Its just insane that everyone is pretending that Hunt isn't in the throwing lane to make that completion difficult.

Could Allen have still made the throw? Probably. But it was not a wide open guy. Hunt is blocking the throw.

Just watch the replay and watch where Hunt is and where the ball needs to go.

Good D call by Fangio to flood the area.

Allen had to make a perfect pass to his target, not just lay it in there. Hunt knocks down a lay it in there.

A lob gives the D time to recover.

If you are a brainless shouty show TV moron then you can ignore Hunt. Be better.

The Dunning Kruger Crowd thinks they get to laugh at Josh Allen if they just look at Shakir and where the ball goes.

Just a reminder, we have a top-5 defense with Jackson at CB2. Upgrade next season? Sure. But not a priority to use valuable draft resources.

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They bubble-wrapped him yesterday. No designed runs.

As frustrated as I am with that game form an offensive standpoint and re-watching it, them not running him felt like they didn’t want to use everything in their bag to avoid injuries but still try to win that game. I think in a playoff game they’re probably using more empty sets and having him run a lot more.

17 weeks in and we’re still discussing the terrible offense.

7 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

It’s not merely on hurts. As a hurts hater myself, even Stevie wonder can see the play calling is absolutely atrocious

Not merely, but a big, big part. If we can bring in Jesus to design the offense, I'll go ahead and ask him to throw the ball too.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just a reminder, we have a top-5 defense with Jackson at CB2. Upgrade next season? Sure. But not a priority to use valuable draft resources.

I mentioned a couple weeks back, I would actually be OK if they went into free agency and signed a guy like Newsome who is still young. And I don’t think he’s gonna be very expensive. He is good enough in my opinion to be a good second corner. Pff doesn’t grade him highly this year but the jags defense has played very well down the stretch.

4 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Hopefully we find out he was concussed prior to his Special Teams "moment".

The hardest thing for me to figure out continues to be "is Michael Clay actually good at his job?”

We’ll see some stretches of good to great ST’s. And then we’ll see just the absolutely dumbest things you can think of. I still can’t get over last year when Rodgers pushed the gunner into Cooper DeJean who was trying to field the punt and Rodgers afterwards said he thought it was a "savvy veteran move”.

1 minute ago, Eriv20 said:

17 weeks in and we’re still discussing the terrible offense.

As opposed to half of the teams in the league discussing the upcoming draft.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

As frustrated as I am with that game form an offensive standpoint and re-watching it, them not running him felt like they didn’t want to use everything in their bag to avoid injuries but still try to win that game. I think in a playoff game they’re probably using more empty sets and having him run a lot more.

I go back to a quote early in the season that the OC was saving some plays for later in the season. With so much at stake in December, I really hope that imbecile is not saving pieces for the playoffs to prevent injuries or game tape. At this point in the season especially in wintery conditions, it is all about execution not shelving plays.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The only thing that worries me with the defense is whether or not they’re gonna get rundown because of the offense. Even in the Rams game this year, that kind of happened and they got put in bad positions because of the offense. Also, like the Bears game, I think they were just gas from having to play the amount of players they did and yet somehow they still managed to keep the bears to 24 points

Some of us had a discussion last night about the 2000 ravens and they were able to win a SB even with Trent Dilfer and an average offense (for lack of better words). The difference between the 2000 ravens and the Eagles this year (imo that defense may have been more dominant), is the ravens down the stretch of that season got Jamal Lewis playing at his best. His last 8 games of that season he was averaging 116 yards a game and 4.6 yards per carry. That defense was incredible, but the reason why they were able to sustain that level of play was because they weren’t getting worn down as Lewis was keeping the offense in the field and not having halves of 1 st and 20 yards. imo the Eagles have more talent on offense than that ravens team, and a better passing game. However, the ravens offense, even with the talent deficiencies they have compared to the 2025 eagle was able to at least move the ball somewhat consistently to give the defense time off to sustain their excellence.

First, that's why I sit everyone week 18, 2 seed be damned. This defense needs a break. Plus, the backups might beat Washington. Added bonus - if McKee lights up Washington, WIP will be hilarious with calls to bench Hurts all week (never forget the push for Sudfeld over Foles in 2017).

Second, I think/hope/pray Lane coming back is a force multiplier for the offensive line. Get Fred back as the 6th OL, and look to run behind Lane and a pulling Cam/Landon to the right.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

As opposed to half of the teams in the league discussing the upcoming draft.

And the best part of this weird year....every team in the playoff hunt is flawed with major weaknesses. It isn't just the Eagles trying to figure things out at this point.

50 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Josh makes that throw "100 out of 100 times," other than the play that just happened.

Orlovsky's need to slurp his favorites is really tiresome. Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Stafford, etc. are never to blame. Maybe he was frantic because our defensive line beat the hell out of him?

I mean ... this is a clip in which he broke down a series of plays in which Josh Allen messed up....

Got nothing.

🦅🫣🏈😬😎

3 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

17 weeks in and we’re still discussing the terrible offense.

We can discuss the awesome defense instead. GB, LAR, SF... all McVay/Shanahan offenses that Vic seems to scheme against well.

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

They aren't firing Sirriani. That's silly. His results have been historical. There are quite a few OC's who became head coach at the same or even after that are long gone. Even the best of them not named Reid haven't won more than one championship themselves at best. It's an obsession of this board to get the next McVay but those guys are very hard to find and quite frankly this board takes shots at McVay too

McVay has been to 2 SBs and won 1, which is the same as Sirianni, in less time too I might add. McVay has also had stacked, talented teams and good coordinators. Let's not act like he runs everything on the Rams.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It wasn't exactly luck. DeJean was immediately in his backfield with another DL coming.

They flushed him out. Pressure resulted in a bad pass.

20 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

The eagles won’t be this lucky in playoffs.

I know it's semantics, but I like to think of it more as sustainability/repeatability than luck. When I say luck, I'm implying they didn't deserve to win. (And the Eagles, as a team, deserved this win). But blocked kicks, an F-it let's get it over with failed 2pt conversion...I do question how sustainable that pathway to a win is.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The hardest thing for me to figure out continues to be "is Michael Clay actually good at his job?”

We’ll see some stretches of good to great ST’s. And then we’ll see just the absolutely dumbest things you can think of. I still can’t get over last year when Rodgers pushed the gunner into Cooper DeJean who was trying to field the punt and Rodgers afterwards said he thought it was a "savvy veteran move”.

STs are comprised of many good athletes, some of whom aren't starters because of the cerebral aspects of the game. Remember that when observing their play.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

As frustrated as I am with that game form an offensive standpoint and re-watching it, them not running him felt like they didn’t want to use everything in their bag to avoid injuries but still try to win that game. I think in a playoff game they’re probably using more empty sets and having him run a lot more.

I also wonder if playing on turf was a consideration at all. But they lost Jalen to a concussion in week 16 last year on a run, and he got hurt on a run in 2022 in Chicago. I get wanting to protect him with very little on the line in weeks 17 and 18.

The most important player on the Eagles for the last 10 years or so, hopefully comes back for the 1st playoff game. Domino effect and a force multiplier when he's in there. Not to take anything away from Fred who's doing a nice job filling in. But this is a whole different dynamic for this offense when he's in there. In the run game and in the pass game. And with Hurts in the pocket. Looking forward to his return. I'll take an 80% Lane Johnson right now.

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just a reminder, we have a top-5 defense with Jackson at CB2. Upgrade next season? Sure. But not a priority to use valuable draft resources.

Well, the cap money, recently, has been poured into extensions on offense (extensions we'd mostly prefer to undo) while the majority of prime draft picks have been defensive players (with great success).

That means draft picks need to be offense and cap allocation needs to be defense now. So I agree...unless the way the board breaks absolutely drops an elite CB prospect into their lap, I'd say CB should not be a round 1-2 priority given the shot in the arm the offense is going to need.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

I also wonder if playing on turf was a consideration at all. But they lost Jalen to a concussion in week 16 last year on a run, and he got hurt on a run in 2022 in Chicago. I get wanting to protect him with very little on the line in weeks 17 and 18.

This

They were playing on a slip and slide.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I know it's semantics, but I like to think of it more as sustainability/repeatability than luck. When I say luck, I'm implying they didn't deserve to win. (And the Eagles, as a team, deserved this win). But blocked kicks, an F-it let's get it over with failed 2pt conversion...I do question how sustainable that pathway to a win is.

yup...if anything the Bills were extremely lucky...they benefitted greatly from three big plays. A questionable long DPI call against Q and two David Tyree-like helmet catches late in the game...those were like career defining catches in those weather conditions...that was unreal. I won't even get into the non-calls especially the deliberate OPI in the endzone when a WR absolutely crushed Epps on a pick freeing Knox for the potential winning TD...

3 minutes ago, shlo said:

I mean ... this is a clip in which he broke down a series of plays in which Josh Allen messed up....

The point is they refuse to give any credit to the Eagles defense. You sack a guy 5 times and hit him a bunch more, you're going to impact him (See Mahomes, Patrick in Super Bowl 59). Add in that Allen has never been a superb game manager who takes what's there as opposed to trying to be Superman, and it's not even shocking that he made some mistakes.

Don't worry -- Dan will be back to saying Josh is basically Jesus by Wednesday.

2 of the greatest run pass combo QBs of all-time run for

27 rushing and -52 on scrambles / sacks with several throw-aways.

5 rushing and -2 on sacks with a bunch of throw-aways.

And you want to pick the +3 guy out for some evil conspiracy of hating winning and not trying hard enough but the -25 guy just had a tough day?

CULT

This one was for Slay!