1 minute ago, Maga301 said:

Right so why do it again, that's my point. Don't make that same mistake twice.......I won't doubt that Weiss could be a good coordinator, I just don't think we are setup for that risk in 2026 coming off a disappointing season where a lot of your veteran players seemed meh at the play calling.

We wouldn’t be doing it again. We’d be giving a coach with offensive play calling experience a job.

But in all reality, it’s Siri’s system. Should’ve fired the coach

Another thing that bothers me is this is a premiere organization. Very successful, wins championships, makes the playoffs every year. What's happening right now is stuff you see typically happen with the Browns. Honestly, it's disrespectful. But at the same time for an organization this good, something has to be off somewhere for people to not want to come here to this degree. Maybe Daboll gets the Bills job and he never would've been in play to begin with. But if they get rejected a couple more times, it's going to be DEFCON 1 time. And would honestly destroy any excitement for 2026 before free agency even starts let alone the draft, camp, and season.

I hope Howie/Lurie are doing some internal reflection from this

2 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

We wouldn’t be doing it again. We’d be giving a coach with offensive play calling experience a job.

But in all reality, it’s Siri’s system. Should’ve fired the coach

Now that I do agree with - and have no F'ing idea why we did not evaluate that more after the loss.

I'm sorry but I see the clip of Sirianni after the BUF game while walking past AJ and I think that clip alone sums it up, I see players believing less and less in Sirianni as time goes on.

1 minute ago, aptosbird said:

Yup...the big appeal for any coach is the organization and the culture first, then the personnel. The big name guys, like McDaniels are walking in with leverage...they are getting HC considerations. I would hope that after the interview with McDaniels, the brain trust excused Sirianni from the room and had a serious conversation about considering McDaniels to replace him now. High quality coaches have demonstrated enough competency and confidence, that rowdy fans aren't even on the radar. They understand that nothing silences idiots faster than success.

These guys are not walking in with anything less than full autonomy over personnel and play calling on their minds. They carry way too much leverage to negotiate. And ...because of the taint from what all of us just experienced...the brain trust better have communicated to Sirianni that he is on a very tight leash.

I know you guys really love McDaniel, but I am not sold on him as a head coach. we complained about AJ Brown being a pain in the ass with social media. Tyreek Hill did exactly the same type of stuff and was a pain in the ass. Not only that he had defensive players running their mouth and contributed to him firing Fangio. And clearly now we see Fangio was far from the problem.

I would also add I watched his press conferences over the years. When he started out, he was very eloquent and articulate. Like you gravitated to him and was easy to see he was a bright star. When you watched him over the last two years, it’s steadily got worse. To the point he wasn’t even coherent in some of his press conferences. Like we had fans go after Sirriani for his flower presser, his introductory presser and some of the stuff he said and press conferences. If you watch Mike McDaniel be incoherent and lost I don’t know how that would go over especially when things begin to unravel or turbulent times

Not as important, but it makes me wonder he started off very low-key. By the time he left the dolphins he looked like an entirely different person living the lifestyle of Miami. By the time he left, he looked like he was a fashion mogul, trying to fit in with the lifestyle of Miami. To the point there were memes about the change over time. I don’t think that’s a make or break, but I do wonder if he gets caught up in the lifestyle of what the NFL and he has to reign himself back in.

I liked the comparison some poster here made the other day. Sirianni is the HC version of Howie before Howie figured out how to draft.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I know you guys really love McDaniel, but I am not sold on him as a head coach. we complained about AJ Brown being a pain in the ass with social media. Tyreek Hill did exactly the same type of stuff and was a pain in the ass. Not only that he had defensive players running their mouth and contributed to him firing Fangio. And clearly now we see Fangio was far from the problem.

I would also add I watched his press conferences over the years. When he started out, he was very eloquent and articulate. Like you gravitated to him and was easy to see he was a bright star. When you watched him over the last two years, it’s steadily got worse. To the point he wasn’t even coherent in some of his press conferences. Like we had fans go after Siriani for his flower one and some of the stuff he said and press conferences. If you watch Mike McDaniel be incoherent and lost I don’t know how that would go over.

Not as important, but it makes me wonder he started off very low-key. By the time he left the dolphins he looked like an entirely different person living the lifestyle of Miami. By the time he left, he looked like he was a fashion mogul, trying to fit in with the lifestyle of Miami. To the point there were memes about the change over time. I don’t think that’s a make or break, but I do wonder if he gets caught up in the lifestyle of what the NFL and he has to reign himself back in.

I wouldn't be all surprised if the California climate and lifestyle wasn't a consideration for the LA coaching job for McDaniel. Just wait til he sits in the hour-long, non-rush hour traffic. There is a reason I don't drive further south than Santa Barbara and if I am going to San Diego I fly...you know what they say...UCLA on a clear day only

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Another thing that bothers me is this is a premiere organization. Very successful, wins championships, makes the playoffs every year. What's happening right now is stuff you see typically happen with the Browns. Honestly, it's disrespectful. But at the same time for an organization this good, something has to be off somewhere for people to not want to come here to this degree. Maybe Daboll gets the Bills job and he never would've been in play to begin with. But if they get rejected a couple more times, it's going to be DEFCON 1 time. And would honestly destroy any excitement for 2026 before free agency even starts let alone the draft, camp, and season.

I said this a couple weeks ago even if you get the right OC it does not mean you’re not gonna take another step back in 2026. The potential of guys that you were going to lose could hamper you. Your coordinator could come in and do a good job considering the talent they have and what they lose. But there’s a chance at the end of 2026 that Lurie says to himself we need to revamp this entire offense. We are at a different point in time and need a new direction. fires everyone but fangio and stoutland.

I think Nick deserves another year. But I find it very curious the news came out that lurie nearly fired him after 2023 and then going into the bye in 2024 there was talks about firing him. that coming out now was not by accident. Somebody wanted that put out there. That could’ve come out after sirianni was gone sometime down the road. So I asked myself who would want that out there? It’s not gonna be Nick Sirianni. It’s not his agent. Feels like lurie who expects the offense and team to function better than what we say 2023 to the bye and this year.

7 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

I wouldn't be all surprised if the California climate and lifestyle wasn't a consideration for the LA coaching job for McDaniel. Just wait til he sits in the hour-long, non-rush hour traffic. There is a reason I don't drive further south than Santa Barbara and if I am going to San Diego I fly...you know what they say...UCLA on a clear day only

Oh, I 100% think it was part of the decision. I just kind of look at McDaniel similarly to Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniels was a terrible head coach. But as a coordinator, he has done a very good even great job multiple times. Now I don’t think McDaniel is as much of an ahole as Josh McDaniels. But I just kind of get the same sense that he would be so much better off being a lifelong OC that makes a ton of money doing that and staying with one organization and not having all the other stuff he has to do as head coach.

20 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

Yup...the big appeal for any coach is the organization and the culture first, then the personnel. The big name guys, like McDaniels are walking in with leverage...they are getting HC considerations. I would hope that after the interview with McDaniels, the brain trust excused Sirianni from the room and had a serious conversation about considering McDaniels to replace him now. High quality coaches have demonstrated enough competency and confidence, that rowdy fans aren't even on the radar. They understand that nothing silences idiots faster than success.

These guys are not walking in with anything less than full autonomy over personnel and play calling on their minds. They carry way too much leverage to negotiate. And ...because of the taint from what all of us just experienced...the brain trust better have communicated to Sirianni that he is on a very tight leash.

Well, glad you acknowledged Philadelphia fans are idiots. Subsequently, full autonomy over personnel? Nobody's getting that in Philadelphia because Howie's here, unless you just mean freedom to bench or start anyone they want, which is also not happening because Howie's here, and no one benches the QB without authorization from Howie and quite possibly Jeff.

Maybe that's why both of the last time we've looked for head coaches, we've ended up with leftovers no one wanted? We've turned those into great successes, but both times we ended up with leftovers.

15 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I liked the comparison some poster here made the other day. Sirianni is the HC version of Howie before Howie figured out how to draft.

Including how most of Philadelphia wanted him gone immediately!

I don't know if I fully agree, but I kinda get where it's going, yeah.

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Eek. Eagles lose out on another.

Ya…nobody is jumping to go to that org to run an O led by Cam Ward. Not sure I believe this.

We'll probably have someone for a year and if we still have problems on offense then Howie/Lurie do a hard restart and move on from Nick and Hurts

44 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Maybe the FO is making Siri live or die with his offense and really giving him the reigns on this. If it doesn't work out and they go 9-8 or something they clean slate with Siri and Hurts. This is the last season before a big overhaul opportunity.

I don't see it. I think there are people who legitimately don't want to be in Philadelphia. And when I think about the city/media/fanbase (these should be grouped together), Head Coach, and QB, I'm sorry, but my rank definitely doesn't include the HC first, especially because Moore can back him up pretty easily on how the interaction was. Fans are never going to admit that dealing with the fans and media are an issue, but people don't necessarily want to accept that kind of stress, along with their families. Walking into a place where only a Super Bowl win is acceptable, when they've never won a Super Bowl before isn't exactly comforting.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

We'll probably have someone for a year and if we still have problems on offense then Howie/Lurie do a hard restart and move on from Nick and Hurts

That’s definitely in the realm of possibility

2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Nick was a deep choice as well. When has Howie/Lurie actually gotten a top candidate?

Chimp Kelly? Dougie P?

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

Chimp Kelly? Dougie P?

Definitely not Doug

5 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Well, glad you acknowledged Philadelphia fans are idiots.

Ummm yeah....no I didn't. There are idiots everywhere I was speaking in general terms.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It could very well still be Nick. Just because the Eagles promised them they would have autonomy and control of the offense doesn't mean they believe it. From what Josina said the Eagles told Kellen Moore he would have control of the offense and he very clearly didn't have full autonomy.

I mean, if Kellen Moore didn't have "full autonomy", then does Nick get some credit for 2024? I thought the running narrative was that every time we do well he does nothing, and every time it goes badly he's the primary person who's running everything, so isn't it a paradox for him to be doing nothing, but Kellen Moore not having full autonomy?

Just saying?

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

We'll probably have someone for a year and if we still have problems on offense then Howie/Lurie do a hard restart and move on from Nick and Hurts

If it’s Cooter, I’d take the odds on this is what happens, especially the Sirianni part

1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I mean, if Kellen Moore didn't have "full autonomy", then does Nick get some credit for 2024? I thought the running narrative was that every time we do well he does nothing, and every time it goes badly he's the primary person who's running everything, so isn't it a paradox for him to be doing nothing, but Kellen Moore not having full autonomy?

Just saying?

It's very well documented what happened during the bye and switching to a run heavy team under Saqoun, which was Nick's decision.

Can we just skip this season and go into the full reset?

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

We'll probably have someone for a year and if we still have problems on offense then Howie/Lurie do a hard restart and move on from Nick and Hurts

I think if they fail to get to the playoffs and frankly it might be past a wildcard round that there is a chance your head coach is getting fired. I don’t think it was just randomness that story about Sirianni’s job status after 2023 and into the bye week in 2024 was just put out there. I would say hurts is not coming back too, but I don’t think they’d make that reset yet. Because hurts has $22 million guaranteed for 2027 if he’s on the roster this year on the third day of the new league year. Easier to move on after 2027. That said i do think the wheels would be out in motion of a succession plan 

That said let’s just hope that it doesnt come to that cause otherwise it might be a hard watch in 2026

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's very well documented what happened during the bye and switching to a run heavy team under Saqoun, which was Nick's decision.

Yep. I know, but I'm kind of just saying that it's a bit of a paradox because no one gives him any credit for it. Mind you, if that's when the switch happened then...

Well...

I mean that'd imply that like a lot of people said, they tried to put it on Jalen's shoulders at first...then supposedly they almost fired Nick during the bye week...

Starting to wonder if Howie and Lurie are a problem too when you think about it in that order.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Bills owner is currently doing a tell all..

Maybe they’ll take Hurts off our hands for Allen. Blow up their roster and start over