At some point, they may want to consider accepting 2026 as a transitional year.

Ensure that the young nucleus of the defense stays intact, draft a new OL, implement a new scheme, get a good draft pick, and do not invest in any older players.

20 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Farmers burn their fields in the north from Jan- April and it can be a a bit smokey at that time.

Yeh, Chiang Mai has some of the worst air quality in the world during that time burning all the sugar cane stalks. It can legitimately be debilitating for anyone with respiratory issues.

Well one thing is for sure…all us Hurts critics say that he’s in an offense so talented that any qb could be plugged in with success.

That won’t be true in 2026. We’ll see what Hurts looks like with a more normal scheme and more normal surrounding talent.

7 hours ago, schuy7 said:

We may suck next year.

Always possible but i highly doubt it

Weak division. Defense should still be too notch

Offense could start slow but really we just need a TE or two

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Always possible but i highly doubt it

Weak division. Defense should still be too notch

Offense could start slow but really we just need a TE or two

Howie needs to pull us out of the ditch we are heading for. Already a lot of holes and now Dickerson. Fingers crossed. Not having Stout to coach them up is going to hurt.

7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Weak division.

Weak, but not NFC South weak 😂.

14 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Weak, but not NFC South weak 😂.

Surprised Jerry hasnt tried to move into the afc south…

I'm tired of reading how Stout is going to the Giants. If he is under contract they better not let him go anywhere else outside of another team giving them picks.

36 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Well one thing is for sure…all us Hurts critics say that he’s in an offense so talented that any qb could be plugged in with success.

That won’t be true in 2026. We’ll see what Hurts looks like with a more normal scheme and more normal surrounding talent.

I think Dickerson will play but the reality is he and Jurgens weren’t very good last year either. And Lane missed 8 games.

So one thing needs to be acknowledged about the OC coaching position. We now know why no one wanted it. All of these things escaping to the general public now were almost certainly percolating through coaching circles weeks ago.

Your HOF RT is done/gone. All-pro LG may be gone. WR1 wants out. TE1 and TE2 are not under contract. QB1 is limited and has only performed well or had success when surrounded by a uniformly all-pro offense. Beloved HOF OL coach is too close to retirement to stick around and endorse and implement your system.

Of course no one wanted this job. Main question, at this point....is what does that say about Sean Mannion for taking it? It's the just right recipe of arrogance, poor judgement, and assurances from Lurie/Howie that he will become the HC when they toss Nick to the curb.

Right now, I think it's so much heavier on personnel concerns and lighter on drama than everyone says. But having a CEO head coach and a head coach-in-waiting-in-trial-stage running the offense could change all that really quickly once the season starts.

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

At some point, they may want to consider accepting 2026 as a transitional year.

Ensure that the young nucleus of the defense stays intact, draft a new OL, implement a new scheme, get a good draft pick, and do not invest in any older players.

I think that mostly means Goedert and I think they won’t re-sign him

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

At some point, they may want to consider accepting 2026 as a transitional year.

Ensure that the young nucleus of the defense stays intact, draft a new OL, implement a new scheme, get a good draft pick, and do not invest in any older players.

It seems like it could be but what's eye opening is how fast time is flying. What felt like a young team is suddenly a team aging out of their prime. Just look at the offense. I see A LOT of question marks and guys on the back end of their prime. A transition year just ages them more

Lane will be 36 if he comes back

Saquon turns 29 in 2 days

Mailata will be 29 in 2 months

AJ Brown, if back 29 in June

Dickerson, if back turns 28 when the season starts.

Jalen turns 28 in August

Cam Jurgens will be 27

DeVonta is 27

Tyler Steen will be 26 for the season. They youngest piece of the puzzle is the worst of the bunch.

No TE, WR3 currently signed.

The core of this team was just entering their prime for Super Bowl LVII and hit their prime for SB LIX and 2025 was the year to really take advantage of players at their peak performance.

The Eagles completely blew it. It started with the we can't sign anyone in the offseason and ended with the KP mess. I know sustained success is great, but when you had a roster like the Eagles had coming off the SB win, it might have been smarter to go all in for 2025 and 2026, even if it puts you in cap hell to make tough decisions a few years down the road.

They could have brough back some combination of Becton, Isaiah Rodgers, Josh Sweat, Milton Williams rather than letting them all walk. Hell Rodgers and Becton could have been brought back without messing too much with the Eagles cap.

While they've built an incredible defense via the draft, Howie has been piss poor at keeping the cupboard full on offense. They have no depth behind the bloated salaries of the starters. They've ignored TE so much that there's not a single TE under contract.

Now we're looking at another offseason of having to watch good players walk. 6 starters, 8 if you want to count WR3 and Big Fred starring half the season and a few key contributors are UFA.

Reed Blankenship, Jaelan Phillips, Nakobe Dean, Adoree Jackson, Dallas Goedert, Braden Mann, Jahan Dotson, Fred Johnson, Brett Toth and even Grant Calcaterra. If they aren't brough back, they have to be replaced. Who is getting replaced with an upgrade? Maybe CB2, WR3?

If they re-sign Jaelan Phillips, they might as well have just kept Josh Sweat. Phillips is projected to potentially get between $70-80 million over 3-4 years.

Should have just given Sweat his $74 million in return for 12 sacks and 4 FF. You get top production from a home grown guy and you save the 3rd round pick you dealt for Phillips.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but when you take a step back and look at the overall big picture, it's easy to say they EFFED UP big time.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

I think that mostly means Goedert and I think they won’t re-sign him

I agree. I'm not sure there are too many other decisions that can be made to pave the road for the future.

Taking the comp picks on Goedert and Phillips, IMO, are the big ones. That makes the team incrementally worse in 2026 and helps their future. I think that's the move.

Trading off players, apparently, does not make sense due to cap ramifications. So it's more about who they don't bring back.

10 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Surprised Jerry hasnt tried to move into the afc south…

😂 right? Seriously though, Jerry truly values the NFCE rivalries, especially the DAL/PHI rivalry. He has many faults but he knows the value those rivalries bring to not only DAL, PHI, and the others but to the NFL as a whole. He’s spoken on it before.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

It seems like it could be but what's eye opening is how fast time is flying. What felt like a young team is suddenly a team aging out of their prime. Just look at the offense. I see A LOT of question marks and guys on the back end of their prime. A transition year just ages them more

Lane will be 36 if he comes back

Saquon turns 29 in 2 days

Mailata will be 29 in 2 months

AJ Brown, if back 29 in June

Dickerson, if back turns 28 when the season starts.

Jalen turns 28 in August

Cam Jurgens will be 27

DeVonta is 27

Tyler Steen will be 26 for the season. They youngest piece of the puzzle is the worst of the bunch.

No TE, WR3 currently signed.

The core of this team was just entering their prime for Super Bowl LVII and hit their prime for SB LIX and 2025 was the year to really take advantage of players at their peak performance.

The Eagles completely blew it. It started with the we can't sign anyone in the offseason and ended with the KP mess. I know sustained success is great, but when you had a roster like the Eagles had coming off the SB win, it might have been smarter to go all in for 2025 and 2026, even if it puts you in cap hell to make tough decisions a few years down the road.

They could have brough back some combination of Becton, Isaiah Rodgers, Josh Sweat, Milton Williams rather than letting them all walk. Hell Rodgers and Becton could have been brought back without messing too much with the Eagles cap.

While they've built an incredible defense via the draft, Howie has been piss poor at keeping the cupboard full on offense. They have no depth behind the bloated salaries of the starters. They've ignored TE so much that there's not a single TE under contract.

Now we're looking at another offseason of having to watch good players walk. 6 starters, 8 if you want to count WR3 and Big Fred starring half the season and a few key contributors are UFA.

Reed Blankenship, Jaelan Phillips, Nakobe Dean, Adoree Jackson, Dallas Goedert, Braden Mann, Jahan Dotson, Fred Johnson, Brett Toth and even Grant Calcaterra. If they aren't brough back, they have to be replaced. Who is getting replaced with an upgrade? Maybe CB2, WR3?

If they re-sign Jaelan Phillips, they might as well have just kept Josh Sweat. Phillips is projected to potentially get between $70-80 million over 3-4 years.

Should have just given Sweat his $74 million in return for 12 sacks and 4 FF. You get top production from a home grown guy and you save the 3rd round pick you dealt for Phillips.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but when you take a step back and look at the overall big picture, it's easy to say they EFFED UP big time.

I wouldn't say they completely blew it. This core team took them to 2 SB's and won 1. Not a dynasty, but that's absolutely incredible. Better than the 2017 group and on par with the Rollins/Utley/Howard Phillies.

Now...I do think the party is over. But on the bright side, this is when Howie really shines.

I think Mailata, even at 29...as an OL may have a longer runway. Jurgens (and even Dickerson) may show another spark, although I wouldn't bank on it. Devonta Smith has the potential to age quite well with his style of play.

Lane, Barkley, AJ, Hurts, Baun are all foundational players that, IMO, are just incompatible with the future of this team given the new runway to success. Doesn't mean you trade/cut them now due to obvious cap issues...but they just shouldn't factor into any plans whatsoever.

They have a strong nucleus on defense. It’s time to turn over the offense. I think that was always the plan except the decline of Jurgens and Dickerson wasn’t.

As for the OC job guys take jobs on all the teams and there’s a lot of teams with issues on offense going in. There are only 32 OC jobs. People want them

The dynasty talk is weird coming from people who think Hurts isn’t that good. The two dynasties in the last 3 decades had 2 of the best QBs ever. Beyond that you have a good team and hope it goes your way which it did last year and barely in the Rams game. I appreciate that

The Eagles will absolutely be competitive next year but I'm annoyed that they wasted an entire season where we could have plugged in some of the OL depth and got them real experience.

If Dickerson retires, that probably tells us that the 2023-2024 version of Dickerson is never coming back anyway, so it's not really a huge loss.

But we have some flexibility along the OL. Obviously Lane would leave a big hole to fill, but there are pieces to work with.

Toth proved to be not totally useless. Kendall showed some signs. Then youve got Pierce, Hinton, and Lampkin as wild cards.

8 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There’s no doubt that’s what would happen. Legends like Cox, Kelce and Graham all announced retirement in March but all they have to do is file the papers after June. Same thing would happen here.

More major fail from Howie and Jeff pushing Dickerson through last season starting game 1. Complete disaster and maybe cost this guy his career. Complete fail and malpractice. IR the guy after he has damn surgery on his knee, re-evaluate after the 4 weeks to see where he's at. Many people were shocked he was back immediately. But nope, let's push him out there because he's a hungry dog and a warrior. Completely unbelievable. Was it worth it?

58 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

At some point, they may want to consider accepting 2026 as a transitional year.

Ensure that the young nucleus of the defense stays intact, draft a new OL, implement a new scheme, get a good draft pick, and do not invest in any older players.

I said this about a week and a half ago when discussing the AJ Brown trade. If the eagles are using 2026 as a reset/transition similar to 2021 then it makes sense from afar to make certain moves. The Eagles might view the team as we’re still gonna be competitive because of our defense and transitioning/reset of the offense so we’re not gonna bottom out but we aren’t true SB contenders. Why I could see them making the decision to let goedert go, trade AJ Brown for assets that can help them in 2027 and 2028 be a legit contender. Allow a young offensive coordinator and staff to learn and have growing pains for a year. In hopes by end of year 1 you see things begin to click and spring boards you into 2027.

People can say it’s negative or they just don’t wanna hear it, but it’s why when you have a window you should try to capitalize it on it as much as possible. It’s why that Phillips trade made sense at the time. if you thought you could win a Super Bowl with that defense, and that the offense could figure itself out enough that you make that type of trade. Cause it might have been the last best shot with that particular group and need to reset/transition for a year (hopefully not 2).

The reality is, we are looking at a transition year for the offense. The defense should still be good and SB worthy. But when you look at things from afar, you have a young inexperienced offensive coordinator. He is going to have growing pains and has never called plays so that’s gonna be a learning curve. have an entirely new offense and philosophy for players to learn and adapt. So they’re learning it all in one off-season so there’s gonna be a learning curve with them. probably gonna lose AJ Brown. probably gonna lose Dallas goedert. You may lose lane and Landon Dickerson. That is four starters that you potentially lost on offense and you have to replace along with everything else I just mentioned before.

That is a lot of turnover and a lot of transition for one off-season. I tend to believe the eagle offense is probably going to be inconsistent and even struggle to start this season. You just hope each week they show a little bit more so that by the time you get the midseason, they start clicking and things become second nature for the offense.

Philly sports dark era is here. No light at the end of the tunnel for any team really.

If AJ gets traded, give me more quality picks in 27'. We have enough in this draft and it's not the strongest either. Start to load up on the 27' draft. Maybe a team like NE, Balt etc would be more willing to give up a 1st in 27' rather than this year. Most of the smoke was AJ won't fetch a 1st but maybe they'd be more willing to give that up in 27. If it's a 2nd in 26' I wouldn't be happy with that at all. If you have to sweeten the deal by throwing in a day 3 pick to make the 1st happen in 27' so be it.

8 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gronk and AP are likely first ballot. I doubt Roethlisberger is. Sherman eventually but he’ll wait. The rest, meh.

With the way these voters are on their high horses I wouldn't be shocked if they made AP wait a year or two.

9 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Philly sports dark era is here. No light at the end of the tunnel for any team really.

Doesn't feel like this is rock bottom at all either. Feels like we just started the tumble and there's a lot more falling that's going to happen. 

Dickerson in the draft was a player who came with defined limit on his career because of injuries. Spending an entire season injured, in pain and realising your mobility had gone, will have sucked for him. He's been to 2 SBs, won one and is made for life. At some point, future good health is better than the grind. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if he took a year out, got healthy and got the bug again.

As for the whole Sirianni hot seat thing, I can well imagine he's had discussions with the FO about how poor some areas of the roster were this year. They really didn't help the team in certain areas - CB2, backup OL, DL, Safety. All tried the cheap option and in some areas, didn't work at all.