Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If they were down and needed to catch a break and their option was either Desean Jackson or Greg Ward.  I guarantee you, Reid would put DJax back there, in that moment.  No doubt in my mind.  I would bet most posters agree with me to.  Reid wouldn't be in that position because unlike Howie, Doug and Lurie.  Reid isn't in love with old washed up players for nostalgia reasons.  

Zero chance Reid puts him in there as a 34 yearold who has struggled to stay on the field the last 2 years.  Zero. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No.  The real answer is you don't sign a 33 year old 175 WR to a contract like that and then wonder why he's always hurt.  If you're too old to return punts.  Then you are too old and fragile to be relied on.  O

Nonsense.  Jackson was brought in to be a vertical threat as a 33 year-old...not to return punts. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Javon Hargrave is playing with a pec strain, that might actually be torn. Playing DT with that is tough sledding. 

I hope that's why he's playing so poorly. If he comes out next year fully healed and still plays like garbage he'll go down as another FA bust☹️

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So none then, got it.

I don't know.  There likely have been other punt returners hurt this year.  

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No.  The real answer is you don't sign a 33 year old 175 WR to a contract like that and then wonder why he's always hurt.  If you're too old to return punts.  Then you are too old and fragile to be relied on.  O

I didn't want him back. Howie was emotional with that

16 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Hargrave, low-key, has been one of the worst FA signings in a while. 
 

 

I understood the logic behind the signing but right now it looks bad and you can't really get out of that contract next year either.

21 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If they were down and needed to catch a break and their option was either Desean Jackson or Greg Ward.  I guarantee you, Reid would put DJax back there, in that moment.  No doubt in my mind.  I would bet most posters agree with me to.  Reid wouldn't be in that position because unlike Howie, Doug and Lurie.  Reid isn't in love with old washed up players for nostalgia reasons.  

Anyone disagreeing with doug putting jackson back there doesn’t understand one punt return for a td could win the game. You take the chance there desean gets an alley and is gone. The eagles were down 5 and in a game where if they lost their season was basically over being 0-2 in the division losing to Washington and the giants. So you pull everything out you can.

also I believe ward fumbled the ball on punt return in the ravens game late in the game. One rolled out of bounds. So there’s also trusting ward on punts to hold onto the ball 

This goes back to westbrook winning a game with a punt return against the giants and desean in 2010. With how the offense was sputtering for all but like 3 drives of the game up until that point you are trying to catch lightning in a bottle on a return especially on a giants/eagles rivalry that’s been notorious for stuff like that happening. 

add on desean got hurt on a dirty play. Meanwhile he’s the first returner hurt on a dirty play this year. We’ve had as many dirty play injuries to backup QBs so far this year as punt returners on cheap shots. 

he’s also Not as valuable now because we never know when he is or when he’s not Going to play Or how many plays we get from him. It’s why you don’t trust or rely on him. So i rather maximize him to the fullest before he did get hurt again which would’ve happened that punt return or not. It’s an inevitability.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

LOL.........

 

 

Dude.  You're getting clowned.  Likely is a word you need to remember.  A 34 year old 175 lbs WR is likely to get hurt no matter what!  That's the point.  But if he's able to play and you need a play.  You put him there.  Not treat him like a glass doll.  

If he got hurt on offense, then it is what it is.  He got hurt on a punt return against the freaking Giants.   When he shouldn't have been on the field. 

35 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I think missing in this is that it was also a clear cheap shot by the defender,one that wasn't called, by the same guy that took a swing at ward after his td. Dude should have been ejected from game and fined.😡

You’re correct. Since that cheap shot was the reason he got injured.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

If he got hurt on offense, then it is what it is.  He got hurt on a punt return against the freaking Giants.   When he shouldn't have been on the field. 

We were losing to the "freaking Giants” and the team is trying to win the game and the division. 

Just now, Casey @ Bat said:

You’re correct. Since that cheap shot was the reason he got injured.

Two cheap shots!

The first was to the helmet and drew the flag.  The second was late, even more egregious, and caused the injury.

Not exactly a reasonable expectation when they sent DeSean in for the play.

36 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Wes Welker is a completely different type of player.  He's a stocky slot receiver not a slimmer, "deep threat".  Apples and Oranges.  

I guarantee 31 out of 32 NFL coaches were like, "What the hell were they thinking?"

Bad, bad decision.  

 

He was a starting WR with them, that was my point. We’re likely to put Reagor back there Sunday, where would you classify him. Don’t forget DeSean asked to be put back there with us down 5 with 2 minutes remaining. It’s easy to say bad move after the fact. But, we needed a spark.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

 

Was that a legal block with your back?  Bet that giant player got ripped during film review. 

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

If he got hurt on offense, then it is what it is.  He got hurt on a punt return against the freaking Giants.   When he shouldn't have been on the field. 

What’s your excuse for the rest of basically the hundred percent of games he’s missed since he returned

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

To tell you the truth, I would like Jim to spy him, not always with the same guy. I’m thinking he’ll hurt us more as a runner than a passer..  

Taylor.  His speed is what is called for.  

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

If he got hurt on offense, then it is what it is.  He got hurt on a punt return against the freaking Giants.   When he shouldn't have been on the field. 

I remember when McDougal was injured during a preseason game his rookie season.

Folks here were arguing that you shouldn't be exposing your first round pick to injury during a meaningless game.

These guys are paid to play.

(And another DeSean item...the Steelers would consistently put their most important weapon on offense, AB, back to return punts.)

Just now, ManuManu said:

We were losing to the "freaking Giants”and the team is trying to win the game and the division. 

And?  So let's risk losing our top WR when we really don't need a "huge" return to win the game?  A 34 year old WR who has missed most games the past 2 years and is just coming back.?

(Which we obviously didn't since we won without the "big" return). 

And coming from you, that's a surprise...weren't you saying you would rather them not make the playoffs with 6 or 7 wins this year?

21 hours ago, ManuManu said:

We were losing to the "freaking Giants”and the team is trying to win the game and the division. 

Add on ward fumbled a punt return earlier in the week, late in the ravens game and was fortunate it rolled out of bounds. 

add On you have trust if ward fair catches it like he would’ve probably done in that situation that The offense could go 90 yards to get a game winning touchdown? I don’t based off most of the night. Even a decent return helps the offense not have to go basically length of the field down 5 with just over 2 mins to go  

also add on the offense outside of 3 drives out of 11 had looked awful on the night. 

add on the eagles/giants series has had notorious wins by the eagles catching lightning in a bottle on a punt return. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

What’s your excuse for the rest of basically the hundred percent of games he’s missed since he returned

I said if he got hurt on offense, then it is what it is.  

Just now, Ace Nova said:

I said if he got hurt on offense, then it is what it is.  

It really doesn’t matter offense, special teams, all the dude has to do to get hurt these days is step on the field. He is washed and we never should’ve brought him back. Been a waste of draft capital and money.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

And?  So let's risk losing our top WR when we really don't need a "huge" return to win the game?  A 34 year old WR who has missed most games the past 2 years and is just coming back.?

(Which we obviously didn't since we won without the "big" return). 

And coming from you, that's a surprise...weren't you saying you would rather them not make the playoffs with 6 or 7 wins this year?

Fulgham wasn’t back there.... 

4 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

He was a starting WR with them, that was my point. We’re likely to put Reagor back there Sunday, where would you classify him. Don’t forget DeSean asked to be put back there with us down 5 with 2 minutes remaining. It’s easy to say bad move after the fact. But, we needed a spark.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with putting Reagor back there yet either.  Not his first game back, anyway.  Not with as bad as this WR core has dealt with injuries.  If it's a "must win" situation, maybe. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

And?  So let's risk losing our top WR when we really don't need a "huge" return to win the game?  A 34 year old WR who has missed most games the past 2 years and is just coming back.?

(Which we obviously didn't since we won without the "big" return). 

And coming from you, that's a surprise...weren't you saying you would rather them not make the playoffs with 6 or 7 wins this year?

 

What are you going to name this mountain that you're dying on?

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

(And another DeSean item...the Steelers would consistently put their most important weapon on offense, AB, back to return punts.)

I wouldn't of.  Especially since AB's strength is route running, not speed.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

What are you going to name this mountain that you're dying on?

The truth.  

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

It really doesn’t matter offense, special teams, all the dude has to do to get hurt these days is step on the field. He is washed and we never should’ve brought him back. Been a waste of draft capital and money.

It would have been much easier to swallow had he been hurt on offense, that's all.