5 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said:

This isn't going to be the only move, others are needed on the offensive side of the ball...next up should be WR coach Moorhead, I see no improvement over the 4 years especially at the 3-4 position.

I just watched Eagle Eye Podcast and they thought his job should be safe, but then gave no context as to why. I agree with you, he should be the 2nd guy out and it can't happen soon enough.

-No improvement from any of the WR.

-Worst scramble drill group of WR in the NFL.

-Terrible blocking on screens.

-Very lazy route running on plays not designed for #1 target.

You can argue that a lot of those things have to deal with individual players, but the problem is, there's no accountability from the coach. If a WR is half assing his route, pull him to teach a lesson. If he's not blocking on a play coming to his side, put in someone who will. Just once I want to see him in the face of the WR after another failed scramble to say HELP YOUR QB.

Moorehead gotta go.

21 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't disagree... but it still sucks. This weekend of football will also suck.

No Eagles football sucks for sure, even when the chances of winning were as slim as this year.

It will be interesting to see how SF‘s offense does against Seattle‘s D. I’d be surprised if SF scores more than 10-13 points.

8 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

On a new system I think Hurts needs to be both challenged and fit. Meaning I do think we need an innovative new system but that system should play to Hurts strengths. I believe that can be done. I’m sure others here don’t. In any case I’d like to see an aggressive attempt at just that

One of Hurts strengths is running. I have heard plenty of stuff on the radio that he does not want to run.

3 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

No Eagles football sucks for sure, even when the chances of winning were as slim as this year.

It will be interesting to see how SF‘s offense does against Seattle‘s D. I’d be surprised if SF scores more than 10-13 points.

Seattle gave up 3 in their final matchup. They gave up 13 in their first matchup. The tough part is that there's very little space between all 3 matchups... who knows what will happen. But, Seattle's defense has been stifling of their offense. 16 combined points... that's great in any era of football, but nearly unheard of in today's NFL.

8 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

On a new system I think Hurts needs to be both challenged and fit. Meaning I do think we need an innovative new system but that system should play to Hurts strengths. I believe that can be done. I’m sure others here don’t. In any case I’d like to see an aggressive attempt at just that

I've felt for some time that Hurts is a personality that needs to be challenged and perhaps where he needs healthy tension with someone to be fully energised and focused. He needs someone to prove wrong.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

My hope is Jeff Lurie said to Nick that if he wants to stay, he needs to hire an OC with an established philosophy who's allowed to come here and utilize the talent on the roster to fit in the scheme he brings to the table. No more hiring guys who will conform to what Nick's vision is. We've seen Nick's vision and it's limited. Whether some of those limitations are tied to Hurts is to be determined, but at the very least, a new OC, who brings an actual identity should do wonders for the team.

SB MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Hesiman Trophy winning WR, HOF trajectory WR, HOF RT, Pro Bowl LT. Yes, there are some question marks with the middle of the OL/TE/Lane but I can't think of a more attractive list of talent an incoming OC has ever walked in to. Nick has to let go of his system, whatever the F his system is and let an OC come and take the reigns and unleash the talent on the team.

34 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Honestly, i don’t think it will suck. We lucked out and the D didn’t will the team to making us watch this horrid O for another week. We should build that ref crew a statue for that btw.

Still sucks not to be in it. But I understand your point

8 minutes ago, Lambo said:

One of Hurts strengths is running. I have heard plenty of stuff on the radio that he does not want to run.

He's not very good at it anymore.

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Is this surprising? That's the exact same feeling Eagles' fans have about Sirianni if you were to average out all the various opinions. In fact, it might actually be a higher rating nationally for Sirianni than locally. Nationally it might be healthy skepticism, here its more of a earned skepticism. We see him day in, day out, hear from him, day in, day out... and we remember all the antics, shenanigans and embarrassing moments... not to mention the ineptitude of the offense when he was calling the plays OR the ineptitude of the offense every time he's more hands on with the offense... like the early part of 2021, 2023 and now 2025. Take away Steichen and Moore and this offense is a bottom 5-10 offense over the Sirianni years. The question is... who should get the lion's share of the blame? So far the fall guy has always been the OC, but how many more swings and misses at OC is he going to be permitted?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Seattle gave up 3 in their final matchup. They gave up 13 in their first matchup. The tough part is that there's very little space between all 3 matchups... who knows what will happen. But, Seattle's defense has been stifling of their offense. 16 combined points... that's great in any era of football, but nearly unheard of in today's NFL.

Yeah, they have been really good this year and played superb against the 9ers twice.

I guess that’s what I was hoping for from our D against them. It’s not like SF was some kind of juggernaut, especially with all their injuries on both sides of the ball.

Sure, different circumstances, but that was my frustration with our D last Sunday.

4 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

I've felt for some time that Hurts is a personality that needs to be challenged and perhaps where he needs healthy tension with someone to be fully energised and focused. He needs someone to prove wrong.

Shall we introduce him to @HazletonEagle ?

The thing I will say about Sirianni and his antics with fans etc.. all that is fine and dandy when you’re winning and things are going well, but they will certainly backfire tremendously when the team isn’t performing and games are lost. It’s not only the fans, but also the players start to lose respect because you’ve lowered your own bar of authority and respect thru silliness.

Things I want from an OC

• An actual scheme that marries the run/pass. We had way too many tells. Best way to help out the offense is not being so predictable.

• An external hire so they can fire the bad position coaches like Aaron Moorehead and cut the bad players like Calcaterra. No loyalty, just meritocracy.

• Some emphasis on speed. We're slow on offense with the exception of Saquon Barkley. It's been a problem for 2 years and why it's hard to get explosive. This can be WR3, but it has to be someone.

• Someone who will tell Jalen/Nick that "this is how it is"

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

This is 100% facts. I've never seen Sirianni outcoach anybody, elevate the talent, or develop coaches under him. I really think any mid level head coach could come in and do just as well or better.

8 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

The thing I will say about Sirianni and his antics with fans etc.. all that is fine and dandy when you’re winning and things are going well, but they will certainly backfire tremendously when the team isn’t performing and games are lost. It’s not only the fans, but also the players start to lose respect because you’ve lowered your own bar of authority and respect thru silliness.

Yep. I've been saying this for years. It's front runner mentality. It's also just juvenile and embarrassing.

12 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Out of curiosity...to see if we are all on the same page:

A. Eagles hire an OC who will call plays and participate in game planning/scheme. But they will largely, deferentially exist within the framework Siri wants.

B. Eagles hire an OC who will call plays and dictate game planning/scheme. This is their offense. They construct it. Siri sits in meetings, talks to everyone, but takes a back seat.

IMO, there is a 100% certainty which of these will happen. I'm just not sure if everyone sees it that way?

A

What's the point of him if B happens. Talk about wasting millions on a position

9 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

On a new system I think Hurts needs to be both challenged and fit. Meaning I do think we need an innovative new system but that system should play to Hurts strengths. I believe that can be done. I’m sure others here don’t. In any case I’d like to see an aggressive attempt at just that

It should be something he likes and is comfortable with

It'll be interesting to see if he runs more considering there was that report that he doesn't want to anymore

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

Things I want from an OC

• An actual scheme that marries the run/pass. We had way too many tells. Best way to help out the offense is not being so predictable.

• An external hire so they can fire the bad position coaches like Aaron Moorehead and cut the bad players like Calcaterra. No loyalty, just meritocracy.

• Some emphasis on speed. We're slow on offense with the exception of Saquon Barkley. It's been a problem for 2 years and why it's hard to get explosive. This can be WR3, but it has to be someone.

• Someone who will tell Jalen/Nick that "this is how it is"

Sounds like Monken.

22 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Shall we introduce him to @HazletonEagle ?

And sell the rights to DAZN to stream...

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Really feels like everyone wants to move on from Nick without moving on from Nick because he was part of a SB win. Goes back to my whole "what's the point of having him?"

20 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

My hope is Jeff Lurie said to Nick that if he wants to stay, he needs to hire an OC with an established philosophy who's allowed to come here and utilize the talent on the roster to fit in the scheme he brings to the table. No more hiring guys who will conform to what Nick's vision is. We've seen Nick's vision and it's limited. Whether some of those limitations are tied to Hurts is to be determined, but at the very least, a new OC, who brings an actual identity should do wonders for the team.

SB MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Hesiman Trophy winning WR, HOF trajectory WR, HOF RT, Pro Bowl LT. Yes, there are some question marks with the middle of the OL/TE/Lane but I can't think of a more attractive list of talent an incoming OC has ever walked in to. Nick has to let go of his system, whatever the F his system is and let an OC come and take the reigns and unleash the talent on the team.

Spot on. My wonder is, has Sirianni's personality and character just worn off on players to the point, they don't really buy in unless were winning. When times get tough and we get smacked in the mouth a little bit after a tough loss, can Sirianni find ways to get guys to stay focused and dig deep, or are the same post game speeches not carrying any weight anymore? And do you have guys in that locker room that see Sirianni after the Buffalo game in the tunnel say "Dang, that's a little childish"........the players do seem to like the fact that what you see is what you get with Sirianni, but he needs to adapt himself. He needs to adapt as the years change, as the rosters change, as the league changes etc.......players will follow you if you lead them the right way.......the sooner Nick realizes that he can make his mark as a very good HC by keeping the guys focused but letting his coordinators and staff handle their s***.......the better off we will be and have chances at more success.......but if Nick cannot realize that and if ego sets in because he feels the need to prove it to the world, then he needs to be fired.

Fans can say and think what they want, Lurie and AJ Brown seem very close......I can see Lurie giving AJ some tough love and criticism behind closed doors about 2025, but also wanting to gauge the locker room vibe from AJ's point of view. Heck, AJ may be 100% checked out and want out of Philly if it involved Sirianni, but guys need to stop acting like this guy is a complete POS.....yes he should feel guilty for his lack of effort and feel guilty cashing a paycheck that really wasn't earned in 2025......but he is a VERY talented receiver that wants to contribute. A new OC with full control and no Nick Sirianni involvement can help mend this issue with AJ Brown (I believe).

And if that option is on the fence, then is Nick Sirianni really needed, wanted, respected and vouched for? Sincerely? Not just saying that when a reporter microphone is in your face. This all comes down to what is really said and felt behind closed doors.

I'm actually kind of excited right now. For years, we've been talking about this offense is just wasting talent. DeVonta Smith is one of the premiere route runners in the NFL and they have him running the most basic route tree out there. AJ Brown is a bully and they NEVER use him as a physical mismatch. Saquon Barkley and Tank Bigsby could be a 1500/700 yard duo if used right.

A competent OC who has no ties to Nick and runs his own scheme here could take this team to another level.

35 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

My hope is Jeff Lurie said to Nick that if he wants to stay, he needs to hire an OC with an established philosophy who's allowed to come here and utilize the talent on the roster to fit in the scheme he brings to the table. No more hiring guys who will conform to what Nick's vision is. We've seen Nick's vision and it's limited. Whether some of those limitations are tied to Hurts is to be determined, but at the very least, a new OC, who brings an actual identity should do wonders for the team.

SB MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Hesiman Trophy winning WR, HOF trajectory WR, HOF RT, Pro Bowl LT. Yes, there are some question marks with the middle of the OL/TE/Lane but I can't think of a more attractive list of talent an incoming OC has ever walked in to. Nick has to let go of his system, whatever the F his system is and let an OC come and take the reigns and unleash the talent on the team.

I honestly think the notion that Nick is forcing a coach to run his system is overstated. Steichen came in and at the time it was reasonable for them to build something together and Nick originally called plays. When Steichen left it was after Super Bowl and they internal hire wasn't going to blow things up. Moore came in and made incremental changes but there's a good chance he changed more if he stayed for year 2. At the time they had considered Kingsbury and I very much doubt Kingsbury was going to come in and run the old system. With Patullo they just made a bad move after SB again. My point is I think they'll make a system change and I don't think it will be Lurie forcing Nick to do it. He seems more open to change than people give him credit for.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

I honestly think the notion that Nick is forcing a coach to run his system is overstated. Steichen came in and at the time it was reasonable for them to build something together and Nick originally called plays. When Steichen left it was after Super Bowl and they internal hire wasn't going to blow things up. Moore came in and made incremental changes but there's a good chance he changed more if he stayed for year 2. At the time they had considered Kingsbury and I very much doubt Kingsbury was going to come in and run the old system. With Patullo they just made a bad move after SB again. My point is I think they'll make a system change and I don't think it will be Lurie forcing Nick to do it. He seems more open to change than people give him credit for.

To an extent yes, but then you hear DeVonta Smith, who doesn't say much, but when he does it carries a lot of weight say they've basically been running the same offense the last 5 years. THAT is telling. We see it every Sunday and we're just fans. Think of what professional coaches and athletes think when they watch tape on the Eagles. It's not that hard do defend.

The Eagles won the SB behind an all-time season from Saquon Barkley running behind what many could argue was one of the NFL's best OL ever put together. All of the pieces lined up. Even last year though, through all of the winning, through the 2K yards for Saquon, we knew the offensive philosophy was get as close to 3rd/4th and short as possible so we can Tush Push. Get as close to the GL as possible so we can Tush Push. We joke about it, but there were times they ran the play 2-3 times in a row. THAT was their plan.