1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

So let me get this straight. 

A team who picked JJAW over DK. A team who picked Mack Hollins. Nelly in the first. Jalen Hurts, Derrick Barnett, ALL OF A SUDDEN KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEYRE DOING IN THE 7th. 

GET THE F*** OUT OF HERE. 

Well, given that some of those picks were good (ex: Mack Hollins was a very good 4th round pick before he hurt both hips), then yes the team knew what they were doing.

If there's anything this team has shown for years, it's the ability to draft/develop offensive linemen.

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

So let me get this straight. 

A team who picked JJAW over DK. A team who picked Mack Hollins. Nelly in the first. Jalen Hurts, Derrick Barnett, ALL OF A SUDDEN KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEYRE DOING IN THE 7th. 

GET THE F*** OUT OF HERE. 

Even a blind fox finds a hole ocasionally

Bacarty = Herpes. 

10 minutes ago, justrelax said:

No. They knew they had a chance. They had raw material and a great sculptor and they were willing to put in the time. They knew what they were doing. Feel free to drop the word "exactly" from your last sentence and we might agree. They invested a lot of time and coaching in a seventh round pick, neither of which was a function of luck.

Agreed, drafting Mailata, was easily a no brainer, and I know I supported the move, even earlier this year when it was being questioned why are we wasting our time, my response was he is only 23 years old. We have time. 

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Jury is still out on Mailata too.  He was terrible last week.  But he’s shown some promise in previous games.  His upside is very high.  

He definitely got worked.  How much of that was because he was paired with Opeta who was the worst lineman on the field by far.  My confidence in Mailata is still sky high.  

One of my issues with JP at LT this week is we aren't able to see how Mailata bounces back after a bad game.  Yes, he's still in the lineup but at a total different position.  This could have been a huge stepping stone for Mailata to learn from last week and grow.

6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Listen I will try and explain this to you one more time:

Your goal before the draft: Find a starting LT for the future.

Your investment during said draft : a 1st and 7th rd picks  Drafted 2 players

So far what we believe we have gained with those 2 draft picks: A starting LT for the Future and another player who could possibly be traded for a 3rd or 4th rd pick

How is that not a WIN/WIN scenario? 

In his world you draft studs with every draft pick you make. So by not picking a stud with any pick, you've Fed up and can't draft. People like him used to be sent to Bellevue, but alas....

11 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Perhaps I am being picky here, but Driscoll has not impressed me at RT. I see him as an interior guy. In my ideal scenario, when Kelce retires, Seumalo goes to C and Driscoll goes to LG.

Yep, Driscoll lacks the arm length for OT, when he's beat with quickness, he can't reach out and touch someone, compare to Mailata, where it takes all day to run around him.

Driscoll was drafted as an interior lineman who can move out to OT in emergencies, he should be a good LG.

Toth is a total project, Army so you know he's undersized and inexperienced in pass pro, check back in two years.

Prince is a late round upside gamble, if he gets back to 100% the Eagles have a steal, but that "IF" is why he fell in the draft. We've seen plenty of these gambles fail (Sidney Jones), which is why you make them in the late rounds, not the early rounds.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Has this been confirmed?

It hasn't been clear at all.  The last tweet I saw said if Lane can't go we will see Mailata at RT and JP at LT.  There was no tweet about the lineup if Lane can go.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

It hasn't been clear at all.  The last tweet I saw said if Lane can't go we will see Mailata at RT and JP at LT.  There was no tweet about the lineup if Lane can go.

If no Lane then its teh right call to move Mailata to RT and JP at LT. Now when Lane comes backs, I like Tra Thomas thought process of having Mailata at LT and JP at LG. Reasn why is JP has played 14 years on the left side and he would have a more natural flow and transition moving to LG. Keep Herbig at RG. 

23 minutes ago, austinfan said:

People have unrealistic expectations about 1st rd picks, especially after the top 10.

One reason players drop is they're not NFL ready, that is, they're talented but need work, in Dillard's case, strength was a known issue, if he was stronger he'd have gone in the top 10 based on his athleticism.

Sweat dropped to the 4th rd due to his injury, and the system he played in (read and react), teams knew he had tremendous upside but it would take 2-3 seasons to realize it. So you're only getting 1-2 seasons before you have to pay him big money.

Mailata was the best athlete in the draft, but the biggest unknown as well, projecting an Australian rugby player to the NFL? That's a stretch!

People whine about Taylor, well, if he was polished, he'd been picked in the top 50, so if you want the upside, you need to be patient.

There are always tradeoffs, JJAW was the opposite, limited upside, but should have had a high floor as a possession receiver, how's that working out? Though I think he might have a future as a H-back, he's already big enough (about the same size as Perkins) and is a willing blocker, and his lack of burst won't be the same issue in that role.

I agree with this mostly, but JJAW quite clearly doesn’t have a high floor. 

9 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Because flopping a first round pick is exactly why the Eagles are, and will be in purgatory for the foreseeable future. 

There is no circumstance. ZERO that flopping on the first should be considered  a win. 

again, you are looking at it in a very narrowed view.  We agree they didn't do as well with that 1 pick as we would have liked them to. But they did awesome with the 7th rd Mailata Pick, which more than makes up for that pick.   

Honestly you just like to be a dissenter. 

 

Here lets pick a different topic:

I'm happy the economy grew by the largest GDP since the 1940's war era.  You? 

30 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Green pants look turrible.  All whites are fresh.

Green tops, white bottoms should be the go-to.   

39 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I was reading that teams were pushing to get trades done yesterday due to Covid testing periods in order to have players available to play next week. I wonder if that wasn’t nearly as important to us with the bye week coming so we could afford to slow play the market a bit. 

I'm sure it does, but I still would want to make a move sooner rather than later so I can at least give the guy a play book to study over the bye.

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

again, you are looking at it in a very narrowed view.  We agree they didn't do as well with that 1 pick as we would have liked them to. But they did awesome with the 7th rd Mailata Pick, which more than makes up for that pick.   

Honestly you just like to be a dissenter. 

 

Here lets pick a different topic:

I'm happy the economy grew by the largest GDP since the 1940's war era.  You? 

Take it to CVON

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Green tops, white bottoms should be the go-to.   

Green top, white bottom, green socks, and dark shoes = home

White top, white bottom, white socks, and white shoes = road

Simple.

15 minutes ago, RLC said:

Well, given that some of those picks were good (ex: Mack Hollins was a very good 4th round pick before he hurt both hips), then yes the team knew what they were doing.

If there's anything this team has shown for years, it's the ability to draft/develop offensive linemen.

Yeah, the Mailata pick should have made perfect sense to anyone with logic. 

Seventh-round picks are very low probability, so the Eagles decided to take a low-probability prospect with all-pro athleticism at a position where that athleticism matters a great deal. They handed that lump of clay to one of the best OL coaches in the NFL. 

It’s not luck that it worked out, but it was improbable. That goes for all seventh-round picks. The Eagles went in with their eyes wide open, and if it failed, big deal. 

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

Green top, white bottom, green socks, and dark shoes = home

White top, white bottom, white socks, and white shoes = road

Simple.

I'm ok with that.  How many times have they even worn the green tops/white bottoms this year?  It seems as if they go with the all-white almost every game. 

12 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

If no Lane then its teh right call to move Mailata to RT and JP at LT. Now when Lane comes backs, I like Tra Thomas thought process of having Mailata at LT and JP at LG. Reasn why is JP has played 14 years on the left side and he would have a more natural flow and transition moving to LG. Keep Herbig at RG. 

That's what I would try. Putting players in positions that fit them best. Herbig should be RG over LG anyway. The only unknown is how Peters would play at LG, but i'll take that chance over putting Herbig there and starting Pryor/Opeta/Brown at RG.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

Thats like saying you lost 100,000 dollars at the casino but you got to eat and drink for free so it's a win. 

Trading a 1st rounder because he got beat out by a 7th rounder and only getting a 3rd rounder is a huge L. 

BUTTTTTTT yes, unfortunately . and because we're so bad at drafting, Id love to get a 3rd rounder. (dont think it'll happen)

So would it be a win if the Eagles traded Mailata for a 3rd round pick but not a win if they trade Dillard for the same value pick? 

39 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

How many games has Dillard even started in this league, and there are those on here that want to call him a bust and/or trade him?  All I hear when people talk about Andrew Thomas with the Giants is "give him time; he wasn’t even slated to start this year until their starter opted out”

We have fielded more than a dozen OL this season because of injury, and people want to trade our first round pick already.     

I don't think Dillard is a bust.  I think a trade may make sense because he's probably not a great option as a swing tackle.  He also is not well served by sitting on the bench for another year.  

52 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Jury is still out on Mailata too.  He was terrible last week.  But he’s shown some promise in previous games.  His upside is very high.  

What’s amazing to me here is if new guys contribute a couple times they’re the "real deal”. I.E. - Mailata, Fulgram. 
But if really good players struggle (think Wentz, Ertz) they’re washed up or done.

Cant figure this place out sometimes.

20 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Green top, white bottom, green socks, and dark shoes = home

White top, white bottom, white socks, and white shoes = road

Simple.

Always black shoes with both sets. White shoes make them look like Nurses.

Plus, I’m in favor of bringing back the silver pants.

Imagine being a Falcons fan

 

4 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Always black shoes with both sets. White shoes make them look like Nurses.

Plus, I’m in favor of bringing back the silver pants.

I'm a white cleat guy all the way.  When I was a kid watching college football and the NFL and collecting cards and all of that it was black cleats in college (white spats for the good players) and the NFL outside of the Bears wore white cleats.  It was like graduating to the NFL got you white cleat status.   Example, one of my favorite Eagles ever. Charlie Garner.  

 

I absolutely hated when the Eagles went to black cleats.  The NFL had much stricter rules prior to the last 3-5 years.  If a team wore white cleats, every player had to wear white and you could have a certain % of your cleat devoted to team color, usually the makers mark.  Same went for black cleats.  Teams had to designate what color cleats they were going to wear.  Now it's a a cluster F of whatever a player wants to wear.  Socks are no longer consistent either.