5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That + it didn’t look like a Kellen Moore offense + Sirianni saying it was still his offense multiple times + players literally saying they went to Sirianni’s office to say to run the ball more followed by being the heaviest running team.

I think Moore had autonomy until it wasnt working. There was more motion initially. There were other personnel packages and different plays initially. Lots disappeared quickly. At some point an OC probably goes to Siri and says youve been with Jalen for years- what the hell can I even do? Siri shows him the hitch playbook and says, this is what he tells me he likes.

56 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Wish it was from a more reliable source but great news

By the way, as much as I am totally fine with Kingsbury as an option as it has been said he is an air raid guy which utilizes little pre-snap motion and fairly simplistic concepts- Its important to remember that Kellen Moore is also an air raid passing game guy and Hurts was stinking up the joint in his passing game.

Is that enough of a sample to say Hurts cant handle an air raid offense and instead aim for just the best offensive mind (McDaniel) instead of someone you think might be simplistic enough for Hurts to handle?

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

By the way, as much as I am totally fine with Kingsbury as an option as it has been said he is an air raid guy which utilizes little pre-snap motion and fairly simplistic concepts- Its important to remember that Kellen Moore is also an air raid passing game guy and Hurts was stinking up the joint in his passing game.

Is that enough of a sample to say Hurts cant handle an air raid offense and instead aim for just the best offensive mind (McDaniel) instead of someone you think might be simplistic enough for Hurts to handle?

I’m firmly in the camp of hire the best guy. I don’t care if he gets a HC job next year. I don’t care if it’s against what Sirianni wants. I don’t care if it’s against what Hurts wants.

I get it sounds extreme after winning a SB, but being the highest paid offense by far and to look that bad all year, it’s time to figure out who’s at blame and settle it. Vic has done a tremendous job but has masked a lot of the problems on offense at the same time.

42 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean he's up for parole but I don't think he will get reinstated without a suspension.

5 years ago a local kid from a family I know well, at the age of 22, killed 2 people in a DWI accident. He had never had been in trouble and he wasn't a guy who regularly drank, but he took 2 lives. He was sentenced to 10yrs x2 for intoxication manslaughter, plus another 3yrs for intoxication assault of the lone survivor in the other vehicle. These are consecutive sentences, so 23yrs total. Texas has recently passed legislation to where half of the sentence must be served (calendar time without good behavior) before parole is a consideration. By the time the case was disposed and he was sentenced he was 24...he will be nearly 36 years old when he is parole eligible. DWI destroys the victims, the families on both sides, as well as the offender. Just a sad deal all the way around for anyone touched by it.

15 minutes ago, devpool said:

I would hire the best offensive mind. Find out if he's able to make an offense work with Hurts when he won't run. If he doesn't, you move Hurts after 2026 and see if you can make it work with a drafted QB or McKee.

I think any of the available coaches would be able to work with Hurts. I saw someone say they don't think Hurts would work in a Shanahan offense, o think he would thrive in a Shanahan offense. The entire premise is easy short to intermediate throws that put the onus on the receivers to make plays. Maybe the poster meant because there are a lot of middle of the field routes, but if an OC comes here with an offense Hurts doesnt want to run then Hurts can sit on the bench

My honest opinion that if you want a passing offense that's good without a high quality running game - which is obviously what we're after here, and you want Hurts to be the guy for that, you really have to make things easier for him than average. The combination of inconsistent arm strength and inconsistent vision over the middle of the field is a rough one, and it means that you have to become a technician to compensate. Hurts is not a technician, some of his footwork is inconsistent, he's not a high quality read through QB, by far the most important thing is having someone who can teach Hurts. Hurts of the current cannot do what is being asked from a passing perspective. What about Hurts of the future?

There's really no way to know if the organization has been coddling him and that's the problem, or if they tried to teach him and it just didn't work out. But one thing's for sure. Very few QBs get 6 full years to figure this out, and it looks like he's going to get 7 at the very least. But I've said it before, the backups they've gotten have been nothing like Jalen in skillset, so it's pretty obvious what kind of people they consider fitting into the offense of the last several years.

@vikas83 Doing the lords work 

His takes on the coaching staff have been something…

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m firmly in the camp of hire the best guy. I don’t care if he gets a HC job next year. I don’t care if it’s against what Sirianni wants. I don’t care if it’s against what Hurts wants.

I get it sounds extreme after winning a SB, but being the highest paid offense by far and to look that bad all year, it’s time to figure out who’s at blame and settle it. Vic has done a tremendous job but has masked a lot of the problems on offense at the same time.

I mean if you want me to be entirely honest. Shanahan's not on the market, but he can probably work with a lot of QBs. Does that mean Mac Jones should be starting for most teams around the league right now, and everyone who can't work with him should be fired?

I know that's not at all what you said, but I'm more saying that just because someone can find a way to make an offense that can work with Hurts - there are certainly people who can - doesn't really mean someone else is at fault. It means there are people who are capable of compensating for said deficiencies with what they build. Patrick Chung worked out in New England, but not we remember how that went when he left.

I agree with the core of your point though, I really would like to figure out more of who's causing what. But in reality, I think they already know inside the building. But there's no real way for us fans to know, and honestly that's okay. All I need is for them to have a good idea, and more importantly to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Someone in there is being coddled, I don't know whether it's players or coaches, but it's time for it to stop.

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13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m firmly in the camp of hire the best guy. I don’t care if he gets a HC job next year. I don’t care if it’s against what Sirianni wants. I don’t care if it’s against what Hurts wants.

I get it sounds extreme after winning a SB, but being the highest paid offense by far and to look that bad all year, it’s time to figure out who’s at blame and settle it. Vic has done a tremendous job but has masked a lot of the problems on offense at the same time.

Agree.

I so wonder what Fangio thought as he watched our offense this year. And it really leads you to wonder if he sees this next hire play out and if he is displeased he just says Im done.

I want the best offense we can get. If it exposes Hurts, so be it. I also want the hire to keep Fangio interested, providing him with the feeling that he is still contending for a championship.

5 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Chargers fan had plenty of gripes against Steichen & Moore too. Can't all be based on the last stop

It's important to remember that people grow. Except Philadelphia Eagles coaches according to everyone, they're pretty much forever judged by their first year. LOL

Jokes aside, yeah, they hated Moore and the '4 curls' thing, but in reality these people are all honing their craft on the job. I think it's just a little incompatible because people go 'why don't you hone your craft in college?!?!?' which makes sense, but in reality that's less and less common nowadays, at least for longer periods of time.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Kellen Moore absolutely did not have complete autonomy

Moore had it the first 4 weeks of 2024, before the bye week. The OL wanted to run the ball more. They were right TBF.

This OC hire will be much more important to the Eagles than Sirianni is if they install and control the offense. Don’t understand why Nick needs to stick around…what does he bring?

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Agree.

I so wonder what Fangio thought as he watched our offense this year. And it really leads you to wonder if he sees this next hire play out and if he is displeased he just says Im done.

I want the best offense we can get. If it exposes Hurts, so be it. I also want the hire to keep Fangio interested, providing him with the feeling that he is still contending for a championship.

Vic’s going to be 68. I wouldn’t count on him being around more than 2-3 years regardless of what happens. Which makes figuring out the offense all that more important.

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Christian Parker couldn't even develop an immensely talented Kelee Ringo out of Georgia. You definitely don't want that guy running your defense @Joe Ball

Serious question. Why would PHI even agree to let Parker interview with DAL?

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Vic’s going to be 68. I wouldn’t count on him being around more than 2-3 years regardless of what happens. Which makes figuring out the offense all that more important.

Truthy.

Still, I dont want him to leave a second earlier because of dumb reasons. I just want him to leave when its time naturally.

4 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

This OC hire will be much more important to the Eagles than Sirianni is if they install and control the offense. Don’t understand why Nick needs to stick around…what does he bring?

Every aspect of team building you can fathom. You can have a great offensive mind and be a sucky head coach, like Mike Martz. Siri will be useful despite having a smart OC.

McDaniel already failed as HC. As did Daboll. As did Kingsbury....

4 hours ago, just relax said:

My concern would be the inevitable politics involving Sirianni, the new OC, and Patullo, who is Siri’s buddy. That’s a recipe for backbiting, and questionable loyalties. No thank you. Sirianni has already made a bad decision promoting Patullo; no sense in compounding it. If he wants to keep Patullo they can both go.

Concur to your points. The troublesome relationship would turn off good candidates from taking the job.

7 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Serious question. Why would PHI even agree to let Parker interview with DAL?

He’s just DB’s coach here. Going to DC is a promotion so Cowboys have to request as a formality but Eagles can’t block it. Only he could say no.

If anybody wants a fun drinking game, just take a drink everytime someone makes a post in here saying "what does Nick even do anyway?"

You'll be hammered in about 10 minutes.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That + it didn’t look like a Kellen Moore offense + Sirianni saying it was still his offense multiple times + players literally saying they went to Sirianni’s office to say to run the ball more followed by being the heaviest running team.

So the obvious choice for Offensive Coordinator is...

The offensive line.

49 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m firmly in the camp of hire the best guy. I don’t care if he gets a HC job next year. I don’t care if it’s against what Sirianni wants. I don’t care if it’s against what Hurts wants.

I get it sounds extreme after winning a SB, but being the highest paid offense by far and to look that bad all year, it’s time to figure out who’s at blame and settle it. Vic has done a tremendous job but has masked a lot of the problems on offense at the same time.

As I said earlier, this is where I'm at as well (you and others convinced me, vs the OC that won't leave for a HC job).

31 minutes ago, RLC said:

Moore had it the first 4 weeks of 2024, before the bye week. The OL wanted to run the ball more. They were right TBF.

If I recall, Dallas fans complained that Moore didn't run the ball enough and warned Eagles fans that we would hate that too. Dominant O line + Barkley made that an easy decision...that the O line had to push for.

32 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

This OC hire will be much more important to the Eagles than Sirianni is if they install and control the offense. Don’t understand why Nick needs to stick around…what does he bring?

Find out here!

What does Nick Sirianni do as the CEO Head Coach?