47 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Patience, grasshopper. Its a process

Yup...the Eagles are going to pick people's brains and properly vet candidates, and revisit past candidates who have been vetted. They will be thorough because it is entirely possible that one of these candidates may very well end up as the future Eagles HC. The bigger name candidates also seem to understand the waiting game. The good news is that the Eagles is a desired organization to play for with a competent and confident candidate. It is not that hard to succeed and thrive in Philly...do your friggin job well and don't suck and you will never have to buy a dinner or drink in town again...

This would never happen, but if Hurts were to semi-acknowledge his average-ness and extend his deal for about half what he's getting (over)paid right now...I'd actually give him another 5 year extension and double down on a new OC refining him as a pocket passer as Howie has the freedom to re-stack the roster.  Then Hurts, like 2022 and 2024, stands on the shoulders of a vastly superior team every time he faces a better QB.  And when he does face a really good team, they are going to have a Sam Darnold or rookie at the helm. 

I don't think that type of deal would be on the table...so live will go on in both directions for them.  

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Until they come up with a new QB only salary cap system, it appears the pendulum has shifted back to defense and run game with game manager QBs paired with a good OC who can scheme open nice intermediate chunk plays in the passing game.

To have a game manager QB on a massive deal who wont throw intermediate passes is probably about as bad a QB position as a team can possibly find itself in.

I think you are right. But you did also come up with the best argument for Hurts. The issue is that Hurts is not paid like the game manager that he is.

If that were door 3...pay Hurts like a game manager and let Howie cook with the roster...I'd take that all day every day.

But we've seen the Chiefs, Bills, and frankly our Eagles have meaningful talent erosions after the QBs got their money. Mahomes and Allen put on their cape and offset that for a while...but they crumbled too. Hurts definitely can't do that. That's why Sam freaking Darnold is hosting an NFCCG and 2 guys on rookie deals are in the AFCCG.

If all of the QB's aren't playing well, then advantage shifts to the cheapest QBs on the best rosters.

Worst ever year to need an OC. Half the league needs an OC and there are like 10 good names. They've interviewed none of those names.

When we end up with jim Bob cooter or grizzard hopefully articles will start to come out on why no one wanted to coach for a team with 2 top 15 receivers, an all pro RB, and a top 3 defense.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I think you are right. But you did also come up with the best argument for Hurts. The issue is that Hurts is not paid like the game manager that he is.

If that were door 3...pay Hurts like a game manager and let Howie cook with the roster...I'd take that all day every day.

But we've seen the Chiefs, Bills, and frankly our Eagles have meaningful talent erosions after the QBs got their money. Mahomes and Allen put on their cape and offset that for a while...but they crumbled too. Hurts definitely can't do that. That's why Sam freaking Darnold is hosting an NFCCG and 2 guys on rookie deals are in the AFCCG.

If all of the QB's aren't playing well, then advantage shifts to the cheapest QBs on the best rosters.

I considering the landscape of the NFL these days and what I said the recipe for success seems to be, I would accept Hurts well in to the future on a reasonable game manager salary. But I also have my doubts about him playing that way. He doesnt like to live in the intermediate range of the field. Tired of his 4 yard passes, and rainbow deep balls. Thats not how these other teams are winning.

Id prefer to start drafting guys.

2 hours ago, Lambo said:

I don’t hate him, he is who he is. When we end up with an OC from the lower tier, ask yourself why.

Shane Steichen and Kellen Moore didnt seem to have too many issues with Hurts. Were they low tier?

My conclusion is AJ's focus at this point is strictly about getting his next BIG payday and not about anything else. And he knows the Eagles will definitely not be extending him. Now or ever. He and his agent will have to seek a team for a contract (like Goedert last year) and see if there can be an agreement on trade compensation after. I just think his time is up here and there's no turning back. Patriots and Bills will battle it out for him. I think he would become toxic without a new deal this offseason and not worth letting this ordeal play out next season. Hopefully, they come to some resolution.

14 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Top priority of the league to see how they can further change the rules of OT to try ans get Allen an OT win.

Josh Allen in OT

4 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

They still can't say what a catch is

When I heard that a lot of officials are lawyers, I thought to myself that maybe they really need a way to litigate it.

12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Shane Steichen and Kellen Moore didnt seem to have too many issues with Hurts. Were they low tier?

First of all, 2026 will go a long way towards settling this age-old Hurts vs. the offensive coaching debate. As a preview prior to that, just how big of a name OC they nab should be pretty telling. We can be pretty confident they want a proven, established coach with serious chops. And the writing is on the wall they are happy to neuter Sirriani to facilitate this recruitment.

If all the big names still disseminate into other OC jobs, then it doesn't look good. Of course, they could hire Mike Mcdaniel tomorrow and that does look better. We'll see how it plays out.

14 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Shane Steichen and Kellen Moore didnt seem to have too many issues with Hurts. Were they low tier?

There is no indication at all that any candidate is avoiding the Eagles for Hurts, Sirriani or anyone else. That's just people here forcing a narrative

Just now, eagle45 said:

First of all, 2026 will go a long way towards settling this age-old Hurts vs. the offensive coaching debate. As a preview prior to that, just how big of a name OC they nab should be pretty telling. We can be pretty confident they want a proven, established coach with serious chops. And the writing is on the wall they are happy to neuter Sirriani to facilitate this recruitment.

If all the big names still disseminate into other OC jobs, then it doesn't look good. Of course, they could hire Mike Mcdaniel tomorrow and that does look better. We'll see how it plays out.

Who do you consider the big names McDaniel, Daboll & Kingsbury?

Josh Allen coach killer

16 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

That might be a bigger deal than a lot of people think. I had him on one of my fantasy teams this year - all the guy did was score TD's - might not reflect in his YPC but the guy got first downs and TD's when they needed it most.

10 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Josh Allen coach killer

Talk about a difference in culture between Buffalo and Philadelphia. Josh Allen can cause 4-5 turnovers in the most important games, never make it to or win a Super Bowl and it's never his fault.

Jalen Hurts can win 12 games in a row, go to 2 Super Bowls - win a Super Bowl but the second something goes wrong with the offense - it's all his fault.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I still can't get over how a majority of people think AJ Brown will be traded. The trade needs to be listed on paper:

Eagles give up:

Starting WR (AJ Brown)

$20.1m cap space (it's a 43.5m cap loss, but we are subtracting his cap number if he were on the team).

That loss of that cap space directly translates to the loss of at least one defensive starter.

Eagles get:

draft compensation

Now, think about how poorly we draft WRs, how many picks it often takes to get it right, what the first round pick (WR) we traded for AJ Brown ended up doing with their career, and how long it will take for a rookie WR to meaningfully contribute in this offense. And think about the draft pick we need on defense because of who we could not retain due to this cap hit.

To recoup the near-term lost performance we'd have in this trade, it literally might take 2 first round picks and change. And AJ Brown is probably going to fetch a 3 with 50/50 shot conditions on becoming a 2nd.

Unless he is threatening to tear the franchise apart it its very core, I simply don't see how a trade could be a remotely good thing for this team.

I'd add on the very important part that we NEED to draft Lane's replacement

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I still can't get over how a majority of people think AJ Brown will be traded. The trade needs to be listed on paper:

Eagles give up:

Starting WR (AJ Brown)

$20.1m cap space (it's a 43.5m cap loss, but we are subtracting his cap number if he were on the team).

That loss of that cap space directly translates to the loss of at least one defensive starter.

Eagles get:

draft compensation

Now, think about how poorly we draft WRs, how many picks it often takes to get it right, what the first round pick (WR) we traded for AJ Brown ended up doing with their career, and how long it will take for a rookie WR to meaningfully contribute in this offense. And think about the draft pick we need on defense because of who we could not retain due to this cap hit.

To recoup the near-term lost performance we'd have in this trade, it literally might take 2 first round picks and change. And AJ Brown is probably going to fetch a 3 with 50/50 shot conditions on becoming a 2nd.

Unless he is threatening to tear the franchise apart it its very core, I simply don't see how a trade could be a remotely good thing for this team.

A post June 1st TRADE (not cutting) of AJ Brown actually saves the team cap space for 2026- AJ Brown is VERY tradeable post June 1st.

And if AJ Brown restructures his contract with his new team (plausible), I don't think 2027 would be affected. (Not 100% sure on that - need a cap specialist).

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Talk about a difference in culture between Buffalo and Philadelphia. Josh Allen can cause 4-5 turnovers in the most important games, never make it to or win a Super Bowl and it's never his fault.

Jalen Hurts can win 12 games in a row, go to 2 Super Bowls - win a Super Bowl but the second something goes wrong with the offense - it's all his fault.

You have to look at the entire picture.

Eagles scored 19 points wild card weekend, and at that point, it was the lowest offensive output so far.

Bills scored 30 points in the divisional round, the 3rd highest point total.

Bills defense has given up 31.1 PPG in their 7 playoff losses. Imagine how we would be crushing the defense if we lost games that Hurts scored 36, 32 and 29 points. Heck, we would be pissed the two times we scored 24 points and still lost.

In 10 playoff games with Hurts at QB, the Eagles have only given up more than 23 points 3 times, 33% of the time

In 15 playoff games with Allen at QB, the Bills have given up more than 23 points 10 times, 66% of the time. They have given up more than 30 points 33% of the time.

1 minute ago, Lambo said:

You have to look at the entire picture.

Eagles scored 19 points wild card weekend, and at that point, it was the lowest offensive output so far.

Bills scored 30 points in the divisional round, the 3rd highest point total.

Bills defense has given up 31.1 PPG in their 7 playoff losses. Imagine how we would be crushing the defense if we lost games that Hurts scored 36, 32 and 29 points. Heck, we would be pissed the two times we scored 24 points and still lost.

In 10 playoff games with Hurts at QB, the Eagles have only given up more than 23 points 3 times, 33% of the time

In 15 playoff games with Allen at QB, the Bills have given up more than 23 points 10 times, 66% of the time. They have given up more than 30 points 33% of the time.

The other side of the coin is that "BIG PLAY" QB's and "BIG PLAY" offenses typically score much faster than a "Run First" ball control offense - hence the shootouts.

I understand that's not always the case but it does come into play quite a bit - more than a lot of people realize.

It saves them 6 or 7 million post June 1st, but then you'd need two WRs, one of which is AJ Brown level in quality. That is certainly going to cost you more than you've saved by trading him. So ultimately it's going to cost them a lot of cap space if you factor in any replacements. And after June 1st there really won't be any replacements available. The draft is over, the free agent market dry. And even if they wanted to say draft a replacement ahead of time and trade him later... you'd have just wasted a pick that could have been used on OL/TE/Edge/CB/S/DT on a WR because you created a hole you needed to fill. And this is a very weak WR class.

It's a move that would have ripple effects that negatively affect the roster in multiple ways. Makes them worse and lessens their cap room and impacts their ability to improve other positions.

25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd add on the very important part that we NEED to draft Lane's replacement

Everything I read says this is not a great draft for OT.

20 turn overs this past weekend, 5 per game avg. I was trying to find a stat to confirm if it is a record, haven't found anything yet. As far as individual turn over record in a playoff game, there are two tied at 6, Jake Delhomme (2009 Div rd) and Carson Palmer (2016 NFCCG).

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It saves them 6 or 7 million post June 1st, but then you'd need two WRs, one of which is AJ Brown level in quality. That is certainly going to cost you more than you've saved by trading him. So ultimately it's going to cost them a lot of cap space if you factor in any replacements. And after June 1st there really won't be any replacements available. The draft is over, the free agent market dry. And even if they wanted to say draft a replacement ahead of time and trade him later... you'd have just wasted a pick that could have been used on OL/TE/Edge/CB/S/DT on a WR because you created a hole you needed to fill. And this is a very weak WR class.

It's a move that would have ripple effects that negatively affect the roster in multiple ways. Makes them worse and lessens their cap room and impacts their ability to improve other positions.

They dont need a WR that is AJ Brown level in quality.

They can sign someone in free agency prior to the trade.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They dont need a WR that is AJ Brown level in quality.

They can sign someone in free agency prior to the trade.

It's a really weak FA class at WR. Unless you get Pickens which they obviously aren't doing.