Unless Nick falls on his sword for his guy, and based on his answer after the game I don't think he will, I see basically no chance we fire Nick. First, we just gave him an extension, so that's a lot of money. Second, and more importantly, if we fire a HC who has made the playoffs every year, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one, it likely hurts our ability to hire a good replacement -- if that's not enough to stay employed, then who wants that pressure.

6 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Wrong.

Half of those designed runs this year were maddening failures where he was too slow to get outside. Half were good- the only good ones were the draws.

I dont get why everyone is focused on called runs. Maybe because its cool to pick on Patullo's play calling.

The fact is, the bigger issue with the lack of running was Hurts decision to basically stop scrambling to pick up 1st downs this year. Thats the hardest thing to defend. Thats what he used to be so good at. Thats what really stresses a defense and changes the math on how they can defend you.

If they called more designed runs, thered have been a ton more wasted plays than we already had.

Assuming we are moving on from KP to a more competent OC, I think this is the biggest challenge for the staff to figure out.

How can you make an offense with Hurts effective if doesn't want to run? The answer may be that they do in fact need to bring back some of that element and encourage him to pick up first downs via scrambles as you say and put some more run options into the playbook to freeze the boundary defender.

I think both the running game and passing game took a step backwards because Hurts decided he was going to run less.

Nobody is firing Nick it just makes our fanbase look dumber by even entertaining this. Two super bowls in what five years 🤣🤣

I have the same chance at banging Sydney Sweeney as Nick does getting fired this offseason. Zero!!!

People love going with the optics are worth keeping a clown around for another year argument.

So we can fire Doug 2 years after a SB but not Nick after 1 even if the same issues happened with him 2 out of the last 3 years? Yawn. Any coach would love to go to Philly and have the best GM/owner in the league with Vic as a DC and the young talent they have on that side of the ball. It's not about a coach having to win a SB every year. It's about having a coach who can do more with less not less with more.

ESP must have got his marching orders from the Eagles. Now saying on Twitter that KP actually called a great game.

12 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

11 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Unless Nick falls on his sword for his guy, and based on his answer after the game I don't think he will, I see basically no chance we fire Nick. First, we just gave him an extension, so that's a lot of money. Second, and more importantly, if we fire a HC who has made the playoffs every year, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one, it likely hurts our ability to hire a good replacement -- if that's not enough to stay employed, then who wants that pressure.

Thankfully our owner isnt a mouth breathing spaz

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Unless Nick falls on his sword for his guy, and based on his answer after the game I don't think he will, I see basically no chance we fire Nick. First, we just gave him an extension, so that's a lot of money. Second, and more importantly, if we fire a HC who has made the playoffs every year, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one, it likely hurts our ability to hire a good replacement -- if that's not enough to stay employed, then who wants that pressure.

Only way i think he gets fired if he refuses to move on from patullo like doug did with his guys. I don’t see sirianni doing that. Albeit it would make for more content

lol the meme

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Unless Nick falls on his sword for his guy, and based on his answer after the game I don't think he will, I see basically no chance we fire Nick. First, we just gave him an extension, so that's a lot of money. Second, and more importantly, if we fire a HC who has made the playoffs every year, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one, it likely hurts our ability to hire a good replacement -- if that's not enough to stay employed, then who wants that pressure.

I just responded to this. Coaches will see it for what it really was, which is ineptitude 2 out of the last 3 years. When you do less with more you deserve to get fired. Again, Nick can't go to any team and be an OC for a reason. He can't go to any other team and have the successes he has had with the Eagles for a reason. If this was a one time thing, sure, they wouldn't be able to, but it's happened 2 out of the last 3 years and he makes great talent play worse. That's a major issue on top of being a clown who needs a babysitter, so I agree with what you are saying, but it's not a one time thing. They shouldn't give him another year because of optics.

Also, speaking of limiting coaches who would be interested, how many OC are going to want to come in and deal with Nick and be limited in what they can do because of his philosophies and "offense"?

I get it's unlikely, but this isn't a one time thing and it's not about winning or losing. It's about him being undisciplined, his team reflecting that with flags, and having all the talent in the world and making them worse.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

lol the meme

There’s no way 19 teams were worse…

Matt LaFleur seems to have survived in GB, a much vaunted HC and "Offensive mind" whose teams is a regular choker in the playoffs. Harbaugh got fired after 18 years. I understand the deep and sincere frustration at yesterday because it was not good enough. But that season wasn't ARs last or Chip Kelly's last - disappointing but nowhere near a sackable thing.

Time for evolution, not revolution.

lol

1 hour ago, greend said:

I've been to 2 eagles games (in Pittsburgh) eagles lost both #lessonlearned

I was at a eagles-steelers PRESEASON game in Pittsburgh and some stupid yinzer tried to pick a fight with me

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Howie really screwed up with the structure and extent of contracts that the offense has. He did an incredible job building the most talented roster in the NFL over a 3 year span, one that won a SB and went to 2.

But they are so hamstrung by their financial commitments to an ineffective, declining offense that it will lead to the premature disbanding of this defense and precludes them from tweaking the offense.

They are STUCK with this exact roster minus defensive losses for next year.

It's not like there's some big FA signing they can make to fix the offense. They will probably lose Goedert on offense too. I think they will try to keep either Reed or Phillips on defense. My guess is they will invest heavily in the offense in the draft.

23 minutes ago, RLC said:

AJ Brown has lost a step and is no longer an elite WR.

However, he is still very good and our cap situation is better with him than without him in 2026.

I think he checked out because he got tired of the trash game design. He's not being used correctly

22 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Unless Nick falls on his sword for his guy, and based on his answer after the game I don't think he will, I see basically no chance we fire Nick. First, we just gave him an extension, so that's a lot of money. Second, and more importantly, if we fire a HC who has made the playoffs every year, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one, it likely hurts our ability to hire a good replacement -- if that's not enough to stay employed, then who wants that pressure.

I disagree that it hurts us. Everyone could see the mess on offense and he never stepped in to do anything during the season. He's complicit

3 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Matt LaFleur seems to have survived in GB, a much vaunted HC and "Offensive mind" whose teams is a regular choker in the playoffs. Harbaugh got fired after 18 years. I understand the deep and sincere frustration at yesterday because it was not good enough. But that season wasn't ARs last or Chip Kelly's last - disappointing but nowhere near a sackable thing.

Time for evolution, not revolution.

TBF, I think GB knows they made a mistake with the Love extension. I think those 2 are gonna ride it out at least till Love is dump able. Green Bay is kind of like Pitt (less extreme), they don’t fire to fire.

3 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Howie really screwed up with the structure and extent of contracts that the offense has. He did an incredible job building the most talented roster in the NFL over a 3 year span, one that won a SB and went to 2.

But they are so hamstrung by their financial commitments to an ineffective, declining offense that it will lead to the premature disbanding of this defense and precludes them from tweaking the offense.

They are STUCK with this exact roster minus defensive losses for next year.

I trust Howie to figure it out. He will be fine. Birds will be fine. Need better coaching and we’ll be fine

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Unbelievable. And one of those plays was the play that Brady said he had time in the pocket but you can see why he had to bail. Absolutely nothing there.