21 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

By the sounds of that tweet, if we were to hire Weiss Jr - he would answer to Sirianni/Howie a lot - Weiss has very little NFL experience. I don't want that for our team - just causes drama

He’s got play calling experience. Innovative. That’s what we haven’t had in a while

19 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Yeah he makes the playoffs. 5 years a s a starter and has made the playoffs 5 years.

Who are the QBs that are going to the playoffs every year as a starter even if they are having to deal with far from ideal circumstances?

This isn't a dysfunctional organization to you? Hire HC. Power struggle ensues and GM is pushed to brook closet. Down year and HC fired and GM takes back control. New HC hired that can be a puppet. HC wins Super Bowl. Power struggle ensues. Super Bowl winning HC fired. New HC brought in that can be a puppet. Go to Super Bowl, lose both coordinators. Next season has a collapse, team panic fires the DC and things just get worse. Hire new DC and OC and win Super Bowl. OC gets HC job and HC with the sliver of power he has gained uses it to hire completely unqualified friend to be a terrible OC. Now OC fired. All the while during all of this over the years you have constant internal leaks to the media throwing mud at various different people and players. It is dysfunctional.

Sorry, you can't play the SB card with your guy and then say it's dysfunctional.

No OC is saying I can't wait to coach Hurts and bring out all his abilities in the passing game because he is limited as a passer. He outplayed Mahomes making plays with his legs. He isn't doing that anymore and is slowing down with age.

We can agree the Eagles are lucky to have him over what some teams have, but he is limited and is not some tempting talent for OCs to come in here and coach.

4 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Hurts has no guarantees on his contract after 2026. So they would need to extend him this offseason when is stock is lower, or ride it out and see if/how he can improve.

This is a make it or break it year for hurts. If he plays the same way he did this year, he’s as good as gone

Maybe the FO is making Siri live or die with his offense and really giving him the reigns on this. If it doesn't work out and they go 9-8 or something they clean slate with Siri and Hurts. This is the last season before a big overhaul opportunity.

17 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Exactly. Did Burrow, Herbert, et al win bad with offensive lines? We had the worst center in the league to go along with one of the worst lines with the worst group of blocking TEs in the league, and the worst OC with the worst scheme I've seen since the early 70s and we all knew it and complained about it from the first game of the season.

Your argument: Hurts only wins with good play from all units and can't overcome bad play from the same units, so he never gets credit for the good and gets the lions share of blame for the bad.

Other QBs you like more can't overcome poor play from the other units but you don't assign them the blame for losing and if only rhey had a good team around them they would win SBs at an unprecedented rate.

You logic, and those in your camp, is absurd. It literally makes no sense.

So you make my point that Hurts needs all those things to succeed. We agree. That being said Hurts is limited as a passing QB. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is a homer. Someone like JH doesn't have those limitations. Is he a Brady or Mahomes? No, he also needs better talent around him, but if he had what Hurts has had the last few years he would have at least had the same results with that defense, with those WRs, with Barkley, and with a good TE. Hurts making plays with his legs was a huge part of his success. That's fading. OCs know that and they would prefer to go to teams who don't have QBs with those limitations. Again, the Eagles are lucky to have him over other QBs out there, but he is limited and people know it.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

She a 4 or 5 bro but that's without the personality being deducted

Mine's a 10 fo sho

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Sorry, you can't play the SB card with your guy and then say it's dysfunctional.

No OC is saying I can't wait to coach Hurts and bring out all his abilities in the passing game because he is limited as a passer. He outplayed Mahomes making plays with his legs. He isn't doing that anymore and is slowing down with age.

We can agree the Eagles are lucky to have him over what some teams have, but he is limited and is not some tempting talent for OCs to come in here and coach.

Why can't I say it is dysfunctional? It has clearly been dysfunctional since the Chip Kelly and Roseman fiasco.

He outplayed Mahomes with his legs and arms.

First Super Bowl

Mahomes: 77.7%, 182 yards, 6.7 YPA

Hurts: 71.5%, 304 yards, 8.0 YPA

Second Super Bowl

Mahomes: 65.6%, 257 yards, 8.0 YPA, 2 interceptions

Hurts: 77.3%, 221 yards. 10.0 YPA

He is no more limited than any other QB in the league. People dont want to come here because "fans" like you are a total disgrace and make working in Philadelphia in professional sports a total misery.

7 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

He’s got play calling experience. Innovative. That’s what we haven’t had in a while

Yea at the college level. We just got done wasting a year because of an inexperienced play caller and you want to hand the keys over to Weiss Jr? Come on bro

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I would have thought Stout is adaptable considering he's survived multiple HC cycles. Have we run the same run concepts since Chip?

Tbh I don’t think it has anything to do with Stoutland himself or his ability. Cause I’m sure he’s well respected around the league. It’s just that guys wanna bring in their own guys who they’ve worked with and comfortable with. I’m sure that stoutland could do the job that they coach ask of him. But I think it’s more these guys have preferences on who they want and guys they worked with.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So you make my point that Hurts needs all those things to succeed. We agree. That being said Hurts is limited as a passing QB. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is a homer. Someone like JH doesn't have those limitations. Is he a Brady or Mahomes? No, he also needs better talent around him, but if he had what Hurts has had the last few years he would have at least had the same results. Hurts making plays with his legs was a huge part of his success. That's fading. OCs know that and they would prefer to go to teams who don't have QBs with those limitations. Again, the Eagles are lucky to have him over other QBs out there, but he is limited and people know it.

Herbert is limited. Extremely limited mentally. That is why he pisses down his legs the rare times he is able to make into the playoffs.

Mike wont even interview, Dabol turned them down and doesnt want the job. Seems like a real problem here to me. If it was such a desirable position they wouldnt have to play third fiddle.

11 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Hurts has no guarantees on his contract after 2026. So they would need to extend him this offseason when his stock is lower, or ride it out and see if/how he can improve.

That’s not entirely true. If Jalen hurts is on the roster the third day of the new league year in 2026, $22 million is guaranteed in 2027.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Why can't I say it is dysfunctional? It has clearly been dysfunctional since the Chip Kelly and Roseman fiasco.

He outplayed Mahomes with his legs and arms.

First Super Bowl

Mahomes: 77.7%, 182 yards, 6.7 YPA

Hurts: 71.5%, 304 yards, 8.0 YPA

Second Super Bowl

Mahomes: 65.6%, 257 yards, 8.0 YPA, 2 interceptions

Hurts: 77.3%, 221 yards. 10.0 YPA

He is no more limited than any other QB in the league. People dont want to come here because "fans" like you are a total disgrace and make working in Philadelphia in professional sports a total misery.

That card doesn't work. Dysfunctional teams don't make 3 SBs in the last 8 years winning two.

Cute how you left off the INT from the second SB with Hurts. Did he play well? Yeah, we agree, but his legs were a massive part of SB1. Those are fading. I'd still take him over a lot of QBs in the league, but that isn't what this is about.

Point again is he has limitations as to what he can do, the throws he can make, his anticipation, him taking too long to process. Even if Nick agrees to be hands off he limits the type of plays they can call and that's why McD is in LA. Does he like the CA vibes with his flood pants? Sure. But he can use his full playbook with JH and he couldn't with Hurts.

4 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

Yea at the college level. We just got done wasting a year because of an inexperienced play caller and you want to hand the keys over to Weiss Jr? Come on bro

I am just saying your alternative with what is available out there is not much better. So the guy has NFL experience play calling and was underwhelming or not good somewhere else in the nfl isn’t necessarily better just cause he has nfl experience as a play caller.

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So you make my point that Hurts needs all those things to succeed. We agree. That being said Hurts is limited as a passing QB. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is a homer. Someone like JH doesn't have those limitations. Is he a Brady or Mahomes? No, he also needs better talent around him, but if he had what Hurts has had the last few years he would have at least had the same results with that defense, with those WRs, with Barkley, and with a good TE. Hurts making plays with his legs was a huge part of his success. That's fading. OCs know that and they would prefer to go to teams who don't have QBs with those limitations. Again, the Eagles are lucky to have him over other QBs out there, but he is limited and people know it.

We saw in the Chargers game what happens when you open the game up even a little with Hurts. No one wants to come here and have to plan a game where you have to play to your QBs weaknesses instead of strengths. The guy needs everything to be perfect. His entire game needs to be micromanaged.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

That card doesn't work. Dysfunctional teams don't make 3 SBs in the last 8 years winning two.

Cute how you left off the INT from the second SB with Hurts. Did he play well? Yeah, we agree, but his legs were a massive part of SB1. Those are fading. I'd still take him over a lot of QBs in the league, but that isn't what this is about.

Point again is he has limitations as to what he can do, the throws he can make, his anticipation, him taking too long to process. Even if Nick agrees to be hands off he limits the type of plays they can call and that's why McD is in LA. Does he like the CA vibes with his flood pants? Sure. But he can use his full playbook with JH and he couldn't with Hurts.

Dysfunctional teams do because the Eagles have made 3 Super Bowls. It is what it is though. If you come to work here you will have to work within a highly dysfunctional structure and deal with completely ungrateful fairweather fans with a complwtely cancerous local sports media on top of it.

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Why can't I say it is dysfunctional? It has clearly been dysfunctional since the Chip Kelly and Roseman fiasco.

He outplayed Mahomes with his legs and arms.

First Super Bowl

Mahomes: 77.7%, 182 yards, 6.7 YPA

Hurts: 71.5%, 304 yards, 8.0 YPA

Second Super Bowl

Mahomes: 65.6%, 257 yards, 8.0 YPA, 2 interceptions

Hurts: 77.3%, 221 yards. 10.0 YPA

He is no more limited than any other QB in the league. People dont want to come here because "fans" like you are a total disgrace and make working in Philadelphia in professional sports a total misery.

Facing different defenses is the key component in those SBs that you're ignoring

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Facing different defenses is the key component in those SBs that you're ignoring

Are we going to try to do a revisionist history now and claim the Chiefs didnt have great defenses during their run, specifically the years the Eagles played them? Anything to discredit Jalen Hurts, right.

9 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

Yea at the college level. We just got done wasting a year because of an inexperienced play caller and you want to hand the keys over to Weiss Jr? Come on bro

We wasted a year one someone with NO play calling experience

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Are we going to try to do a revisionist history now and claim the Chiefs didnt have great defenses during their run, specifically the years the Eagles played them? Anything to discredit Jalen Hurts, right.

Not to discredit Hurts. I'm just giving the defense majority of the credit for the win

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Not to discredit Hurts. I'm just giving the defense majority of the credit for the win

I would expect nothing else from you.

if it’s not gonna be Joe Brady, who I wanted them to hire as the head coach before they hired sirianni. I was happy with Nick being hired, especially considering the fact the other candidate was Josh McDaniels.

I liked slowik when there were rumors after 2023 about sirianni potentially being fired. He did a very good job with CJ Stroud his rookie year in 2023. Now the following year they took a step back. But really the reason he got fired was there was tension between him and CJ Stroud in the locker room. they decided to move on. Considering the fact the Texans offense looked just as bad this year with CJ Stroud as it did in 2024 kind of makes me believe CJ Stroud is the bigger problem in that situation. i’m guessing that spat revolved around stroud thinking he knew more and didn’t care for what was said to him. 

LOL

1 minute ago, Eriv20 said:

We wasted a year one someone with NO play calling experience

Right so why do it again, that's my point. Don't make that same mistake twice.......I won't doubt that Weiss could be a good coordinator, I just don't think we are setup for that risk in 2026 coming off a disappointing season where a lot of your veteran players seemed meh at the play calling.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No offense, I don’t think the fans have anything to do with offensive coordinators wanting to come here. If that were the case players would not also wanna come here because fans are hard on the players. That’s not been a problem.

Yup...the big appeal for any coach is the organization and the culture first, then the personnel. The big name guys, like McDaniels are walking in with leverage...they are getting HC considerations. I would hope that after the interview with McDaniels, the brain trust excused Sirianni from the room and had a serious conversation about considering McDaniels to replace him now. High quality coaches have demonstrated enough competency and confidence, that rowdy fans aren't even on the radar. They understand that nothing silences idiots faster than success.

These guys are not walking in with anything less than full autonomy over personnel and play calling on their minds. They carry way too much leverage to negotiate. And ...because of the taint from what all of us just experienced...the brain trust better have communicated to Sirianni that he is on a very tight leash.