixes your issue.

Always the weakest link that counts. TVs have crap WiFi support to keep their costs down. Much better to stream thru something else that connects via a cable to the TV. I have Apple TV but plenty of options. You can even stream directly from the router via cable to your TV.

18 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Who let Dak borrow their ring?

3 round eagles mock

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

3 round eagles mock

That works for me, as they got the needs right. Rivers might be a bit small for the outside, iirc.

On 12/23/2025 at 7:45 AM, NYEagle said:

This is not a shock at all.....The whole NFC West had a very easy schedule this year and I absolutely called the 49'ers having this many wins as their schedule was the easiest in the NFL this year. Where as the Eagles..with all their struggles and ineptitude still had the toughest schedule, 5 short weeks, not one area where they had 2 home games in a row (home, away, home, away all year) and are still 10-5. And yes, you can say that they should have lost the Rams game, but they really should have won Dallas, Chargers, Denver and Bears. It wouldn't shock me if the Eagles lost in the first round, it also wouldn't shock me if they repeated. This year especially, there is no dominant team and it seems any team can beat any team this year.

The 49ers might have had an easier schedule but did you predict they'd have as many injuries as they did this year? You gotta admit they've had a bunch of injuries, especially on defense. Easy schedule or not its still impressive to have 3 teams in a division win 11-12 games or more.

Boxing Day morning Eagles-Bills Game Score Predictions -- 52 hours until Kickoff

I'm headed out to the seaside for the next two days and won't have access to my spreadsheet, so this will be the last update with graphics until Sunday. Mini-updates from mky phone will have to suffice. But keep the predictions coming. I will "like" them as I see them.

The pendulum continues to swing toward Eagles optimism in the 29 predictions recorded thus far. 18 are for an Eagles win and 11 for a Bills win. The average predicted score is now an Eagles 22 Bills 22 tie ... headed to Overtime.

As we do each week, we are gathering Game Score predictions. As always, please tag your prediction post with @mattwill that way I will be sure to see/record it.  Score predictions can also have an optional "Bonus Pick" tiebreaker prediction.  I will be taking predictions right up until Kickoff. If someone posts a prediction without a tag, please reply to it including the @mattwill tag.

The 29 recorded predictions plus @RLC are:

10 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well... let's keep this merry go round going then. Sounds like fun.

I'm saying it's largely a result of the strange type QB, and the team success. It doesn't make sense to fire someone for success.

Let's say that we could get someone better. Cool. But if you fire him right after the Super Bowl...

Would they want to be here?
Would players want to stay here?
Would Vic want to stay here? Like let's say he thinks that's absolute BS and doesn't support organizations that treat staff that way, and so he decides he's done. What then?
What if the "better" coach is heavy on ego and wants to bring in his own guys? You have to get someone who's an upgrade enough to be a brilliant offensive mind AND is flexible?

What if the new coach isn't the greatest at managing players and just pisses people off?
What if the new coach doesn't like the QB?
What if the new coach wants an entirely different system that isn't good for Jalen?

What if he's less willing to work with Jalen's issues as a passer?

Some people think you can just toss Sirianni somewhere, all of the players will like that, all of the coaches you want to keep around will like that, and you can just pop a new offensive staff into there, change nothing else, and everything will work out. But in reality, organizations are way more complicated than that.