November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, NCiggles said:I don't know that this chart reflects the skill of the receiver as much as the skill of the play caller. Separation agains zone coverage would likely mean the route is designed to go to a hole in the coverage.Exactly. The receiver can only run the route assigned to him as part of the play design. Even on choice routes, they're supposed to read the coverage to determine what to run from a (usually binary) set of options, not just free lance. So saying receiver so and so is great at getting separation in zone coverage isn't really due to anything they're doing as much as it is due to the other routes in their vicinity pulling defenders away from them.
November 14Nov 14 12 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:Not to trigger wgb but it was clearly an effort to get an offsides for a shove and punt if a delayWhat was clear to come to that conclusion? All the linemen were perfect getting out of their stance. By the time they lined up they snapped the ball in 5 seconds with no effort to draw them offsides even once.
November 14Nov 14 15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:Well that's not encouragingI had a feeling he probably wasn’t going too. Kind of think they were hopeful for lions game but realistically Dallas made more sense. if they IR’d him he’d be out til bears game. Didn’t want to do that with the bye coming up. Imo if the bye wasn’t there he was likely IR’d and would’ve missed this game. Imo i think his sprain was likely more than a grade 1 sprain. If grade 2 it’s 4-6 weeks.
November 14Nov 14 The Ojomo in the 7th round thing still baffles me. Like yeah he’s a little light and he complained to the media that time at Texas, but this dude had 34 inch arms, athleticism, and a ton of experience for his age (went to Texas at 16). This is a league where long snappers can go as high as the 5th round. Just makes no sense.
November 14Nov 14 13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:What was clear to come to that conclusion?All the linemen were perfect getting out of their stance. By the time they lined up they snapped the ball in 5 seconds with no effort to draw them offsides even once.I'm in the clear minority because I didn't mind going for it there. A 53-yard FG in the elements is tough and still only puts you up 6 points even if you make it. If you don't then GB gets the ball at the 43. A punt from the opponent's 35-yard line is also tough because it's very seldom a team punts from there. IMO, the likely outcome was GB getting the ball at the 20 -- I do still think that would have been the right play because I'd have kicked it where the return man wasn't and hoped the ball rolled around a bit to kill 2-3 more seconds ... I just didn't see going for it as egregious an error as others seem to. If you make it, you win the game; in the end not converting it was a 15-yard difference, IMO of the likely outcome of a punt from there. I didn't like the play that was run, even though they've run it successfully 2-3 times before. I certainly wouldn't want them dialing that play up with the season on the line. I agree what they should have done was line up to gamble, hard count a few times, and take a time count violation, then punt from the 40.
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, SkippyX said:Top 3 QBs of the last 25 years are pretty obvious:BradyRodgersMahomesThe only rate stat that they are all top 6 all-time in? Low interception %Peyton Manning's first 5 years as a Colt: 3.5% interception rate. No playoff wins. 42-38 recordHis next 4 years: 1.9% interception rate: 7 playoff wins and a Super Bowl win. 50-14 recordNote: He had 7 picks on his weird and pathetic 2006 SB run but the opposing QBs had 7 picks and 3 fumbles.Incredible Bob Sanders yearHe won a SB because Rex Grossman turned the ball over 3 times including a pick 6.Next 5 years it goes back up about 50% to 2.5%: 2 playoff wins and a SB loss sealed with a pick 6. 49-15 recordManning has 14 TDs to 15 picks in his playoff losses. He has 26 TDs to 10 picks in his wins. Its not a surprise he was only 14-13 as a playoff starter on loaded teams.That's 23 TDs to 3 picks in 10 of his wins outside of that very weird 2006 SB run.Turnovers kill.Come on, man. I agree with most of your points, but Manning is no lower than top 2 even with those ints.
November 14Nov 14 56 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:The difference is Hurts says there are things he can improve to improve the offense. Mailata says the same with "we are one block away" and how he needs to play better to improve the offense.Meanwhile Brown never once says anything about how he can improve or help. It's always just a pity party about not getting the ball. If he took accountability once in awhile, his message would be better received.Do you think AJ isn't getting the ball because he's not open?
November 14Nov 14 31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:I had a feeling he probably wasn’t going too. Kind of think they were hopeful for lions game but realistically Dallas made more sense. if they IR’d him he’d be out til bears game. Didn’t want to do that with the bye coming up. Imo if the bye wasn’t there he was likely IR’d and would’ve missed this game. Imo i think his sprain was likely more than a grade 1 sprain. If grade 2 it’s 4-6 weeks.I would rather they let him heal that try to rush him back.
November 14Nov 14 2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:Do you think AJ isn't getting the ball because he's not open?Do you think he's been perfect?I've seen him stop or lazily run routes. I've seen instances of disinterest and poor blocking. Wouldn't that improve the offense if he was better in those areas? It would, but he doesn't care about improving the offense, he cares about getting his. And there has been advanced statistics that say he's not getting as much separation. At the end of the day, nothing changes about my original statement. He doesn't take accountability or ever say he needs to do better individually.
November 14Nov 14 Just now, NCiggles said:I would rather they let him heal that try to rush him back.Especially considering Dallas game and bears game are 5 days apart
November 14Nov 14 27 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:The Ojomo in the 7th round thing still baffles me. Like yeah he’s a little light and he complained to the media that time at Texas, but this dude had 34 inch arms, athleticism, and a ton of experience for his age (went to Texas at 16). This is a league where long snappers can go as high as the 5th round. Just makes no sense.He didn't really have a ton of production at UT, and the agility tests didn't indicate that he'd develop into a pass rusher. He has long arms and was good against the run in college, but is relatively light so there were likely concerns about how he'd hold up in the pros. And then airing his teammates dirty laundry to the press might have been a red flag of sorts. So, Day 3 sure... Round 7, don't know. At the time I figured it might have something to do with his commitment to the game - as he's smart, and will be successful beyond playing interior DL. He doesn't seem to have any medical issues that are typically behind these mysterious draft day slides.
November 14Nov 14 53 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:What was clear to come to that conclusion?All the linemen were perfect getting out of their stance. By the time they lined up they snapped the ball in 5 seconds with no effort to draw them offsides even once."It was clear, trust me bro"
November 14Nov 14 3 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:Come on, man. I agree with most of your points, but Manning is no lower than top 2 even with those ints.You are completely wrong, but free to have your opinion. (or the one Peter King and ESPN gave you)4 SBs, 5 TD passes... 3 to his team and 2 to the other team. Funny stuff. 3 TDs to 5 picks in the 4 biggest games of his life, 2 of the 5 were pick 6.Manning's 2004 and 2013 regular seasons are fantastic. The rest of his career is a mess when compared to the greats.He's the 2nd best SB QB in his own family.Rodgers does have a similar playoff record to Manning, but he has 45 TDs to 13 picks in the playoffs for example.You could even say that Rodgers was carried in his one NFCCG win but he was the best player in the playoffs for the other 3 games.He beat the Eagles with 28 because he did not need 42.SB Passer Ratings:Rodgers 111.5 in 1 gameBrady 97.7 in 10 games.Mahomes 86.9 in 5 games. (maybe 82.5 before BTA garbage time kicks in)Eli 96.2 in 2 gamesPeyton 77.4 in 4 gamesManning's SB runs were 3 TDs to 7 picks and 2 TDs to 1 picksDilfer 3 TDs 1 pickBrad Johnson 5 TDs to 3 picksHostetler 3 TDs 0 picksHe's way more Big Ben 1 TD to 3 picks than Joe Montana 11 TDs to 0 picks.
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:Not to trigger wgb but it was clearly an effort to get an offsides for a shove and punt if a delayWell consider me triggered because I'm amused at how people like you can watch the sport for multiple decades and still get the basic stuff wrong.
November 14Nov 14 6 minutes ago, Outlaw said:@mattwill Eagles 27, Lions 24Bonus: Phillips with his first full sack as a Bird@hputenis will be getting a full sack this weekend too, but it won't be on the football field!
November 14Nov 14 2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:Id expect Hurts, a starting QB in the NFL to have confidence in his abilities and want to do more. But, see this part of your post below...Do you realize why that is???Because Sirianni is a coward.
November 14Nov 14 15 minutes ago, NCiggles said:Because Sirianni is a coward.BUT, he wasn't until he realized his QB is a turnover machine.
November 14Nov 14 22 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:@hputenis will be getting a full sack this weekend too, but it won't be on the football field!
November 14Nov 14 23 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:@hputenis will be getting a full sack this weekend too, but it won't be on the football field!Is that your Bonus prediction?
November 14Nov 14 Just now, mattwill said:Is that your Bonus prediction?Oh that's not a prediction - that's a fact
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:Well that's not encouragingSome players can gut it out at 80%Cam sometimes getting pushed 4 yards backwards on run plays does not appear to be one of them.Rest up. See you next week or the week after.I'd love a healthier Cam the rest of the way.
November 14Nov 14 Another thing about the offense on Monday. Saquon theoretically housed a TD.The play call, the line play, the RB effort was all long TD.Parsons clearly and obviously cheated with a leg whip and the scumbag refs ignored it.Everything else about the play was perfect.
November 14Nov 14 I think a lot of the Hurts frustration and debate comes from the following...When Hurts has a good game passing, the Eagles are essentially unbeatable. With their defense, OL, running game...if he actually clicks as a passer for 4 quarters, any game against any team is a meaningless laugher. In games where he either passes poorly or rarely, they still generally win all the time.There is going naturally be a collection that wonders what things would look like with a QB who passes better more often. I understand the other things he brings to the table and it's not my intention of this post to bash him. But it is worthy of reflection of how utterly impossible it is for any team in the NFL to even remotely compete with the Eagles when their QB simply has a good game throwing the football.
November 14Nov 14 1 minute ago, SkippyX said:Another thing about the offense on Monday. Saquon theoretically housed a TD.The play call, the line play, the RB effort was all long TD.Parsons clearly and obviously cheated with a leg whip and the scumbag refs ignored it.Everything else about the play was perfect.It is funny how the talking heads will spend days crying over a missed false start on a tush push but not a single person mentioned that play.
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