January 19Jan 19 12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:IMO, the Eagles don't need a "Dawg," a physical presence, a ballhawk, or a playmaker at corner. They've got arguably the best shutdown corner in the NFL in Mitchell and the best overall football player DB in the NFL in Dejean, who tracks down plays and tackles like a linebacker, with the nose of a ballhawk. I want pure coverage. If Dejean is running all over the field making plays and Mitchell is eliminating WR1 from the game, if they can just get the other CB to truly excel in coverage...their secondary will be a nightmare to face. I don't care how many tackles he blows when RBs make it to the second level. We have 5 first round picks at DT and LB that better minimize that scenario. Pure coverage. That takes the defense to the next level.
January 19Jan 19 25 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:He hasn’t drafted anyone worth a damn besides James Cook sinceJosh Allen is basically the infinity gauntlet
January 19Jan 19 13 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:The Buffalo job isn’t as great as it seems. The drafting has been weak and Beane has full control. Not what Harbaugh wanted for sure.That seems like a team on the decline where you get to be the guy stained with the downfallAlso McDermott is totally overrated. His entire accomplishment is based on Josh Allen and that never lead to a SBIts a no lose gig. You get a top qb and if it fails its mcdermotts fault. If it succeeds you get all the gloryPlus ownership thats got a long term perspective
January 19Jan 19 3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:The AJ Brown money should be distributed to one or more different positions.I have little interest in making sure to find a like for like replacement for Brown. Im all for letting Smith become the clear cut #1 target, and filling out the WR corps with good enough.Either the offense continues to suck and it doesnt matter. Or we get a good OC and he schemes open good enough guys.The AJ replacement does not need to be equal talent. The money would be better spent elsewhere in either scenario next season.If you do at least want another big body at that WR spot free agent options as of now are- Jauan Jennings, Mike Williams, Alex Pierce, George Pickens. Draft options in the top 3 rounds are Denzel Boston, Chris Bell, JaKobi Lane, Elijah Surratt, Chris Brazzell, and Malachi Fields.No shortage of options.Other good enough free agent options not necessarily big guys, WanDale Robinson, Christian Kirk, Rashid Shaheed (KR value too), retain Dotson, Metchie (RFA), DoubsI have 0 concern for replacing AJ Brown if he is gone.I'm more concerned about losing $20m in cap space. I don't care much about losing a possession WR in an offense that can't throw the football anyway. Trading AJ Brown makes the defense worse.
January 19Jan 19 3 hours ago, ManuManu said:Having to wait until early February to start the interview process for an OC is fairly crippling. Patullo was the pass game coordinator and a guy the Super Bowl-winning coach trusted and vouched for. While disappointing that they didn’t cast a wider net just to get ideas, Patullo made all the sense in the world at the time.To each his own, I believe it was absolute malpractice that they didn't even make an attempt to interview anyone else in favor of a guy who had never called plays at any level, especially considering they had just done the same exact thing in 2023. They knew well before the SB that Moore was likely to go, and there were candidates available after the super bowl. This was a throwaway year from the second they announced patullo was the OC
January 19Jan 19 13 minutes ago, NOTW said:Grizzard has already been called Glizzard. Next is either Gizzard. Or Glizzy.So we're looking at a Cooter or a Glizzy to pair with a Siri & Big Dom. It's a Sopranos cast names in the making.I can get behind Coach Glizzy
January 19Jan 19 7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:Coaches get stale. Mcdermott introduced Buffalo to winning and he got that defense on track in a big way. He was OC dependent and the defense then got off track...and usually saves its worst for playoff games. And poof...now he really doesn't offer much. It's a fickle league.
January 19Jan 19 3 minutes ago, SkippyX said:I completely agree with the Dungy swap for Gruden as long as you have a Gruden.Who is the clear upgrade on McDermott?BTW, Dungy was an incredibly overrated HC. He underachieved in Tampa and Indy.His teams got to the SB the year after he left. Both teams.He got to 1 SB with about 8 SB level teams.Six 1-and-dones in 11 playoffs.He did develop a nice pipeline but that helped other teams.This is the NFL life cycle. It's basically a wave form. When that wave crests, hasn't crashed yet, but the team is clearly in decline...you change what you can because the status quo isn't working anyway. They're not trading Josh Allen. So they'll see if a new HC can get them a boost.Will it? Probably not. This is probably it for that Bills team. So they are changing what they can.
January 19Jan 19 2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:I'm more concerned about losing $20m in cap space. I don't care much about losing a possession WR in an offense that can't throw the football anyway.Trading AJ Brown makes the defense worse.Id look to sign Alex Pierce this year if possible. Hes a big guy who runs a 4.3 and was underutilized in Indy should come at a bargain compared to his skill set.And draft this guy. 2 big possession type WRs for Hurts to throw to. 2 weapons for the new OC. And you have the big body role covered for when AJ leaves.
January 19Jan 19 22 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:The Buffalo job isn’t as great as it seems. The drafting has been weak and Beane has full control. Not what Harbaugh wanted for sure.That seems like a team on the decline where you get to be the guy stained with the downfallAlso McDermott is totally overrated. His entire accomplishment is based on Josh Allen and that never lead to a SBI’d have fired McDermott after 2022 season. First losing the way they did the previous year, i don’t think you could do it. i could make the argument you blew a 3 point lead in 13 seconds with a team needing to go 35-40 yards to get into FG range. And they got 44. Thats inexcusable and on your defense. However I’d still bring him back. Second once they got smacked by the bengals 27-10 the next year I’d have fired him. I get the Hamlin situation but even prior to that (in that game) they were trending the wrong way. Add on Payton was available. That was the time to do it. Feels like the last 3 years now they just spun their wheels and are worse off as roster and wasted 3 years of Allen’s prime with a coach that was never getting them over the hump.
January 19Jan 19 Stafford was like Domino from Deadpool last night.He fumbled twice and it bounced right to Rams.He threw 3 or 4 passes at Bears. None were caught. (and another that was off the fingertips but was not really catchable)He had deflections that floated but not to nearby Bears.He played slightly better than Stroud. He was just lucky as hell.Two Weeks ago Foles was 9th all-time in playoff passer rating. He is now 7th as both Rodgers and Stafford have dropped below him.
January 19Jan 19 14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:IMO, the Eagles don't need a "Dawg," a physical presence, a ballhawk, or a playmaker at corner.They've got arguably the best shutdown corner in the NFL in Mitchell and the best overall football player DB in the NFL in Dejean, who tracks down plays and tackles like a linebacker, with the nose of a ballhawk.I want pure coverage. If Dejean is running all over the field making plays and Mitchell is eliminating WR1 from the game, if they can just get the other CB to truly excel in coverage...their secondary will be a nightmare to face. I don't care how many tackles he blows when RBs make it to the second level. We have 5 first round picks at DT and LB that better minimize that scenario.Pure coverage. That takes the defense to the next level.There are CBs that offer both like Chris Johnson, Terrell, or Keith Abney.But a guy who looks really sticky, but is thinner looking than his listed weight and misses tackles is Cisse. He would be your pure coverage guy.Id take the other two over him. Id love for Cisse to rise up to CB1 and push others down to us.
January 19Jan 19 12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:The AJ Brown money should be distributed to one or more different positions.I have little interest in making sure to find a like for like replacement for Brown. Im all for letting Smith become the clear cut #1 target, and filling out the WR corps with good enough.Either the offense continues to suck and it doesnt matter. Or we get a good OC and he schemes open good enough guys.The AJ replacement does not need to be equal talent. The money would be better spent elsewhere in either scenario next season.If you do at least want another big body at that WR spot free agent options as of now are- Jauan Jennings, Mike Williams, Alex Pierce, George Pickens. Draft options in the top 3 rounds are Denzel Boston, Chris Bell, JaKobi Lane, Elijah Surratt, Chris Brazzell, and Malachi Fields.No shortage of options.Other good enough free agent options not necessarily big guys, WanDale Robinson, Christian Kirk, Rashid Shaheed (KR value too), retain Dotson, Metchie (RFA), DoubsI have 0 concern for replacing AJ Brown if he is gone.I’m sure they can work out the money details or at the very least they save 7 million trading him after June 1st. Though that would likely mean no compensation till 2027 unless a player is involved.Personally I’d be interested in a Maxx Crosby for AJ trade with some type of pick swap/conditional picks.
January 19Jan 19 2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:IMO, the Eagles don't need a "Dawg," a physical presence, a ballhawk, or a playmaker at corner.They've got arguably the best shutdown corner in the NFL in Mitchell and the best overall football player DB in the NFL in Dejean, who tracks down plays and tackles like a linebacker, with the nose of a ballhawk.I want pure coverage. If Dejean is running all over the field making plays and Mitchell is eliminating WR1 from the game, if they can just get the other CB to truly excel in coverage...their secondary will be a nightmare to face. I don't care how many tackles he blows when RBs make it to the second level. We have 5 first round picks at DT and LB that better minimize that scenario.Pure coverage. That takes the defense to the next level.There seems to be a slew of corners this year, probably the best position in the draft looking at it right now. It would be awfully tempting to snag one of them at 23 or somewhere around there considering trade options vs how the board falls. Completely fortifying the corners spot would be a very intriguing option. I would prefer someone that can be a ballhawk/playmaker, as good as Quinyon is, actually catching the ball isn't his strongest asset.A lot of needs on my wish list no particular order:CB ; S ; Edge ; OL ; TEthen to a lesser extent WR ; DT.You could even double up on OL. I just don't love this years draft there so options would be more limited I feel.If you could come out with Howell, Hood and Haulcy that would be quite a trio for the defense. But then you are bypassing the offense especially the o-line which I can't see happening this year.But again, this o-line draft just doesn't get me excited and I would hate the idea of bypassing an exciting defender over a reach for a need at o-line.Very complicated off-season we have in store on many fronts.
January 19Jan 19 2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:Id look to sign Alex Pierce this year if possible. Hes a big guy who runs a 4.3 and was underutilized in Indy should come at a bargain compared to his skill set.And draft this guy. 2 big possession type WRs for Hurts to throw to. 2 weapons for the new OC. And you have the big body role covered for when AJ leaves.I still don't love the possession WR model....although the NFL has become a little less wide open in recent years, which renders possession WRs as more viable than they were about 10 years ago. Not as many Marvin Harrison / Tyreek Hill types going for 1800 yards (not sure if that's because the game has moved off that spot or if it's because the league just doesn't really feature any great WRs in that mold right now).But old habits die hard and there are 2 WRs in this draft that fascinate me (for the right value/round). One is Nyck Harbor. The guy is a megatron level physical talent...except he's quite a bit faster. He makes DK Metcalf look like a smaller and slower. Now, he's got all the concerns a skeptic would imagine in terms of refinement and commitment to the game. But that's also because if he didn't, he'd be the #1 overall pick. He still made big plays in college and was by no means completely un-productive. The issue is that the combine will make him a guaranteed first round pick. And that's just a tough pill to swallow at WR right now for a guy that is a swing and miss prospect. Starting in round 2? I'd be all over him.The next is Chris Hilton from LSU. He's a pure late round play. Another Quez Watkins. Quez flashed...in another reality where he developed more polish, maybe he would have been a productive NFL wr. Anyone who is an LSU fan would not support this. He was a bust of an NCAA receiver. But he has shown an ability to track the football (in spurts) and can outrun every single player on the field. His entire purpose would be that once per game deep throw...or perhaps a WR screen or jet sweep.
January 19Jan 19 1 minute ago, eagle45 said:I still don't love the possession WR model....although the NFL has become a little less wide open in recent years, which renders possession WRs as more viable than they were about 10 years ago. Not as many Marvin Harrison / Tyreek Hill types going for 1800 yards (not sure if that's because the game has moved off that spot or if it's because the league just doesn't really feature any great WRs in that mold right now).But old habits die hard and there are 2 WRs in this draft that fascinate me (for the right value/round). One is Nyck Harbor. The guy is a megatron level physical talent...except he's quite a bit faster. He makes DK Metcalf look like a smaller and slower. Now, he's got all the concerns a skeptic would imagine in terms of refinement and commitment to the game. But that's also because if he didn't, he'd be the #1 overall pick. He still made big plays in college and was by no means completely un-productive. The issue is that the combine will make him a guaranteed first round pick. And that's just a tough pill to swallow at WR right now for a guy that is a swing and miss prospect. Starting in round 2? I'd be all over him.The next is Chris Hilton from LSU. He's a pure late round play. Another Quez Watkins. Quez flashed...in another reality where he developed more polish, maybe he would have been a productive NFL wr. Anyone who is an LSU fan would not support this. He was a bust of an NCAA receiver. But he has shown an ability to track the football (in spurts) and can outrun every single player on the field. His entire purpose would be that once per game deep throw...or perhaps a WR screen or jet sweep.I believe Harbor stayed in school.
January 19Jan 19 2 hours ago, ManuManu said:How many teaks need an OC now?5 have an OC opening plus the 10 HC jobs who I don't think hired an OC yet, so 15 at least?
January 19Jan 19 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:I believe Harbor stayed in school.Very interesting because next year we could be much more in that market.
January 19Jan 19 I think the new moron brain trust in Buffalo might be the 1 team that will offer a king's ransom for AJ Brown.I'd rather he stay and refocus under new leadership but I will also take the bag if its offered.
January 19Jan 19 So I'm firmly planted in the Hurts isn't getting it done camp. But I have to acknowledge...the QB play in the playoffs this year has been AWFUL. I mean Hurts can't move the football, but to a man...every single QB in the playoffs can't stop turning it over.The lesson here is that when the QB play is middling and undifferentiated...there is a reason that all of the teams left alive late in the playoffs are the ones with QB's on more modest or rookie contracts: they've got more space to stack the deck with more talent. Darnold, 2 AFC teams with rookie deal QBs, and what's left of Stafford...they are alive because of how mediocre they are.
January 19Jan 19 Top priority of the league to see how they can further change the rules of OT to try ans get Allen an OT win.
January 19Jan 19 1 minute ago, eagle45 said:So I'm firmly planted in the Hurts isn't getting it done camp. But I have to acknowledge...the QB play in the playoffs this year has been AWFUL. I mean Hurts can't move the football, but to a man...every single QB in the playoffs can't stop turning it over.The lesson here is that when the QB play is middling and undifferentiated...there is a reason that all of the teams left alive late in the playoffs are the ones with QB's on more modest or rookie contracts: they've got more space to stack the deck with more talent.Until they come up with a new QB only salary cap system, it appears the pendulum has shifted back to defense and run game with game manager QBs paired with a good OC who can scheme open nice intermediate chunk plays in the passing game.To have a game manager QB on a massive deal who wont throw intermediate passes is probably about as bad a QB position as a team can possibly find itself in.
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