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Jets definitely tanking.

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

LOL

That will cause a meltdown here.

by the way guys, Ive been getting very busy in IWTETG over the past few days if anyone is ready to look at some draft prospects. I have a lot of guys who are not big names, at least as of yet.

I also have a few names that have no youtube video yet so Im going to make a document and hopefully remember to check it so I can go back to these guys to make a thread.

@BigEFly @Joe Ball

Whats the word around Texas on CB Charles Demmings from Stephen F. Austin?

When he blows up the senior bowl, just how high is he going to fly up draft boards?

Can we be thinking this year's Quinyon Mitchell?

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

That will cause a meltdown here.

I don’t think so. I think most recognize Reich is not a good play caller and doesn’t really run an offense we want to keep. I suppose if you hired a Doyle then Reich as a senior assistant could help gameplan which was effective in 2017

21 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I don’t think so. I think most recognize Reich is not a good play caller and doesn’t really run an offense we want to keep. I suppose if you hired a Doyle then Reich as a senior assistant could help gameplan which was effective in 2017

I believe I remember the name coming up numerous times throughout the season.

30 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

@BigEFly @Joe Ball

Whats the word around Texas on CB Charles Demmings from Stephen F. Austin?

When he blows up the senior bowl, just how high is he going to fly up draft boards?

Can we be thinking this year's Quinyon Mitchell?

Youtuber Broshmo has him a sleeper 6 -1 185 lbs. ( PFF has him at 190 ) He allowed 19 catches on 37 targets for 246 yards and 1 TD

39.8 passer rating this year with 4 INTs and 6 PBUs

PFF grade of 79.6

definately worth a day 2 look

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

LOL

He will be our OC.

3 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

I don’t think so. I think most recognize Reich is not a good play caller and doesn’t really run an offense we want to keep. I suppose if you hired a Doyle then Reich as a senior assistant could help gameplan which was effective in 2017

According to Nick Foles...This Sirriani offense is actually Reich offense

15 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Thats how you leave the party with a 4

Sorry my old friend but in my experience 4s are the last to go off the board late after the drinking turns them into a 9

21 hours ago, jojodancer said:

This is stupid talk. Hurts outplayed Mahomes in 2 different Superbowls. Should have won the first one if not for a no show by Bradberry and the defense. The 2nd one, Barkley was a non factor and he needed to step up. Became one sided because defense played with a huge lead and could pin their ears back with Milton Williams and Jalen Carter. Its called complimentary football. Hurts running and passing were significant.

Not to detract from Hurts MVP performance…but Barkley was 10000000000% a factor in the SB win. To say he wasn’t is absolutely crazy, the Chiefs literally sold out defensively to stop him and challenged Hurts to beat them. At the 1/3 mark into the game it was over when Coop returned that pick 6. There was maybe 23 mins of competitive football in that game, maybe and 23 is a stretch lol.

I'm not sold on Becton coming back, not sure trying to recreate the magic from last year is the right move. Another thought I had was it feels like he's been around forever and this OL is already aging and injury prone but he's just turning 27 in April. To compare, Steen turns 26 in June. He should he in his prime.

Maybe buying low after a bad season for Becton isn't that bad of an idea after all. Give him a 2 or 3-year deal but still make sure to address OL in the draft, make Steen OL6 and hope one or two of the projects can contribute in some way.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sold on Becton coming back, not sure trying to recreate the magic from last year is the right move. Another thought I had was it feels like he's been around forever and this OL is already aging and injury prone but he's just turning 27 in April. To compare, Steen turns 26 in June. He should he in his prime.

Maybe buying low after a bad season for Becton isn't that bad of an idea after all. Give him a 2 or 3-year deal but still make sure to address OL in the draft, make Steen OL6 and hope one or two of the projects can contribute in some way.

I'd be good with Becton at a mid number (less than he got). It allows us to focus on OT in draft

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sold on Becton coming back, not sure trying to recreate the magic from last year is the right move. Another thought I had was it feels like he's been around forever and this OL is already aging and injury prone but he's just turning 27 in April. To compare, Steen turns 26 in June. He should he in his prime.

Maybe buying low after a bad season for Becton isn't that bad of an idea after all. Give him a 2 or 3-year deal but still make sure to address OL in the draft, make Steen OL6 and hope one or two of the projects can contribute in some way.

Draft Keylan Rutledge.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sold on Becton coming back, not sure trying to recreate the magic from last year is the right move. Another thought I had was it feels like he's been around forever and this OL is already aging and injury prone but he's just turning 27 in April. To compare, Steen turns 26 in June. He should he in his prime.

Maybe buying low after a bad season for Becton isn't that bad of an idea after all. Give him a 2 or 3-year deal but still make sure to address OL in the draft, make Steen OL6 and hope one or two of the projects can contribute in some way.

Adding Becton as a potential depth signing is a good deal. I don’t think the drop off in play had as much to do with Steen as it did with the injuries to Dickerson and Jurgens. I don’t think Becton fixes that except to the extent he gives them depth. He also could be depth for Lane too.

What’s the latest thinking and news on potential OC candidates?

5 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

What’s the latest thinking and news on potential OC candidates?

No one wants to work in Philly. We will lose the Super bowl. The end

19 hours ago, aptosbird said:

lol...after multiple years of failures in big games, a rational person would think that Allen would learn lessons and yet another big game and he is carelessly holding the ball in traffic and throwing balls up for grabs...no athletic ability in the world makes up for just blind stupidity..he is what he is..football eye candy. Give me someone who understands being "in the moment" with smart real-time decision making...Allen out of nowhere starts getting ahead of himself and then disaster strikes...no thank you

i’ve been catching up, i find this topic interesting. I think a lot of this convo is fueled with emotion by quite a few people. Some people just enjoy seeing Allen fail (like the people who enjoy seeing Hurts fail). The team vs player impact, there’s certainly times where an individual player is main reason for a failure.

So let’s be real about a few things with Allen.

In his best 2 chances at getting to a SB we had that ridiculous game where 30 or so points were scored in a couple mins. The other, Diggs last game as a Bill. AJ Brown had basically Hines Ward level effort this year compared to what Diggs did in that game. Diggs literally lost that game single handedly for them because he was having a temper tantrum for 60 mins.

Allen is 8-7 in the playoffs. 66% completion percentage and 29/6 TD/INT. Add in rushing stats and that will look even prettier (even with fumbles included)

Peyton Manning is widely considered one of the top 5 QBs of all time despite turning into a pumpkin often in the playoffs and needing a top 10ish D of all time to carry his corpse to a winning career record.

This was probably the first year you can say, ’Allen lost that game for the Bills’ in the playoffs. He’s not Lamar or Herbert though. It’s unfair IMO to discredit him or Hurts in regards to playoff performances.

21 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

What’s the latest thinking and news on potential OC candidates?

Conventional thinking would say they are waiting for a Brady/Daboll or even Kingsbury situation to shake out before committing. Or maybe even one of the guys coaching today. But the Eagles could just claim they were being thorough and underwhelm with a Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard hire. So we pretty much know nothing except for the guys who took other jobs. To that it appears CLE is satisfying Rooney rule and ready to make a hire early this week and conversely Giants are doing that on their OC presumably to hire Monken when CLE passes on him officially

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Conventional thinking would say they are waiting for a Brady/Daboll or even Kingsbury situation to shake out before committing. Or maybe even one of the guys coaching today. But the Eagles could just claim they were being thorough and underwhelm with a Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard hire. So we pretty much know nothing except for the guys who took other jobs. To that it appears CLE is satisfying Rooney rule and ready to make a hire early this week and conversely Giants are doing that on their OC presumably to hire Monken when CLE passes on him officially

What’s the consensus on the Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard tier? Nagy seems terrible. Do not want. Kafka/Cooter seem OK. Don’t know much about Grizzard.

What about Doyle from Chicago?

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Conventional thinking would say they are waiting for a Brady/Daboll or even Kingsbury situation to shake out before committing. Or maybe even one of the guys coaching today. But the Eagles could just claim they were being thorough and underwhelm with a Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard hire. So we pretty much know nothing except for the guys who took other jobs. To that it appears CLE is satisfying Rooney rule and ready to make a hire early this week and conversely Giants are doing that on their OC presumably to hire Monken when CLE passes on him officially

On the Rams you have Scheelhasse right? That’s the ‘hot’ name?

I think a deep look into the Pats staff isn’t a bad idea either. That O staff made Drake Maye a legit MVP candidate with a O assembled from spare parts around him and is in the AFCCG.

Broncos O, while decent…nothing too special. Same with Seattle. I think those are 2 teams propped up by great D’s. Granted i haven’t done some deep dives into them.

4 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

What’s the consensus on the Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard tier? Nagy seems terrible. Do not want. Kafka/Cooter seem OK. Don’t know much about Grizzard.

What about Doyle from Chicago?

Most are underwhelmed or worse with Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard.

Doyle would be interesting but very young and never has called plays. Fast riser maybe too fast to rest entire offense on.

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

On the Rams you have Scheelhasse right? That’s the ‘hot’ name?

I think a deep look into the Pats staff isn’t a bad idea either. That O staff made Drake Maye a legit MVP candidate with a O assembled from spare parts around him and is in the AFCCG.

Broncos O, while decent…nothing too special. Same with Seattle. I think those are 2 teams propped up by great D’s. Granted i haven’t done some deep dives into them.

Scheelhasse is up for CLE job. Not really play calling experience. Honestly if he's getting HC looks from Rams in LA without much fear of losing job I'm not sure why he'd jump to be OC in philly. Failure could derail career and upside seems limited

Yes mentioned Brown on pats staff. Was OC under Reich and became OC/HC in Chicago. Neither went well really but he's worked under McVay and now McDaniels and people think highly of him

9 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Scheelhasse is up for CLE job. Not really play calling experience. Honestly if he's getting HC looks from Rams in LA without much fear of losing job I'm not sure why he'd jump to be OC in philly. Failure could derail career and upside seems limited

Yes mentioned Brown on pats staff. Was OC under Reich and became OC/HC in Chicago. Neither went well really but he's worked under McVay and now McDaniels and people think highly of him

I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if a Kafka/Nagy type ends up in Cle as HC. I wouldn’t be shocked if their search extends past the SB, that’s a job i don’t think a single person wants truly. I think they might end up needing to dig into quality control assistants or complete 3x retreads.

17 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Most are underwhelmed or worse with Nagy/Kafka/Cooter/Grizzard.

Doyle would be interesting but very young and never has called plays. Fast riser maybe too fast to rest entire offense on.

I still in a slightly sarcastic manner would rather rehire Patullo instead of Nagy.

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