1 minute ago, aptosbird said:

yup...if anything the Bills were extremely lucky...they benefitted greatly from three big plays. A questionable long DPI call against Q and two David Tyree-like helmet catches late in the game...those were like career defining catches in those weather conditions...that was unreal. I won't even get into the non-calls especially the deliberate OPI in the endzone when a WR absolutely crushed Epps on a pick freeing Knox for the potential winning TD...

One massive positive from yesterday -- that's a game that the Eagles lose in basically every other year. When the opponent starts getting momentum and you can just feel it coming -- think Atlanta and Washington last year, Arizona in 2023, even Denver and Dallas this year. All the 2023 redux concerns are mute - despite all that, somehow the defense was able to hang on.

I'm just shocked that McDermott had his already injured QB run TWO tush pushes yesterday. Almost like he doesn't actually care about the safety aspect of the play.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

STs are comprised of many good athletes, some of whom aren't starters because of the cerebral aspects of the game. Remember that when observing their play.

Yea, I get that. It’s just some of this stuff is high school level. Latu had no business touching the ball at all and should know that. It should be the basics in coaching situational plays. In Rodgers case, him thinking it was a savvy move screams he had no understanding of the rules at all. Clay said he had to remind Rodgers of the rules after the game. Sirianni also got the closest he may have ever gotten to calling out players publicly by saying they are picking that flag up every single time and he should know better.

The occasional gaffe is to be expected but sometimes it goes to the extreme. Even Ojomos leverage call a few weeks ago is another example. It was one of the most blatant leverage penalties in a long while and in a terrible situation as it was 4th and 2 and a long FG.

I doubt anyone is interested, but at the moment I have two tickets to the Washington game for sale. I’ll sell them at face value. Hit me with a message if you care.

Rolling into the post season…

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Well, the cap money, recently, has been poured into extensions on offense (extensions we'd mostly prefer to undo) while the majority of prime draft picks have been defensive players (with great success).

That means draft picks need to be offense and cap allocation needs to be defense now. So I agree...unless the way the board breaks absolutely drops an elite CB prospect into their lap, I'd say CB should not be a round 1-2 priority given the shot in the arm the offense is going to need.

A lot of people have been saying this, and I think it makes some sense. But I still consider CB2 the biggest need on this team followed by TE and some OL help, and DE depth. Safety could be a need too if Blankeship is gone. But here's the flip side... where do we have room on offense for a young player to get a chance to play? RT is the spot that most needs to be addressed as Lane Johnson is getting up there. Tight end obviously needs to be addressed. After that? Jurgens and Dickerson have been terrible, but recently signed extensions. I think the Eagles have to assume/hope this is a result of being banged up and they'll be better next year.

Also, I don't have much confidence in this coaching staff to coach up the talent they have on offense, which makes me consider doubling down on the defense and shoring up whatever holes they have.

2 minutes ago, NCTANK said:

Rolling into the post season…

It's so impressive that the defense is as good as it is when the offense puts them right back on the field at the highest rate in the NFL.

I think this is the cost of not turning ball over. On 3rd and 8+, the Eagles don't really try to convert. They just take a draw or a 5 yard pass. Those are the most turnover prone plays and that's why we keep those numbers low. But if you never really try to convert on 3rd and long, that's why their 3 and out % is so abysmal.

I say this half in jest, but with this approach, they might as well teach Hurts how to quick kick a rolling punt on 3rd down.

Siri in his PC last night repeatedly said he has to help in the 2nd half play calling. Sal asked if that's real time when plays are being called. Siri said it's not possible, if he heard the play call and disagreed and told KP to change it, there wouldn't be enough time to get the play call in. He said he needs to discuss with KP between series. Reading between the lines, he seemed to not be happy with KP's play calling and that he has to be more involved. However, Nick also said over and over how great it is to get a win on the road in a hostile environment, like he's always saying it's hard to win in the NFL, hard to win division, etc. and he said he feels great about the win.

I would consider sitting the entire defense (they earned it) and playing the offensive starters, at least for awhile.

Maybe with the backups in on defense, Washington will score some and get a lead. This will force the offense to play more aggressively to catch up. They cant just rely on the defense to hold opposing offenses in check.

1 minute ago, shlo said:

A lot of people have been saying this, and I think it makes some sense. But I still consider CB2 the biggest need on this team followed by TE and some OL help, and DE depth. Safety could be a need too if Blankeship is gone. But here's the flip side... where do we have room on offense for a young player to get a chance to play? RT is the spot that most needs to be addressed as Lane Johnson is getting up there. Tight end obviously needs to be addressed. After that? Jurgens and Dickerson have been terrible, but recently signed extensions. I think the Eagles have to assume/hope this is a result of being banged up and they'll be better next year.

Also, I don't have much confidence in this coaching staff to coach up the talent they have on offense, which makes me consider doubling down on the defense and shoring up whatever holes they have.

After 2026, you're likely moving on from 4 starters on offense -- AJ, Barkley, Lane and Steen (and losing DG after this year potentially). Neither AJ nor Barkley have any substantial guaranteed money in 2027, so they'll need to be extended after the season or we move on, and I can't see them extending either guy. Lane I think plays one more year and is done, and Steen will be a FA. Mailata also is out of guarantees and Jalen only has a partial guarantee for 2027. So we need to start spening draft capital on eventual replacements at RT, RG, WR, TE and RB to start. The transition will begin this offseason as cap dollars shift to defense (Carter, Davis, maybe Phillips), and youth will need to be injected on offense. Need to look a couple years down the road.

20 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

First, that's why I sit everyone week 18, 2 seed be damned. This defense needs a break. Plus, the backups might beat Washington. Added bonus - if McKee lights up Washington, WIP will be hilarious with calls to bench Hurts all week (never forget the push for Sudfeld over Foles in 2017).

Second, I think/hope/pray Lane coming back is a force multiplier for the offensive line. Get Fred back as the 6th OL, and look to run behind Lane and a pulling Cam/Landon to the right.

Tbh i don’t know if i fully trust lane making it through 4 playoff games with that injury. I know he’s super tough and he’ll try his damn best but that injury usually ends seasons and requires surgery (going to for him). I am trying to be optimistic about it but i wouldn’t be surprised if he makes it to the end but also wouldn’t be shocked if he plays a half and doesn’t return to the game. But like you pointed out it would be very nice using Fred as the 6th OL.

Barkley and Mailata weren't happy with the offense in the 2nd half. Both said they defer to what the coaches call and they have to execute. Reading between the lines on those, sounds like they're not happy with the coaching either.

Mailata also expressed how he's personally never satisfied even in a win if he doesn't dominate and execute to his standard, which is similar to what AJ Brown has said. Reporter asked Mailata about Siri saying it's great to get a win and he said he doesn't see it that way, that he wants to dominate. That the O line position is about technique and execution, and he truly believes they can be one good block away from a successful play, so from his perspective if plays aren't successful he's looking at himself and the line, how they could have executed better. He deferred discussion of scheme and play calling to the coaches, but it does sound like he's not liking the play calling, which he also alluded to other times this season.

2 minutes ago, shlo said:

A lot of people have been saying this, and I think it makes some sense. But I still consider CB2 the biggest need on this team followed by TE and some OL help, and DE depth. Safety could be a need too if Blankeship is gone. But here's the flip side... where do we have room on offense for a young player to get a chance to play? RT is the spot that most needs to be addressed as Lane Johnson is getting up there. Tight end obviously needs to be addressed. After that? Jurgens and Dickerson have been terrible, but recently signed extensions. I think the Eagles have to assume/hope this is a result of being banged up and they'll be better next year.

Also, I don't have much confidence in this coaching staff to coach up the talent they have on offense, which makes me consider doubling down on the defense and shoring up whatever holes they have.

RT: unless you're lucky enough to get a top-10 talent, they need time to develop; given that Lane is chronically injured, a 1st round pick will likely get some PT as a rookie.

RG: probably worth a Day 2 pick, as an eventual replacement of Steen and will likely get some PT because Landon is chronically injured.

TE: yes, Goedert will take the $ somewhere like Sweat did.

DE: yup, I'm thinking a bigger one to fill the BG role.

S: no middle class, sorry Reed. Hello Epps + another rookie.

CB2: roll the dice, might get Ringo 2.0 might get a player.

WR: good draft for it

We don't identify as Hurts Lovers. We are just Eagles fans who really like all the winning. (its a lot of winning)

Foles is a demigod of must have games. He is my 2nd favorite Eagle also for the winning.

You all identify as Hurts Haters because you are in a cult.

There is a solo cult of 1 Jason Kelce Hater. We oppose him too without being Kelce Lovers, just Eagles fans.

He is almost never boring. He brings it up once every few months for like 2 posts and moves on.

FWIW most people who really dislike McNabb grew to dislike him after the SB and his continued 2 turnovers every playoff game from that point. His back to back games vs the Cowboys to end his Philly career might be the low point of the 2000s Eagles. 1 TD in most of 2 games. Vick had 1 TD in 3 plays. We were not big on his RONDE! throw or his fumble vs St Louis or his 3 picks when he got physically abused vs Carolina but we stuck with him.

Also the McNabb "hate" is really just constantly putting him in the correct perspective.

People want to make AR or the rest of those teams worse than they were to praise McNabb.

You can disagree with facts and reality.

I was not even aware of his pick in the end zone to lose the game after 4th and 26 that the Packer dropped.

I don't recall realizing how hideous that throw was when it was live. They may not have even shown a replay.

Maybe we were conditioned to always blame Pinkston?

Jim Kelly having 20 TDs to 28 picks in the playoffs does not mean I hate Jim Kelly. Its reality.

Peyton Manning having 1-and-dones with teams that went:

13-3

10-6

10-6

14-2

13-3

12-4

10-6

13-3

12-4 (6 of these 9 were home games in a dome or while breathing more oxygen than the other team)

is not hate. Its reality to help you properly rank him well below Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and Mahomes.

35 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just a reminder, we have a top-5 defense with Jackson at CB2. Upgrade next season? Sure. But not a priority to use valuable draft resources.

I will be fine if they just go OL and TE in the first three rounds.

@AmericanEagle77
I agree with everything in your last few posts. BUT, some of us see what the talent on this offense is capable of. And we see an OC holding them back with horrendous play calling. I think Patullo is a good coach. I don't think Sirianni could or would keep his friend employed and promoted to OC if he wasn't a good coach. But play calling is an art in and of itself. Sirianni was bad at it before he handed it to Steichen who was very good at it. Then it was given to Brian Johnson, another good coach very bad at play calling. Kellen Moore is good at it. Patullo is simply the worst. Can he get better ... sure. But the analogy is Sirianni handed a championship F1 car and team to a rookie driver who last year was racing in KART. Or was a member of the design crew.

We've seen what this talent can do. With this defense, they should be coasting to another SB. And windows don't stay open for ever. They wasted a year with Brian Johnson, You'd think that was a lesson learned. But they went and did it again with Patullo. I am hoping ... beyond hope .. that the first half of yesterday and the previous couple of games is an indication that he's been sand bagging. It's a grasp at straws born of frustration.

FWIW

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

FWIW

Imagine foaming at the mouth in hate at your QB because of those 7 plays, lol

7 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

RT: unless you're lucky enough to get a top-10 talent, they need time to develop; given that Lane is chronically injured, a 1st round pick will likely get some PT as a rookie.

RG: probably worth a Day 2 pick, as an eventual replacement of Steen and will likely get some PT because Landon is chronically injured.

TE: yes, Goedert will take the $ somewhere like Sweat did.

DE: yup, I'm thinking a bigger one to fill the BG role.

S: no middle class, sorry Reed. Hello Epps + another rookie.

CB2: roll the dice, might get Ringo 2.0 might get a player.

WR: good draft for it

Makuba at S is still in play. I know he sometimes is a bad tackler but has a good nose for the football.

1 minute ago, manz2821 said:

Makuba at S is still in play. I know he sometimes is a bad tackler but has a good nose for the football.

I think Mukuba and <insert journeyman, Epps?> will start next season, but they'll draft a safety to be the eventual replacement at SS.

31 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

One massive positive from yesterday -- that's a game that the Eagles lose in basically every other year. When the opponent starts getting momentum and you can just feel it coming -- think Atlanta and Washington last year, Arizona in 2023, even Denver and Dallas this year. All the 2023 redux concerns are mute - despite all that, somehow the defense was able to hang on.

For sure. Luck is part of every game to a degree, but he had someone wide open at the end and even though he was under pressure he should have made that throw. We got lucky, but the defense did hang on and do enough to win including blocking the XP.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I think Mukuba and <insert journeyman, Epps?> will start next season, but they'll draft a safety to be the eventual replacement at SS.

I think Vic is going to pound the table for Reed, and he won't cost all that much.

3 minutes ago, shlo said:

A lot of people have been saying this, and I think it makes some sense. But I still consider CB2 the biggest need on this team followed by TE and some OL help, and DE depth. Safety could be a need too if Blankeship is gone. But here's the flip side... where do we have room on offense for a young player to get a chance to play? RT is the spot that most needs to be addressed as Lane Johnson is getting up there. Tight end obviously needs to be addressed. After that? Jurgens and Dickerson have been terrible, but recently signed extensions. I think the Eagles have to assume/hope this is a result of being banged up and they'll be better next year.

Also, I don't have much confidence in this coaching staff to coach up the talent they have on offense, which makes me consider doubling down on the defense and shoring up whatever holes they have.

I hear you. Everyone tries to distill the draft into a single philosophy or formula, but the reality is that for every GM (good ones, bad ones, and in between) is that every premium draft pick is the best available player at a position they'd be willing to add/improve.

My preference would be RT, RG, TE, and then CB...in that order. But if the offensive guys are all flawed and the CB is a stud...a good draft pick at a position of lesser need sure beats a bust.

13 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Brutal? I saw more "brutal” action in junior high football in Texas as a "tween”. That’s barely a slap. Deacon Jones would laugh at that characterization.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

I think Vic is going to pound the table for Reed, and he won't cost all that much.

I wouldn't be upset, and I'd certainly do that before resigning Nakobe - but the offense is expensive and we got a lot of DLmen to pay (and CBs after that).