5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So, just throw it to green?    If Ward is going to be this aware field presence, etc. that many want him to be... that's blitz 101 for a WR.  You see where blitzer is coming from... you have to look for the hot throw from the QB, give him a target.  

 

Wentz should just throw the ball to green grass?   Nah... I think this one is 100% on Ward.   He saw it, made sure Wentz was aware that he saw it, then he just ignored it and went about his regular business.  He's got to be better than that.  Break it off and present a target to your QB.

Yup

I wonder if Wentz is wired like those folks that become hoarders.  Everything is worth saving - even a broken play.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

Solak really missed the boat on the first play. That's a Power, with the RG pulling. However, Herbig (67) takes a terrible angle. He should be right on Mailata's a$$, blocking inside out. Instead, he's pushing his own man in the back. He should turn upfield as soon as possible. There was a nice crease there if he had taken the right path, which is inside the TE. Instead, the back had to dance in the hole. Opeta did fine on the play. The fault was Herbig's. This goes, I think, to my yammering on about Herbig not being a move guard. They tried to pull him from right to left and he couldn't make the block. Normally, we would run that play to the right, with the LG pulling, when that was Seumalo. With Opeta having no experience they tried it with Herbig and ran it to the left. The play was there with a good block.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

You hope there's no defender near and you hope that Ward is close enough to the area to not draw an intentional grounding call.   That's on Ward.  He saw it, but then didn't react to it. 

Ward is the primary culprit, yes. Wentz can still get rid of the ball knowing Ward will be in-breaking at some point.

Just now, austinfan said:

Ward has 14 games under his belt, while he's way ahead of the curve due to his experience as a college QB, that doesn't make him an experienced veteran quite yet.

He's been working at the WR position for 4 years now.   And he knew the problem, and as a QB, he knows the solution... the WR and QB adjust to a hot route.  Trouble is... he only identified the issue and didn't adjust like he's supposed to.  

I mean... 4 years.  You can say its only 14 games, but he's been on the PS for a long time.  Do they not practice this?  He saw the issue.  He needs to complete the process and break off his route, like he would expect a WR to do for him as a QB.  

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

That would be a big pair of guards, wouldn't ask them to block on the second level, but they'd make it hard to get an inside push on pass plays.

Peters should have no problem with LG, he's been on the left side for a decade, and practicing at RG has got him comfortable with guard duties.

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Not for nothing but Jackson had his man beat for a TD on that play.  Wentz didn't even look at him.  Went from Ward then right to Hightower...then went running for his life.  Had he looked to Jackson at the same time as Hightower, he would have seen him blow by the DB.

 

Anyway, bad route by Ward...not sure what he was thinking or if he completely missed that they were blitzing. 

Are you kidding?   Btw the time Desean 'blew past' the defender, Wentz was already under duress and backpedaling.   Pause the clip when you think Wentz should have thrown the ball to Desean... then look at where Desean is... and what is happening to Wentz.    Does this make sense?

Ward is the hot read, because he's where the defender vacated.  He just never adjusted.  That's the read and the throw.  Ward just never gave him a chance.

Just now, austinfan said:

That would be a big pair of guards, wouldn't ask them to block on the second level, but they'd make it hard to get an inside push on pass plays.

Peters should have no problem with LG, he's been on the left side for a decade, and practicing at RG has got him comfortable with guard duties.

My concern is that Carson will see #71 and line up to take the snap two spots to the right which would be the RG.

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

More like Alshon and our 4th for their 5th or 6th.

Our 4th is wearing #58 playing zero defensive snaps and 7 ST snaps last game.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ward is the primary culprit, yes. Wentz can still get rid of the ball knowing Ward will be in-breaking at some point.

Does he know that?   What was the original play design?  Was Ward due to break out on the play and his adjustment was just a really late, inside break instead?  What if Ward doesn't break in?  What if he throws to the spot he thinks Ward is supposed to be, but the defender is anticipating that and jumps the hot route?   

 

That's carelessness with the football.  And we can sit here from the 30,000 foot view and say what Wentz should have done with the ball, but in the moment, he 'took care of the football', because his target never adjusted.  A missed communication there and that's a potential pick 6, in a tight game.   Nah, I'm not going to fault Wentz for eating it rather than throwing to no man's land.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

My concern is that Carson will see #71 and line up to take the snap two spots to the right which would be the RG.

You don't think he keys on #62 a little more for where to take the snap?  🤔

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Does he know that?   What was the original play design?  Was Ward due to break out on the play and his adjustment was just a really late, inside break instead?  What if Ward doesn't break in?  What if he throws to the spot he thinks Ward is supposed to be, but the defender is anticipating that and jumps the hot route?   

 

That's carelessness with the football.  And we can sit here from the 30,000 foot view and say what Wentz should have done with the ball, but in the moment, he 'took care of the football', because his target never adjusted.  A missed communication there and that's a potential pick 6, in a tight game.   Nah, I'm not going to fault Wentz for eating it rather than throwing to no man's land.

1) I sure as hell would hope they would know where he’s supposed to be on that play. 

2) There was no defender there, which is also part of the QB’s read. 

How much data has to come out, on top of watching it, to make Schwartz and the Eagles realize Gerry sucks.

 

Do we know when Seumalo returns? If it's soon, put Peters at RG. If it's not soon, then putting Peters at LG is more justifiable.

When Peters comes back, you use him like a rented mule, because that's exactly what he is.

Start with LG so that Herbig can go where he fits better (RG).  Then introduce him to the bench once Seumalo returns.  Then he can practice at RG.  At that point, depending on the overall OL performance, Herbig's RG performance, and our position in the standings, they can consider letting him push Herbig at RG.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

1) Insure as hell would hope they would know where he’s supposed to be on that play. 

2) There was no defender there, which is also part of the QB’s read. 

1 - Was he there, though?   Nope.  
2 - Yeah... reading the WR and the defender.  

 

I'll take ball security over the throw away.  I only like throw aways to the boundary... 5 rows deep.  No thanks to the throw away across the middle of the field.

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ward is the primary culprit, yes. Wentz can still get rid of the ball knowing Ward will be in-breaking at some point.

IDK I don't really think I just want him throwing the ball to where Ward should have gone. Maybe 10% if anything on Wentz

Just now, greend said:

IDK I don't really think I just want him throwing the ball to where Ward should have gone. Maybe 10% if anything on Wentz

There was nothing but green grass in the middle of the field. It was safe. 

But 10 percent is about right IMO. If Ward gets into his route quicker Wentz doesn’t have to freeze waiting for him. 

Garrett Gilbert is the other guy who apparently has been in the league since 2014 and I've never heard of him.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Would have been funny if they signed McCown off the PS and he drove up from his ranch to play against us. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Would have been funny if they signed McCown off the PS and he drove up from his ranch to play against us. 

I was thinking that yesterday, but with the rules they can't. 

24 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

My concern is that Carson will see #71 and line up to take the snap two spots to the right which would be the RG.

Didn't McNabb do exactly that one time? It might have even been Carson, my memory fails me....but I'm almost certain our QB lined up under guard one snap. 

 

Edit: Lol, looks like Tyrod Taylor did it, with ridiculous results:

https://twitter.com/FRANCHISESPORTZ/status/785219874230444032?s=20

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I was thinking that yesterday, but with the rules they can't. 

In theory, couldn’t he sign today or Tuesday and pass the Covid tests in time to play Sunday?

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

In theory, couldn’t he sign today or Tuesday and pass the Covid tests in time to play Sunday?

For that, yes, but you can't claim anyone from an upcoming opponent. I believe in division its two weeks. 

Actually not even sure about the COVID tests. Claiming period would be tomorrow, I guess it depends if they get the first test on Tuesday or Wednesday.