2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Jalen was clearly going out of bounds and the hit was unnecessary; but by the letter of the law legal, as the defender is entitled to those inches of field position.

You can't tell from the replay if his right foot is already OOB or not when he is hit. They've always given the QB the benefit of the doubt in this type of situation when the QB is clearly slowing up and just at the sideline. If they want to change that precedent then announce it and do it. Otherwise, it's a penalty imho.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Jalen was clearly going out of bounds and the hit was unnecessary; but by the letter of the law legal, as the defender is entitled to those inches of field position.

Then that’s clean in my opinion. "Clearly going out of bounds” isn’t out of bounds. If that’s the case, he needs to cut it off shorter and make sure he’s definitely out of bounds if he doesn’t want to take a shot. Dart got lit up a few weeks ago trying the same thing.

Here's the situation that scares me the most with this team....

95% of the time, this defense will reduce any game into a low scoring slugfest. And this team has experience with tight games, playoff games, and gutting out wins (even this crappy offense). Those games can always go either way and their luck can certainly run out (as it did in a few regular season games), but the Eagles will always be the smart money in each one. That's not my fear.

The offense is leaving them with zero margin for error. All it takes is 1-2 plays to go sideways. A PR/KR for TD. A deep TD over Jackson (or anyone on a broken play). The capacity to recover is absent. If this team goes down 2 scores...I'm not talking 14-0; 10-0 is plenty. The game is over. This offense has zero capacity to get out of 1st gear. Gutting out a win on 1 drive when you need a FG to go up 17-14...sure. Answering a score, erasing a deficit, or keeping pace if the other team is having success on offense? No, no, and no. Absolutely, unquestionably not happening. If they end up in a hole, the game is over. And that margin of error is brutal in the playoffs.

36 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Buffalo was stacking the box, made worse by all of the tight formations. Buffalo was also blitzing a ton.

I guess Hurts didnt want to check out of run plays, because, you want to run the ball in that moment to eat clock.

The coaches, or Hurts need to realize they arent going to eat up clock by running in to a wall and going 3 and out.

Hurts needs to complete a 3rd down pass once or twice in the whole damn half. Even if its 3rd and 8. I know its scary to throw the ball that far but come on.

Hurts and Patullo are a bad combo because both are risk averse. Hurts definitely avoids throws to the middle of the field when protecting a lead. That said Hurts did have 2 should have been first down throws to Devonta that should have been caught but general idea still stands

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I saw a replay of it on Twitter. Looked like a good no call.

Bad no call.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

So that's the angle from the live broadcast and you can't tell for sure. It could just as well be that Hurts has already stepped out before the hit which would mean the letter of the law is a penalty.

In any case, they've typically called that a penalty for years when the QB is clearly slowing up and just out of bounds. If they want to change that and let QBs get hit going OOB like other players then I'd be fine with that.

It’s not definitive but he doesn’t look out to me. Contact is made when his left foot is inbounds and his right foot is in the air. The official was also on the sideline and had the best view.

I’m fine with every QB getting hit in that situation. Same when they slide late. It was 3rd and 12, a free play and he was well beyond the LOS. Fighting for an extra half yard isn’t worth it.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Bad no call.

I think when you go a full half without completing a pass the refs no longer consider you a QB and treat you as a RB going OOB.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Bad no call.

There we go. That's the angle we needed. That's clearly a penalty based on decades of how they've called it when QBs run OOB like that and are hit.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m fine with every QB getting hit in that situation. Same when they slide late. It was 3rd and 12, a free play and he was well beyond the LOS. Fighting for an extra half yard isn’t worth it.

Again, I'm fine if the league decides that's not a penalty but it has been one for 50 years when it is a QB getting that hit in that situation. It has never been a matter of whether a QB's toe is actually out or not.

Would you play starters next week?

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

You can't tell from the replay if his right foot is already OOB or not when he is hit. They've always given the QB the benefit of the doubt in this type of situation when the QB is clearly slowing up and just at the sideline. If they want to change that precedent then announce it and do it. Otherwise, it's a penalty imho.

LeanGM posted the video, I posted a freeze frame - it is what it is.

I can’t get over how bad this offensive staff is and how badly Sirianni needs a guru to run his offense for him, which is a problem in and of itself. People can say they still win 11 games but if this offense was remotely capable, this team would have won 13 or 14 and would have been far and away the best team in the NFC. Sirianni just has no answers and it’s disheartening how much he doesn’t trust his players. That’s what drives me craziest about him. He talks so much trash and talks about toughness and togetherness and how much he trusts his guys, but he coaches the exact opposite and coaches like a coward. Anything short of a Super Bowl they need a new guy to come in and do his offense for him and even with a Super Bowl they may need it anyway.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Would you play starters next week?

No.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Would you play starters next week?

Absolutely not. What did we even get from playing the starters yesterday? For everyone who says that beating a SB contender on the road is meaningful, I'd question exactly how it is meaningful.

We knew the defense was incredible. They needed rest, not reps.

Did the offense do anything they can build on? Of course not, they just reinforced to themselves, the rest of the NFL, and to us high-stress Eagles fans that they suck.

We are right where we were 24 hours ago, just with a few more bumps and bruises.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Would you play starters next week?

I would, otherwise what was the point of yesterday.

One more thing on KP and then I'm done:

If Sirianni keeps saying in post game pressers the onus is on him for the putrid offense to "get more involved" he is admitting KP isn't up to the task. Not only do we and the rest of the NFL know KP is bad, his boss knows and publicly admits it.

4 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

LeanGM posted the video, I posted a freeze frame - it is what it is.

You need to look at the vid posted by RememberTheKoy which shows the angle from the back. Just look back a few posts on this page. Hurts is out of bounds and it is absolutely a penalty.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I can’t get over how bad this offensive staff is and how badly Sirianni needs a guru to run his offense for him, which is a problem in and of itself. People can say they still win 11 games but if this offense was remotely capable, this team would have won 13 or 14 and would have been far and away the best team in the NFC. Sirianni just has no answers and it’s disheartening how much he doesn’t trust his players. That’s what drives me craziest about him. He talks so much trash and talks about toughness and togetherness and how much he trusts his guys, but he coaches the exact opposite and coaches like a coward. Anything short of a Super Bowl they need a new guy to come in and do his offense for him and even with a Super Bowl they may need it anyway.

I don't think it's a problem that a HC needs a good play caller who isn't himself but it's a problem when he doesn't have it.

What a tweet

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

One more thing on KP and then I'm done:

If Sirianni keeps saying in post game pressers the onus is on him for the putrid offense to "get more involved" he is admitting KP isn't up to the task. Not only do we and the rest of the NFL know KP is bad, his boss knows and publicly admits it.

But he's a great coach people will continue to defend

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I lean more towards blaming Hurts than Patullo, but this begs a few more question.

The 8 yard pass to AJ on 3rd and 10...need to see the rest of the field a bit better. Was that a decoy route and Hurts was supposed to go somewhere else? If so, shame on Hurts. Or are these the same routes they've been running for 2-3 years trying to get underneath a defense so they can get into 4th down tush push situations? I really don't think any coach at any level would be dumb enough to keep targeting those routes when the tush push is no longer on the table in those situations. Or maybe Patullo is that dumb. But Hurts is still pulling the trigger on a come back route by the sidelines short of the sticks that wouldn't get first down yardage against AIR. There's no point in even running the play. A draw has a better chance of getting a first down than that route and pass. The ball is literally leading him OOB 2 yards short of the sticks. It's a bad route (maybe Patullo, maybe AJ) but Hurts shouldn't be throwing the ball there either.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

I don't think it's a problem that a HC needs a good play caller who isn't himself but it's a problem when he doesn't have it.

He needs more than just a good play caller. Sirianni is a bad game planner and a bad schemer and he needs to be completely removed from any and all offensive influence and that won't happen unless a highly respected OC is brought in and given full autonomy. Sirianni is the biggest issue with this offense and that won't change as long as his buddy is here as OC.

Does anyone else notice that Dotson seems not to understand where to line up or run the wrong route at least once a game.

I can see why WAS gave him up for a third. He shows his receiving skills when the ball goes his way, but doesn't seem to seem to know how to play.