1 minute ago, Godfather said:

He did. Devonta is a special player. I'll say it again tho. Howie has a terrible track record drafting WR's

True

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

At least they outbid everyone else for Quez

Yuck

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Eh, then you get 2027 picks and have a massive hole at WR. If you cut him after 2026 and designate post June 1, it's $49mm in dead money as opposed to $43mm now, but you can put roughly half that dead cap in 2028. So the cost is basically $6mm more in dead cap and the $29mm you pay him for 2026, but all that money is guaranteed.

I didn't realize the 2026 money is guaranteed, so based on that I agree it probably doesn't make sense to move off him until after the 2026 season.

11 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Well?

Wouldn't mind him as the OC

I do fear they’re going to wait and procrastinate on firing anyone and we’ll lose out on someone

18 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Quez Watkins, your 2026 WR3.

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Dammit, I got an alert from the Eagles and I thought the deed was done. Unfortunately it was to announce futures contracts.

Yea but we locked up Quez Watkins for 2026

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Surprised that Sam isn’t listed, thought the QB might make the list too. No Jenkins either.

no kicker?

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

Wouldn't mind him as the OC

He will be gone after a year ala Moore if the O is successful. I think we need someone like a Monken. I hear Greg Roman might be out a job soon. Someone old who will not be a future HC candidate.

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

I didn't realize the 2026 money is guaranteed, so based on that I agree it probably doesn't make sense to move off him until after the 2026 season.

Agreed. If the Eagles do move on from him, it'll be then. Not sure they give him another contract to give him guaranteed money and also he'll be another year older

On Eagles fans being spoiled: I disagree, to a point.

After the 1st SB win they tried to repeat with aging veterans, it wasn't sustainable. 2017 was a combination of factors that wasn't going to be replicated. The expectations weren't as high, especially since it was the first SB win in the SB era. They drafted poorly and didn't have good replacements. Bad drafting on defense, busts like Reagor and JJAW. They learned from it.

This time around, Howie has drafted great since 2021 and actually built a championship defense mostly from the draft. Something we always dreamed of! They got a great DC in Vic Fangio. They have young stud players on defense. The core will be good for a long time. They are drafting good Linebackers, even a 1st round LB for the first time since 1970. The offense returned 10 of 11 starters. The state of the league made it wide open for them to win more games, get the #1 seed, and repeat as SB champs.

They didn't need a genius OC. A decent, competent OC would have had this offense performing.

The part I do agree with is expecting a SB win every year. It's hard to repeat. Many teams fans would love to be in the playoffs 5 years in a row and go to 2 SBs, winning 1. However, the way this played out was bad.

I wouldn't mind if they had a good OC and played well and teams just beat them. But the incompetence and negligence from the coaching on offense is inexcusable.

3 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

no kicker?

Futures are just guys that were on practice squad. I can't imagine there were many Kickers.

This is also just our PS guys right now. Will have to see if they sign any outside guys.

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

What would you say are the years he improved? And not by winning (team stat). What years did Hurts improve as a QB?

Fair question. He has improved his fumbling. Doesn’t turn his back to the LOS on scrambles like he used to do. Better at protecting himself and much better at throwing the ball away. Most of that was with Nuss last year.

6 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

no kicker?

Yet. Figure that will be an UFDA. If they don’t extend Mann, Eagles could be looking at three new STs specialists this year.

6 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

....Yeah uh. I'm not entirely sure we're running a scheme at all after going back and watching a game from early 2021. If that's the pure version of Sirianni's offense, I have no idea what the hell we saw this year - or frankly, even last year in the passing game.

They have certainly simplified the scheme and gone too far the other way for two reasons:

1. What Hurts is comfortable running

2. Myopic focus on avoiding turnovers

It worked last year as the passing game just needed to support a historic run game and #2 was critical for that. But it cant carry an offense like that with a average / below average run game which is what we had this year. They need to re-adjust and tweak back a little this offseason

16 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Surprised that Sam isn’t listed, thought the QB might make the list too. No Jenkins either.

Clearly quez is replacing Aj and took Sam’s spot lmao

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Fair question. He has improved his fumbling. Doesn’t turn his back to the LOS on scrambles like he used to do. Better at protecting himself and much better at throwing the ball away. Most of that was with Nuss last year.

His 2025 looked to be regressing. Bailing out of the pocket and not going through his progressions

18 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Wouldn't mind him as the OC

So he can leave in a year and we’re back to square one?

21 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Would replace Nick with Stefanski in a heartbeat. Can only hope that Lurie has the balls to look past the "optics”.

The "optics' would be that a WIP caller is running the team. It would be quite insane

24 minutes ago, Godfather said:

The passing game was fn awful this year. So that wouldn't be an improvement

It wouldn't.

I literally love AJ Brown - as a receiver - the good version of AJ Brown.

But he has something within him that is not good - puts himself above the team and QB - the very same QB and team that made him who he is (or was).

That's not cool - sorry - not sorry.

And maybe AJ needs to do some inner exploring - BUT THAT GUY NEEDS TO BE A MAN AND NOT DRAG EVERYONE DOWN WITH HIM.

Get it?

You want someone who will never be a HC, has play calling experience and will make Goodell have a stroke?

Jon Gruden needs a job.

I am kidding, for the record.

12 minutes ago, NOTW said:

On Eagles fans being spoiled: I disagree, to a point.

After the 1st SB win they tried to repeat with aging veterans, it wasn't sustainable. 2017 was a combination of factors that wasn't going to be replicated. The expectations weren't as high, especially since it was the first SB win in the SB era. They drafted poorly and didn't have good replacements. Bad drafting on defense, busts like Reagor and JJAW. They learned from it.

This time around, Howie has drafted great since 2021 and actually built a championship defense mostly from the draft. Something we always dreamed of! They got a great DC in Vic Fangio. They have young stud players on defense. The core will be good for a long time. They are drafting good Linebackers, even a 1st round LB for the first time since 1970. The offense returned 10 of 11 starters. The state of the league made it wide open for them to win more games, get the #1 seed, and repeat as SB champs.

They didn't need a genius OC. A decent, competent OC would have had this offense performing.

The part I do agree with is expecting a SB win every year. It's hard to repeat. Many teams fans would love to be in the playoffs 5 years in a row and go to 2 SBs, winning 1. However, the way this played out was bad.

I wouldn't mind if they had a good OC and played well and teams just beat them. But the incompetence and negligence from the coaching on offense is inexcusable.

My issue is it was more accepting the decline of the the team from 2018 onward. Cause like you said they weren’t drafting well. And they were trying to do fixes strictly through free agency. So that decline was coming and eventually imploded in 2020.

The difference here is this team has a lot of guys in their prime. This defense is stacked and is relatively young. This offense had everybody come back from last year besides one offensive lineman and a new OC. And this offense has been like pulling teeth trying to figure out their passing game since the Niners whooped their ass in 2023.

I wouldn’t have been mad if they didn’t go out and win a Super Bowl this year. I know it’s hard to do that. Heck losing to the rams or Seahawks would really bothered me. They are very good teams. Losing games because of poor coaching, misusing talent and getting less from more has been an issue in the past. My biggest issue is their offense for the better part of 2.5 years now can’t figure out their passing game. In a Fing passing league. It’s consistently every year we’re talking about the same thing with the passing game. I watch other teams with inferior talent scheme up and design stuff to move the ball and it easier for passing game.

Yet us with superior talent continuously is like trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole or pulling teeth. They twice this year went an entire half without completing a pass. You know how incompetent you have to be in order to achieve that. Even the crappy ass titans and jets didn’t manage to do that. The fact we got worse after the bye is alarming. They were 26 in EPA and 25 in success rate. tells me no one had any answers. Just basically hoping our talent would eventually take over and it never did

1 hour ago, paco said:

I was at a eagles-steelers PRESEASON game in Pittsburgh and some stupid yinzer tried to pick a fight with me

Lol, me too. That's hilarious

19 minutes ago, NOTW said:

On Eagles fans being spoiled: I disagree, to a point.

After the 1st SB win they tried to repeat with aging veterans, it wasn't sustainable. 2017 was a combination of factors that wasn't going to be replicated. The expectations weren't as high, especially since it was the first SB win in the SB era. They drafted poorly and didn't have good replacements. Bad drafting on defense, busts like Reagor and JJAW. They learned from it.

This time around, Howie has drafted great since 2021 and actually built a championship defense mostly from the draft. Something we always dreamed of! They got a great DC in Vic Fangio. They have young stud players on defense. The core will be good for a long time. They are drafting good Linebackers, even a 1st round LB for the first time since 1970. The offense returned 10 of 11 starters. The state of the league made it wide open for them to win more games, get the #1 seed, and repeat as SB champs.

They didn't need a genius OC. A decent, competent OC would have had this offense performing.

The part I do agree with is expecting a SB win every year. It's hard to repeat. Many teams fans would love to be in the playoffs 5 years in a row and go to 2 SBs, winning 1. However, the way this played out was bad.

I wouldn't mind if they had a good OC and played well and teams just beat them. But the incompetence and negligence from the coaching on offense is inexcusable.

That's exactly it and you nailed it. We all want to win every year, which is what we should do as fans, but if a team beat them that happens. Watching someone that inept throw all that talent in the trash is inexcusable. Not only did they return most starters most of the team was healthy in the playoffs. Two very rare things and the year was wasted.