13 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Those can be treated non-surgically, but often end up requiring surgery anyway.

Its not a known thing, but he will likely get surgery in the offseason so they can ensure the joint is stable and not going to become prematurely arthritic.

And will be a more sure thing to hold up if he plays another season.

I believe there was a beat reporter who said it was highly likely he was getting surgery after the season. I want to say it was Berman

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't know how, but the Eagles are gonna have to find a way to sign Phillips, Carter, and Davis.

And Dean. You can't lose Dean. I don't care that they have Baun, and I certainly don't care they have Campbell. Dean and Campbell couldn't be more different players.

I'm standing by that the best move for the team overall, even though I hate it, is to move Jalen Carter in a blockbuster trade while keeping Jordan Davis and Moro Ojomo.

The Eagles either sign Jordan Davis or they accept the fact that they only get a 3rd round comp pick for him. Those are the only 2 outcomes. They have no more control over him.

With Jalen Carter however, they control whatever they want with him. They don't have to accept just a comp pick. They can bring in a haul for him.

Quinnen Williams brought back a 1st, 2nd and a starting DT.

Micah Parsons brought back 2 1st round picks and a starting DT.

And that's with Jerry Jones at the wheel. Imagine what Howie could do with a trade.

To keep this team together for the long term, trading Jalen Carter is the best thing for them to do. It keeps more money in the Eagles pocket to use across the defense. Mitchell and DeJean are not going to be cheap and you can't lose them both.

If Carter can bring back 2 1sts and another starter, imagine what those picks could do. You could rebuild the OL much quicker. You could build a deep, young WR room.

Watching Carter wreck opposing teams is a treat. He changed the game yesterday. Jordan Davis has done the same. Give me Davis, cap room and high draft picks over Jalen Carter's massive contract.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Can afford him, smith and hunt in 2026. It’s really 2027 offseason have to make a decision as smith is on 5th year option and hunt entering his last year of his deal. If you pay Phillips then likely can only keep hunt or Nolan smith long term. I brought this up a couple weeks back. I made the argument the eagles may go with hunt over smith. He is just scratching the surface of the position. He made the transition to the position and he can keep improving. As much as i love Nolan smith, he has not been extremely durable since college. While he still has upside, i kind of think hunt has more ceiling and is really beginning to take off.

Yep. Nolan Smith is another trade chip over the next 2 years. Keeping 2 of the 3 is important and Smith, as much as I love him, is the odd man out.

17 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Jurgens was pretty damn good last year. Need to see how he looks next year after an offseason of strength training and not rehabbing. If it’s like this, then that’s trouble. But there’s a reasonable chance he’s a new player.

Unlike Dickerson, he doesn’t look like he’s in pain out there.

I agree, they just gave him a hefty extension too, they're not benching him unless he has an injury. I do think he is playing hurt which is hindering his performance, but maybe that's more hoping. He will get next year, but if he doesn't play well then we hopefully look for a new center the year after.

Not sure what the deal is with LS. Seems like roster manipulation but not sure what makes sense.

Can we get a breakdown on the Ten 2025 QBs who have been good by an objective measure? (better than 33 TDs to 10 turnovers)

Stafford is offensive player of the year / MVP so you get him as (1) who was better on the field in 2025.

But he also tanked his team as often if not more than Hurts. (Carolina, Seattle x2, SF, Philly)

I will give you Allen (2) at 39 TDs to 13 turnovers. He was awful vs (Philly, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami)

I will give you Maye at (3) maybe?

He has played 11 teams with a losing record this year. 2 more at .500

He has 24 TDs to 5 picks in those 12 games.

He has 4 TDs to 1 pick vs 8-8 teams (Carolina and Baltimore)

His only 3 games vs winning record teams were the Bills and Steelers. He has 2 TD passes and 1 pick. He lost 2 of 3 games.

He did run for 2 TDs and 100 yards vs 12 sacks for -36 yards. He fumbled vs Pittsburgh.

MVP consideration. 🤣

Lets just say facing Houston, Denver, Jacksonville, or even the Chargers is going to be very different for him.

Does Trevor Lawrence get more credit because his 6 good games are recent? Hes got 35 TDs to 15 turnovers

Are Purdy's 23 TDs and 11 turnovers in 8 games better than Hurt's 33 and 10 in 16 games?

Was Goff (33 to 12) better than Hurts this year? 🤣 Goff is 1-4 in his own division. He was wetting his pants vs Philly.

Lamar(20 to 9), Love (23 to 8), Jones(24 to 12) , Dak Stats (32 to 11)?

Dak was 1-5-1 vs playoff teams. The 1 win was WR push-off fest BS on Thanksgiving.

What exactly is the objective measure if its not wins, TD to INT, total TDs to turnovers, or passer rating?

If you grade every QB on a curve was this offense more or less dysfunctional around him than most other teams?

QBR? 🤡

DVOA

EP per play?

Are you going to pretend that you understand any of that or that the people who push them do?

Maybe this is the year that only 3 QBs were good? That's kind of a weird grading system.

47 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

And Dean. You can't lose Dean. I don't care that they have Baun, and I certainly don't care they have Campbell. Dean and Campbell couldn't be more different players.

I'm standing by that the best move for the team overall, even though I hate it, is to move Jalen Carter in a blockbuster trade while keeping Jordan Davis and Moro Ojomo.

The Eagles either sign Jordan Davis or they accept the fact that they only get a 3rd round comp pick for him. Those are the only 2 outcomes. They have no more control over him.

With Jalen Carter however, they control whatever they want with him. They don't have to accept just a comp pick. They can bring in a haul for him.

Quinnen Williams brought back a 1st, 2nd and a starting DT.

Micah Parsons brought back 2 1st round picks and a starting DT.

And that's with Jerry Jones at the wheel. Imagine what Howie could do with a trade.

To keep this team together for the long term, trading Jalen Carter is the best thing for them to do. It keeps more money in the Eagles pocket to use across the defense. Mitchell and DeJean are not going to be cheap and you can't lose them both.

If Carter can bring back 2 1sts and another starter, imagine what those picks could do. You could rebuild the OL much quicker. You could build a deep, young WR room.

Watching Carter wreck opposing teams is a treat. He changed the game yesterday. Jordan Davis has done the same. Give me Davis, cap room and high draft picks over Jalen Carter's massive contract.

We are definitely going to have to trade guys or just accept 3rd round or lower comp picks. Personally, unless Carter's shoulders turn out to be something really bad, I'd keep him and trade Davis. We have Davis under contract through 2026. We have time to decide.

I agree that we need to resign Dean. With Smith, I think you activate his 5th year option and either trade or let him walk after 5th year. If he doesn't explode with lots of sacks I think he might bring back a 3rd round pick, but I also recognize that could be wishful thinking.

31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Rumor has it Charlie was approached about resting starters week 18. He responded with "I don’t give a ish about rest. I don’t play for that. My job is to be the best long snapper in the world, and that’s what I focus on everyday.”

Charlie told Sirianni that he wanted to leave the facility once informed of the decision. Sirianni agreed.

"He’s talking about getting "I’d like to get out of here” and I said ‘Yeah. Get out of here’ and so he took off”

Jalen Hurts only has 50 career snaps where his team was no longer in playoff contention.

Dak Prescott had 93 Thursday alone

18 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Can we get a breakdown on the Ten 2025 QBs who have been good by an objective measure? (better than 33 TDs to 10 turnovers)

Stafford is offensive player of the year / MVP so you get him as (1) who was better on the field in 2025.

But he also tanked his team as often if not more than Hurts. (Carolina, Seattle x2, SF, Philly)

I will give you Allen (2) at 39 TDs to 13 turnovers. He was awful vs (Philly, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami)

I will give you Maye at (3) maybe?

He has played 11 teams with a losing record this year. 2 more at .500

He has 24 TDs to 5 picks in those 12 games.

He has 4 TDs to 1 pick vs 8-8 teams (Carolina and Baltimore)

His only 3 games vs winning record teams were the Bills and Steelers. He has 2 TD passes and 1 pick. He lost 2 of 3 games.

He did run for 2 TDs and 100 yards vs 12 sacks for -36 yards. He fumbled vs Pittsburgh.

MVP consideration. 🤣

Lets just say facing Houston, Denver, Jacksonville, or even the Chargers is going to be very different for him.

Does Trevor Lawrence get more credit because his 6 good games are recent? Hes got 35 TDs to 15 turnovers

Are Purdy's 23 TDs and 11 turnovers in 8 games better than Hurt's 33 and 10 in 16 games?

Was Goff (33 to 12) better than Hurts this year? 🤣 Goff is 1-4 in his own division. He was wetting his pants vs Philly.

Lamar(20 to 9), Love (23 to 8), Jones(24 to 12) , Dak Stats (32 to 11)?

Dak was 1-5-1 vs playoff teams. The 1 win was WR push-off fest BS on Thanksgiving.

What exactly is the objective measure if its not wins, TD to INT, total TDs to turnovers, or passer rating?

If you grade every QB on a curve was this offense more or less dysfunctional around him than most other teams?

QBR? 🤡

DVOA

EP per play?

Are you going to pretend that you understand any of that or that the people who push them do?

Maybe this is the year that only 3 QBs were good? That's kind of a weird grading system.

Every starting QB in the NFL who didn't get hurt and wasn't a rookie managed to be more prolific in the air than Hurts this year. Is that good?

36 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Not sure what the deal is with LS. Seems like roster manipulation but not sure what makes sense.

Either someone was put on waivers today they want to claim and get Hughlett to the PS in-time for practice Wednesday or they want to sign Adomitis back off the Steelers PS.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Can afford him, smith and hunt in 2026. It’s really 2027 offseason have to make a decision as smith is on 5th year option and hunt entering his last year of his deal. If you pay Phillips then likely can only keep hunt or Nolan smith long term. I brought this up a couple weeks back. I made the argument the eagles may go with hunt over smith. He is just scratching the surface of the position. He made the transition to the position and he can keep improving. As much as i love Nolan smith, he has not been extremely durable since college. While he still has upside, i kind of think hunt has more ceiling and is really beginning to take off.

I feel like Smith and Hunt have a longer, cleaner runway than Phillips. I know he's the more complete player right now, but he's the one I'd let walk.

48 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Not sure what the deal is with LS. Seems like roster manipulation but not sure what makes sense.

Probably going to sign him to the practice squad and then elevate him for the game…and perhaps do the same during the playoffs. That way they can clear a roster spot for Cameron Williams so that he can play against Washington.

And if Hughlett were claimed on waivers, you sign Adomitis again.

5 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just a reminder, we have a top-5 defense with Jackson at CB2. Upgrade next season? Sure. But not a priority to use valuable draft resources.

I'd go as high as a 3rd rounder depending on how the board falls.

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

I think Hurts also deserves blame, but so does the O line, the coaches for putting out the walking wounded out of pride/stubborness, Stoutland University isn't what it used to be, the run game, the WR routes, the WR drops, the refs...there's a lot of reasons. A lot of it can be fixed by coaching. If Kellen Moore would have returned we'd have a better offense, and the #1 seed.

He probably does but honestly the game plan is so piss poor I can't even really tell if I'm being honest. It's like judging Saquon as a runner based on this years stats. Like yeah maybe he's lost a step but how the F would you know with all these bunched predictable run plays behind poor run blocking? It's infuriating.

Barrett Brooks just did an entire segment of Birds Huddle with his fly down 🤣

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

He probably does but honestly the game plan is so piss poor I can't even really if I'm being honest honest. It's like judging Saquon as a runner based on this years stats. Like yeah maybe he's lost a step but how the F would you know with all these bunched predictable run plays behind poor run blocking? It's infuriating.

We haven't run blocked well but it is tough to do so with 10-11 defenders running to the LOS with guys like Smith and Calcaterra asked to block full steam linebackers and safeties.

Clearly we need more Calcaterra!

The commentary about it makes me chuckle

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

That's why I'm looking to move Landon Dickerson if I can. The Eagles HAVE to find a way to even out the salaries on both sides of the ball. They've got top salaries across the board on offense except for RG. It's time for Jeff Stoutland to show he can develop depth players they've drafted and not just blue chip players. I want to see Drew Kendall, Willie Lampkin, Cam Williams, Myles Hinton and Hollins Pierce step up. ONE of those guys needs to show they can start.

The offense is way too expensive for the production they are giving the team and on the flip side, the defense is totally out performing their contracts.

Moving one of the best guards in the game? Madden level idiocy

Play the FN starters. Getting GB is a huge advantage over having to play the Rams or Seahawks, not to mention a home game in the 2nd round should they get there.

10 hours ago, Swoop said:

I think your overall take over the last two or so pages has quite honestly been goofy, but let me try to help.

The overwhelming majority of this site and a large number of the fan base has lived through decades of bad years. Being the only team in the division without a title. Constantly coming up just short even in good years. Years where we were completely irrelevant.

Many of us are aware enough to understand that there is talent on this team that is capable of winning again and they just aren't executing the way they could/should and it's frustrating. You need to capitalize on the chances you have because before you know it you've lost that chance and it can be decades before you're back. Hell, some of us might never live to see a stretch like this one again.

If you can't recognize that, no one can help you.

You, and a lot of people didn't read the original post. Try seeing specifically what I said about this board in that original post. The people I replied to were the ones that felt singled out and offended anyway. Can't jump in midway through without context.

The entire reason I'm here is that it's less insufferable than Reddit. But I've been here for a very long time, and let me tell you it was way less insufferable before we started winning. Or in reality, before 2023. Fanbase has been a shitshow ever since.

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The commentary about it makes me chuckle

Blake Bortles and Aaron Rodgers have the same number of playoff wins since 2017.

Rodgers has earned every single one of his failures.

BJ Raji is the only reason he ever sniffed a Super Bowl as he could not outduel whoever came in for Chicago after Cutler got hurt.