6 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Behave yourself... perfect doesn't exist. He's had a different OC every year, with very little consistency, and still been a champion and a winner. If Jalen isn't good enough for you by this point, if you still need to see more from him, if he needs to prove himself more to you, I have no idea what to say to you. Maybe we should give Andy Dalton a shot

I think that’s unfair to be honest. The pass game has not been great the last 2-3 years and so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want more from your QB.

31 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I’m not sure… I mean I agree I don’t think they feel their window has closed. I’m not sure I agree with them on that right now. But retool and add young talent to this offense and sure in a year or so they can absolutely be right back amongst it.

A good passing game? A consistent passing game? It’s what the Eagles want they just brought in an OC who in from the McVay, Shanahan tree so they recognise the passing offense hasn’t been good enough and change is needed.

Like you wrote it’s all about the retool. They did the same thing with the defense when they drafted the young guys. Over the next few years you will see in influx in young talent on offense. It’s already started.

Pretty good trade for the Birds, IMO. Love that it’s a 2028 1st from the Pats.

4 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Be careful with using the websites on the dead money, as the rolling guarantee structure makes their numbers unreliable. If we move on from Jalen after the 2027 season, the dead money total is ~$94.1 million. He would have been paid $209.8mm in cash through the end of 2027, and his cap charges would have been $115.7 million.

Ugghh … that’s a whole lot more than $24.3M in dead money.

Anyway thanks for pointing that out.

21 hours ago, DBW said:

You know how I know this is not true? The made up girl hasn’t accused either of them or asked for anything. I hate to say it, but this massage girl BS is so played out. If there was any truth to it, that gurl would have outed AJ long before he got married to get her pay day. Sad, but true.

What makes you think she hasn't gotten a payday on the down low already? Don't be naive!

5 hours ago, kiwinavega said:

People are really saying we can now evaluate Hurts more fully? That MFer has won a Super Bowl, been Super Bowl MVP, and outplayed Pat Mahomes in the other SB he played in. He has never missed the playoffs, he can win in multiple ways, and he's all business. WTF more do you people want?

The next Super Bowl is the real test.

38 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

What makes you think she hasn't gotten a payday on the down low already? Don't be naive!

I wonder if AJ and Reddick split the bill...

2 hours ago, Aspiritfall said:

I wonder if AJ and Reddick split the bill...

Split the bed

On 1/14/2026 at 11:10 AM, time2rock said:

Curious to know what everyone thinks is going to happen with AJ this offseason. Does he get traded? Seems he was pretty checked out all season and was never more obvious than the WC game this past weekend. Maybe it is time for a change in scenery for him? Maybe they feel his attitude is disrupting team chemistry too much? Or do you think he is back, either because most of that nonsense seems to be overblown or just because the salary cap ramifications make it extremely difficult to do so (or perhaps you think he'll be much happier with a a new offensive scheme in place)?

SALARY CAP HITS IF AJ IS TRADED:

• Current cap number for 2026: $23.4M

• Trade (pre-June 1): $43.4M dead money

• Trade (post-June 1): $16.4M dead money ($7.0M in cap savings)

If released instead of traded for comparison:

• Cut (pre-June 1): $72.4M dead money

• Cut (post-June 1): $45.4M dead money

I mean your post makes if obvious that the Eagles only real choices were to either keep Brown (which really wasn’t an option) or trade him post June. It’s actually quite surprising Howie got a first from any season considering everyone knew the Eagles had to trade Brown, his knee concerns, and the limited options available.

On 6/4/2026 at 3:00 AM, EazyEaglez said:

I mean your post makes if obvious that they Eagles only real choices were to either keep Brown (which really wasn’t an option) or trade him post June. It’s actually quite surprising Howie got a first from any season considering everyone knew the Eagles had to trade Brown, his knee concerns, and the limited options available.

This is from the Boston media

1 hour ago, Procus said:

This is from the Boston media

And yet he still put up over 1000 yards (in a **** offense no less). I think the concerns over his knee are overblown and NE got themselves a helluva player. I would have preferred him and Hurts being able to put behind them whatever fueled the relationship souring a bit (whether it was the massage therapist he and Reddick were both nailing and Jalen didn't disclose it to him as some rumors say or whatever was the real cause) and he continued to beast out here. But I also think his 4 best years will be those he had here and that the next 4 won't match it only because he was in his prime here and is now exiting it.

2 hours ago, Procus said:

This is from the Boston media

Overall it was an accomplishment by Howie to pull a first out of this. I wish I had the source, but I read that the Eagles squeezed even the fifth round pick out of this by threatening to drag this out and the league kind of stepped in and implied there could be some tampering issues here. So the Pats kind of folded and gave the Eagles what they wanted to avoid those types of penalties and it’s pretty clear Vrabel and Brown have been chatting for a while.

On 6/5/2026 at 12:06 PM, EazyEaglez said:

Overall it was an accomplishment by Howie to pull a first out of this. I wish I had the source, but I read that the Eagles squeezed even the fifth round pick out of this by threatening to drag this out and the league kind of stepped in and implied there could be some tampering issues here. So the Pats kind of folded and gave the Eagles what they wanted to avoid those types of penalties and it’s pretty clear Vrabel and Brown have been chatting for a while.

My theory is that the Eagles quietly and behind the scenes made a tampering grievance with the league, and the comp package that NE ponied up represents a settlement of sorts.

On 6/5/2026 at 12:06 PM, EazyEaglez said:

Overall it was an accomplishment by Howie to pull a first out of this. I wish I had the source, but I read that the Eagles squeezed even the fifth round pick out of this by threatening to drag this out and the league kind of stepped in and implied there could be some tampering issues here. So the Pats kind of folded and gave the Eagles what they wanted to avoid those types of penalties and it’s pretty clear Vrabel and Brown have been chatting for a while.

I saw something similar but the version I saw stated Howie threatened to delay the deal into the summer to see if another team suffered a season-ending injury at WR that could possibly offer more. That would have meant Brown would have missed all OTAs and possibly even part of TC ... NE surely would have wanted him there to start working in McDaniels' offense and building chemistry with Maye. That led to NE sweetening the deal by adding the 5th to get the deal done June 1. But who knows what the truth is ... so many variations of these types of stories out there.

On 6/5/2026 at 9:54 AM, time2rock said:

And yet he still put up over 1000 yards (in a **** offense no less). I think the concerns over his knee are overblown and NE got themselves a helluva player. I would have preferred him and Hurts being able to put behind them whatever fueled the relationship souring a bit (whether it was the massage therapist he and Reddick were both nailing and Jalen didn't disclose it to him as some rumors say or whatever was the real cause) and he continued to beast out here. But I also think his 4 best years will be those he had here and that the next 4 won't match it only because he was in his prime here and is now exiting it.

The 1000 yards was due to 121 targets. He should have had under 100 targets with his knee and attitude but he was holding the team hostage with his whiny scumbaggery. He was at 8.3 yards per target, 53rd in the league. DeVonta was 30th with the same Patullo.

The rumor about the massage woman is for morons.

FWIW<

I read that the 5th rounder next season is for the better of 2 that NE has (Bears pick also).

No big deal.

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

I saw something similar but the version I saw stated Howie threatened to delay the deal into the summer to see if another team suffered a season-ending injury at WR that could possibly offer more. That would have meant Brown would have missed all OTAs and possibly even part of TC ... NE surely would have wanted him there to start working in McDaniels' offense and building chemistry with Maye. That led to NE sweetening the deal by adding the 5th to get the deal done June 1. But who knows what the truth is ... so many variations of these types of stories out there.

Agreed. I guess the most important thing is that the deal is done. AJ got what he wanted. Let’s see what this new offense can do provided the offensive line stays healthy.

Albert Breer article on the trade talks between Patriots and Eagles. Noteworthy points bolded.

https://www.si.com/nfl/breer-takeaways-how-a-j-brown-trade-got-done-browns-future-myles-garrett

• The Patriots have made a concerted effort, going back a few years now and particularly since drafting Drake Maye, of going after any top receiver who made noise about wanting to be traded the last few years. They went down the road on Brandon Aiyuk in 2024 with the Niners, but got shut down by Eagles GM Howie Roseman every time they checked in on Brown, including during the 2025 offseason and before the trade deadline in November.

• The first real conversation this year happened around the combine, and Wolf could sense a different tone from Roseman—the Eagles were willing do it, but preferred to go post-June 1, and they wanted a first-rounder and another high-end pick. Philly’s model had been the Quinnen Williams return the Jets got from Dallas. The Packers/Raiders Davante Adams deal from 2022 was another comp that was floated.

• Meanwhile, Brown’s camp gave the Eagles four AFC teams they’d be happy to land with: the Bills, Chargers, Chiefs and Patriots. The Bills traded for D.J. Moore soon thereafter, taking themselves off the market, while the Chiefs and Chargers didn’t show much interest in a deal, leaving the Patriots, who hadn’t put a first-round pick on the table yet much less a first-rounder and another high pick.

• The Eagles then went down the road with the Rams on a trade that would’ve been centered on a 2028 first-rounder, a first-rounder that, at the time, would’ve been three drafts away. The deal crumbled when the Rams couldn’t work out a corresponding trade of Adams to another team, and with some concerns L.A. had over Brown’s knee.

• Wolf had told Roseman, at one point, "If you get a 1 and a 2, go ahead and do it.” But the Patriots never lost interest, with a dozen people who were with Vrabel in Tennessee vouching for Brown, and character crosschecks Pats people were doing with folks who’d been with Brown in Philly checked out, too. What stood out about Brown, even with all the drama he was tied to, was how he was described as a competitor, an alpha and a football junkie.

• Roseman and Wolf didn’t meet face-to-face at the owners meetings in Arizona, but right around then, they picked talks back up. Roseman reiterated he’d need a first. Wolf was still unwilling to move his 2027 first-round pick (he was willing to part with a 2027 second-rounder). So they started to discuss making a 2028 first-rounder the focus of a deal, just as the Eagles had with the Rams.

• That was enough for the Eagles to give their trainers permission to talk to the Patriots trainers about Brown’s injury history, which happened right around April 1. They passed along his scans—which were key, given that his degenerative knee condition, which he has effectively managed throughout his career, was what led to the Titans trading him in the first place back in 2022.

• By the draft in April, there was a level of confidence on both ends that a deal was coming. The Eagles told the Patriots they wanted a 2027 pick as well, but they were comfortable with the first-rounder coming in 2028. As such, the Eagles moved to replace Brown in trading up and selecting Makai Lemon in the first round. Meanwhile, the way the Patriots viewed the receiver class, their value wasn’t matching up with how the players were coming off the board—so knowing Brown was likely on the way, they didn’t spend a pick on the position at all.

• By mid-to-late May, the deal was essentially hammered out. Whereas the Eagles wanted the second pick involved to be on the higher end with the Patriots initially offering a 2027 seventh-rounder to go with the 2028 first-rounder, there was a logical landing spot in the middle that everyone knew was workable. So they resolved to finish talks on June 1.

• Then, last Monday, the Patriots, having acquired an extra fifth-rounder from their trade of center Garrett Bradbury to the Bears, offered the higher of their two 2027 picks in that round, and Roseman and Wolf pushed the deal over the goal line.

And so it closes the book on a highly successful, if turbulent, four years for Brown in Philly, with Vrabel getting his reunion and Wolf finally getting his receiver.

With AJ Brown gone, Campbell is taking jersey #11.

It sucks that this was a 2028 first, but it’s still a first. Howie really did a great job getting what he wanted out of NE and all of their tampering.

On 6/20/2026 at 4:43 PM, time2rock said:

With AJ Brown gone, Campbell is taking jersey #11.

Now the Eagles pro shop can sell all those surplus #11 jerseys, with a free name upgrade for only $159.95.

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

It sucks that this was a 2028 first, but it’s still a first. Howie really did a great job getting what he wanted out of NE and all of their tampering.

A 1st is a 1st. I never understood the mentality that a 1st a year later is worth the equivalent of one round less.

It'll be funny AF if this upcoming season, things are mostly rosy in NE but AJ doesn't get the ball enough that leads him to start feeling like he isn't dominating like he wants to (same BS he pulled right after we won the SB) leading to uneven play from him in 2027 and being the root cause of them falling off a bit giving us that much better of a pick in 2028.

6 minutes ago, time2rock said:

A 1st is a 1st. I never understood the mentality that a 1st a year later is worth the equivalent of one round less.

It'll be funny AF if this upcoming season, things are mostly rosy in NE but AJ doesn't get the ball enough of something that leads him to start feeling like he isn't dominating like he wants to (same BS he pulled right after we won the SB) leading to uneven play from him in 2027 and being the root cause of them falling off a bit giving us that much better of a pick in 2028.

The patriots attempted 5 more passes than the Eagles last season, so he should see the lion's share of that 5 pass windfall.

30 minutes ago, time2rock said:

A 1st is a 1st. I never understood the mentality that a 1st a year later is worth the equivalent of one round less.

It'll be funny AF if this upcoming season, things are mostly rosy in NE but AJ doesn't get the ball enough of something that leads him to start feeling like he isn't dominating like he wants to (same BS he pulled right after we won the SB) leading to uneven play from him in 2027 and being the root cause of them falling off a bit giving us that much better of a pick in 2028.

I got into an argument with a Patriots fan running his mouth about having AJ Brown. I said " all is well now till he doesn't get his when he wants it" he said " he finally has a real QB throwing him the ball so he will have no trouble getting his" lol

9 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I got into an argument with a Patriots fan running his mouth about having AJ Brown. I said " all is well now till he doesn't get his when he wants it" he said " he finally has a real QB throwing him the ball so he will have no trouble getting his" lol

Hilarious! I mean we can all have our own views on Jalen. Some love him, some want a new QB etc etc but at this point how can anyone make the argument that Maye is absolutely a better QB? He had a good rookie year (not outstanding) and he did look good last year. But he had a very easy schedule and the play off run was all on the defense not on him.