1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I usually side with the defense on those types of plays because I’m conditioned seeing Mahomes pull his tip-toe on the sideline routine to draw a flag BS. But the fact that they didn’t show a replay tells me that he was clearly out and hit late.

Jalen was clearly going out of bounds and the hit was unnecessary; but by the letter of the law legal, as the defender is entitled to those inches of field position.

11 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Not star treatment... oh well, star treatment is BS anyway.

The hit on Smith was worse in my estimation. No where near the play, defenseless WR, slowing up as the pass was incomplete and he gets completely wiped out on a hit that easily could have caused serious injury and concussion. The refs are a joke.

The hurts hit on the sideline is more of the officials if it’s Mahomes, Josh Allen, Burrow are getting that call. They are inconsistent about who getting that called. Frankly hurts went down but usually guys like Allen, mahomes and burrow are complaining and whining to the official and it helps get that call.

My bigger issue coming out of this game is the officials are horrific at calling pass interference. The AJ Brown one is blatant and inexcusable to miss. That may have been a TD and at worse sets the eagles up inside the 10. Meanwhile somehow they managed to see a PI on Q on Palmer on a big 3rd and long? And yet somehow they also potentially missed a pick play/OPI on bills last drive? Also, I don’t think Devonta smith’s deep shot (2nd half)should’ve been PI but if you are calling PI on Mitchell on the Palmer throw then you can probably make the case on that one to be called.

I can’t believe I’m going to say this cause we laughed at Sean Payton after that Saints/Rams NFC title game where he made it his mission in that off-season so that they could challenge pass interference. Frankly, they might need to bring that back. these officials all year have been so horrific at calling that maybe the need replay so we can get calls right particularly at critical times in the game

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Jalen was clearly going out of bounds and the hit was unnecessary; but by the letter of the law legal, as the defender is entitled to those inches of field position.

You can't tell from the replay if his right foot is already OOB or not when he is hit. They've always given the QB the benefit of the doubt in this type of situation when the QB is clearly slowing up and just at the sideline. If they want to change that precedent then announce it and do it. Otherwise, it's a penalty imho.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Jalen was clearly going out of bounds and the hit was unnecessary; but by the letter of the law legal, as the defender is entitled to those inches of field position.

Then that’s clean in my opinion. "Clearly going out of bounds” isn’t out of bounds. If that’s the case, he needs to cut it off shorter and make sure he’s definitely out of bounds if he doesn’t want to take a shot. Dart got lit up a few weeks ago trying the same thing.

Here's the situation that scares me the most with this team....

95% of the time, this defense will reduce any game into a low scoring slugfest. And this team has experience with tight games, playoff games, and gutting out wins (even this crappy offense). Those games can always go either way and their luck can certainly run out (as it did in a few regular season games), but the Eagles will always be the smart money in each one. That's not my fear.

The offense is leaving them with zero margin for error. All it takes is 1-2 plays to go sideways. A PR/KR for TD. A deep TD over Jackson (or anyone on a broken play). The capacity to recover is absent. If this team goes down 2 scores...I'm not talking 14-0; 10-0 is plenty. The game is over. This offense has zero capacity to get out of 1st gear. Gutting out a win on 1 drive when you need a FG to go up 17-14...sure. Answering a score, erasing a deficit, or keeping pace if the other team is having success on offense? No, no, and no. Absolutely, unquestionably not happening. If they end up in a hole, the game is over. And that margin of error is brutal in the playoffs.

36 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Buffalo was stacking the box, made worse by all of the tight formations. Buffalo was also blitzing a ton.

I guess Hurts didnt want to check out of run plays, because, you want to run the ball in that moment to eat clock.

The coaches, or Hurts need to realize they arent going to eat up clock by running in to a wall and going 3 and out.

Hurts needs to complete a 3rd down pass once or twice in the whole damn half. Even if its 3rd and 8. I know its scary to throw the ball that far but come on.

Hurts and Patullo are a bad combo because both are risk averse. Hurts definitely avoids throws to the middle of the field when protecting a lead. That said Hurts did have 2 should have been first down throws to Devonta that should have been caught but general idea still stands

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I saw a replay of it on Twitter. Looked like a good no call.

Bad no call.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

So that's the angle from the live broadcast and you can't tell for sure. It could just as well be that Hurts has already stepped out before the hit which would mean the letter of the law is a penalty.

In any case, they've typically called that a penalty for years when the QB is clearly slowing up and just out of bounds. If they want to change that and let QBs get hit going OOB like other players then I'd be fine with that.

It’s not definitive but he doesn’t look out to me. Contact is made when his left foot is inbounds and his right foot is in the air. The official was also on the sideline and had the best view.

I’m fine with every QB getting hit in that situation. Same when they slide late. It was 3rd and 12, a free play and he was well beyond the LOS. Fighting for an extra half yard isn’t worth it.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Bad no call.

I think when you go a full half without completing a pass the refs no longer consider you a QB and treat you as a RB going OOB.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Bad no call.

There we go. That's the angle we needed. That's clearly a penalty based on decades of how they've called it when QBs run OOB like that and are hit.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m fine with every QB getting hit in that situation. Same when they slide late. It was 3rd and 12, a free play and he was well beyond the LOS. Fighting for an extra half yard isn’t worth it.

Again, I'm fine if the league decides that's not a penalty but it has been one for 50 years when it is a QB getting that hit in that situation. It has never been a matter of whether a QB's toe is actually out or not.

Would you play starters next week?

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

You can't tell from the replay if his right foot is already OOB or not when he is hit. They've always given the QB the benefit of the doubt in this type of situation when the QB is clearly slowing up and just at the sideline. If they want to change that precedent then announce it and do it. Otherwise, it's a penalty imho.

LeanGM posted the video, I posted a freeze frame - it is what it is.

I can’t get over how bad this offensive staff is and how badly Sirianni needs a guru to run his offense for him, which is a problem in and of itself. People can say they still win 11 games but if this offense was remotely capable, this team would have won 13 or 14 and would have been far and away the best team in the NFC. Sirianni just has no answers and it’s disheartening how much he doesn’t trust his players. That’s what drives me craziest about him. He talks so much trash and talks about toughness and togetherness and how much he trusts his guys, but he coaches the exact opposite and coaches like a coward. Anything short of a Super Bowl they need a new guy to come in and do his offense for him and even with a Super Bowl they may need it anyway.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Would you play starters next week?

No.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Would you play starters next week?

Absolutely not. What did we even get from playing the starters yesterday? For everyone who says that beating a SB contender on the road is meaningful, I'd question exactly how it is meaningful.

We knew the defense was incredible. They needed rest, not reps.

Did the offense do anything they can build on? Of course not, they just reinforced to themselves, the rest of the NFL, and to us high-stress Eagles fans that they suck.

We are right where we were 24 hours ago, just with a few more bumps and bruises.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Would you play starters next week?

I would, otherwise what was the point of yesterday.

One more thing on KP and then I'm done:

If Sirianni keeps saying in post game pressers the onus is on him for the putrid offense to "get more involved" he is admitting KP isn't up to the task. Not only do we and the rest of the NFL know KP is bad, his boss knows and publicly admits it.

4 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

LeanGM posted the video, I posted a freeze frame - it is what it is.

You need to look at the vid posted by RememberTheKoy which shows the angle from the back. Just look back a few posts on this page. Hurts is out of bounds and it is absolutely a penalty.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I can’t get over how bad this offensive staff is and how badly Sirianni needs a guru to run his offense for him, which is a problem in and of itself. People can say they still win 11 games but if this offense was remotely capable, this team would have won 13 or 14 and would have been far and away the best team in the NFC. Sirianni just has no answers and it’s disheartening how much he doesn’t trust his players. That’s what drives me craziest about him. He talks so much trash and talks about toughness and togetherness and how much he trusts his guys, but he coaches the exact opposite and coaches like a coward. Anything short of a Super Bowl they need a new guy to come in and do his offense for him and even with a Super Bowl they may need it anyway.

I don't think it's a problem that a HC needs a good play caller who isn't himself but it's a problem when he doesn't have it.

What a tweet

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

One more thing on KP and then I'm done:

If Sirianni keeps saying in post game pressers the onus is on him for the putrid offense to "get more involved" he is admitting KP isn't up to the task. Not only do we and the rest of the NFL know KP is bad, his boss knows and publicly admits it.

But he's a great coach people will continue to defend

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I lean more towards blaming Hurts than Patullo, but this begs a few more question.

The 8 yard pass to AJ on 3rd and 10...need to see the rest of the field a bit better. Was that a decoy route and Hurts was supposed to go somewhere else? If so, shame on Hurts. Or are these the same routes they've been running for 2-3 years trying to get underneath a defense so they can get into 4th down tush push situations? I really don't think any coach at any level would be dumb enough to keep targeting those routes when the tush push is no longer on the table in those situations. Or maybe Patullo is that dumb. But Hurts is still pulling the trigger on a come back route by the sidelines short of the sticks that wouldn't get first down yardage against AIR. There's no point in even running the play. A draw has a better chance of getting a first down than that route and pass. The ball is literally leading him OOB 2 yards short of the sticks. It's a bad route (maybe Patullo, maybe AJ) but Hurts shouldn't be throwing the ball there either.