1 minute ago, TEW said:

The problem is how much talent we had.

The eagles have had some bad offenses in my years as a fan, but it was expected because they had no talent.

On paper this should be a top 3 offense. There are pro bowl level players at 7 or 8 of the starting positions. Yet somehow we suck.

Mailata's year was less than normal...
Dickerson was hurt...
Cam was hurt...
RG was new...
Lane didn't play.

Brown had a lot of drops.
Smitty was really good as always.
Goedert was quite good.
Slot is irrelevant.
QB1 is not a particularly high level QB right now (has time to change) without the running game.
Saquon cannot function without a clean first level.

The first level was not clean, because of the breakdown of the OL above. Because of that, Jalen had a much harder time as he cannot carry with arm without a quality running game. Patullo was not good enough to make up for these issues, and made our playbook for the year not anticipating we'd have such tremendous issues in the running game. It's kind of like the opposite of a complementary offensive unit.

The offensive talent is overrated, because they did not do the thing needed for the offense to be successful: It all starts with the guys up front being able to run block. I told you guys this all year.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

They gave up two fourth quarter touchdown drives. We already knew the offense sucked. I’m not giving them a pass.

Fine - the legion of whom stepped up, the eagles D was just good today.

Just now, TEW said:

I think we need some speed at WR. We just are not an explosive offense unless Barkley goes yard. We need to push the coverage back too.

I’m just starting to look at draft prospects — how is the UGA kid Zachariah Branch? Seems like he has elite speed, but I haven’t really watched him play a ton. Mid round pick maybe?

likely round 2. And Hurts cant use a guy like that. He needs big possession WRs.

Hurts should have scrambled more and if he can’t anymore than I’m fine upgrading.

Blaming him for the loss is crazy though after all the drops.

Just now, devpool said:

When was the offense supposed to show up? The defense gave them opportunities, and you're mad they didnt make every single stop

We’re mad they gave up two TD drives in the fourth quarter to an offense with almost no receiving talent once Kittle went out. Goodness.

Just now, SkippyX said:

He is a competent offensive guy. Love has an awesome passing scheme to play.

Siri adds nothing. Fangio is the same with either guy.

If you have to castrate a HC twice then its time to find a new HC.

Can’t go to the SB every year. Sirianni’s "bad” years are 11 win seasons; we’re spoiled right now where it’s easy to forget we’re not having training camp holdouts and guys demanding trades. Even with tabloid stuff with AJ, Sirianni keeps it together

There's no way I blame the defense for today like at all

I'm not very bummed. Especially since the Eagles won a SB last season. This season never felt right from game #1 so my expectations were tempered since like October. Guys banged up that felt like they never healed up from 2024, guys having down years, a poor training camp, a terrible offense, signings not working out. This just wasn't the year. And if they have the opportunity to land a top OC and top assistants by getting bounced early, with Howie at the helm, I'm super confident they'll be right back at it next season. This is the youngest defense in football. Now spend this offseason retooling the offense and finding a CB2 on defense.

14 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

No the defense did not do their job. They're supposed to be elite and were terrible today. The Seahawks held this team to 3 fing points. This was a total team disaster and the defense needs to eat a lot of the blame.

This is dumb to blame the defense they held them to 23 points and got 2 int.

Offense has 30 million dollars with a 25 cent scheme

So did the week off maybe hurt the defense a little? Seems like they were playing soft too much giving WRs too much cushion at times. Also seemed like most big throws were on Adoree Jackson. I said earlier this year if they are in a position to draft a top CB early in the 1st or 2nd then take him to pair with DeJean and Q.

Who has a better shot of being an Eagle next year Patullo or AJ?

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, they weren't the 2000 Ravens. But, the Eagles offense pretty much was.

They were good enough to win a Super Bowl on defense, you can't deny that. The flip side is that they weren't so dominant that they could carry the dead carcass of an offense over the finish line.

The Eagles, in a nut shell...

No, the defense was NOT good enough to win a super bowl. Not even close to how good they were last year.

Just now, DaBirds said:

Hurts should have scrambled more and if he can’t anymore than I’m fine upgrading.

Blaming him for the loss is crazy though after all the drops.

I know this might be surprising coming from me, but I don't think it was all his fault either. Those last two throws were abysmal though. But AJ did him absolutely no favors. None.

Good news is: can start interviewing new coaches!

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

Who has a better shot of being an Eagle next year Patullo or AJ?

AJ won't be traded, gonna start a new thread about it, but I've heard from inside sources that they have no plans to move him. I'll put a guarantee on that.

Just now, tuffstuff07 said:

This is dumb to blame the defense they held them to 23 points and got 2 int.

Offense has 30 million dollars with a 25 cent scheme

100% agree. The defense did enough. there has been 4 playoff games this weekend, and the only team to score less points than the 49ers so far is the Eagles.

Just now, TEW said:

I think we need some speed at WR. We just are not an explosive offense unless Barkley goes yard. We need to push the coverage back too.

I’m just starting to look at draft prospects — how is the UGA kid Zachariah Branch? Seems like he has elite speed, but I haven’t really watched him play a ton. Mid round pick maybe?

There is a special WR prospect for us in this draft: Nyck Harbor. Basically DK Metcalf except bigger, taller, faster well into Calvin Johnson measurables territory. He is...neither productive nor unproductive.

He'll be a first round pick after the combine. And I just don't think WR is a first round option for us right now.

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

Who has a better shot of being an Eagle next year Patullo or AJ?

Doesn't AJ's contract prevent it? I know a lot of people have been screaming for him to be traded but I swear one of the cap guys said that's not happening multiple times

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not sure where you are finding the HC as good as siri with all the CEO stuff who can also call an offense.

Oh by the way, Siri might have a nice offense if he had a real QB too.

Siri sucks. He is an expert at nothing. Hopefully they fire him tonight with his bestie KP

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

likely round 2. And Hurts cant use a guy like that. He needs big possession WRs.

Oh, I’m looking to bring in competition at QB too. But he seems to do well with Smith who isn’t a big possession receiver.

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

Who has a better shot of being an Eagle next year Patullo or AJ?

Is there a 'none for 500 Alex?'

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I feel like a super bowl contender next year retaining most of the defensive talent. Retaining all of the offensive talent. And having a new OC.

However, firing the HC will be too much change and significantly hurt our chances.

Siri has an incredible record, and has earned more than 1 F up in a row. If next season is screwed, then its time to consider that.

Right now, stability with just an OC change puts us back in contention immediately.

New OC is definite. As far as trading AJ, I'm not calling for it but if they did i wouldn't be mad.

Some of the position coaches on offense also need changes, most notably WR coach.

14 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

It’s not true. This team had enough talent on offense to repeat - could have even won tonight without clear ref bias on critical plays.

All that talent has done jack ish all year.

At some point, you have to realise this is who they are this year - and it wasn't good enough to win it all

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Because we all agree the offense sucked. No need to discuss that.

That's where the buck stops, if the offense was halfway competent this game is a blowout.

Just now, Eriv20 said:

Siri sucks. He is an expert at nothing. Hopefully they fire him tonight with his bestie KP

You realize a new coach might want someone else besides Fangio right? And at some point someone's going to want someone else besides Stoutland too. When you put rules on the table that those things can't change, you limit your candidate pool.