3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yep.  If Lane Johnson can't go then you put Pryor at RT as bad as he is.  You keep Mailata at LT.  JP at RG, Herbig at LG and that's that.  They are setting themselves up to fail.  

I think Pryor at RT is an even worse option than Peters at LT

14 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Dude you need a nap.

If coaches flat out don't let a player know where he is going to play leading up to the game that's idiocy.

In this case it makes sense the reason is because Lane is a game time decision which I didn't take into account as I thought Lane was already out.

Having said that it would make sense to keep those decisions close to the vest as to not give the opposition any more than they already know, but I think it's more likely as mentioned because of the Lane situation.

What's nonsense is you passive aggressively calling my post nonsense, irrelevant, or without any knowledge of the nuances of football.

Seems like you may need a nap or maybe just a hug.

 

Ok... plenty of sources out there have Johnson as a limited participant in Practice today.  If he were ruled out, it would be best to just shut him down.

https://www.pennlive.com/philadelphiaeagles/2020/10/eagles-lane-johnson-returns-to-practice-crevon-leblanc-joins-injury-report.html

 

Nothing passive aggressive about calling your posts nonsense.  Its true.  Your staunch assertion that the decision to put a more reliable, more dangerous (even if just marginally) returner in for the most critical punt return potentially of the season was a mistake, is ridiculous.  Teams have been doing that forever.   They've even done it with older players, Hall of Fame level players.  

 

Maybe you need to find an example of Ward doing the thing that you said he could have done, but never has, that Desean did in coming up to field that punt and saved field position for the team.   Obviously, Desean wanted to make a big return... but at the least, he could save the hidden yardage that Ward has been giving up ALL year, and that I've been pointing out ALL year.   

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Obviously.  But they can’t keep swapping guys.  Get 5 guys practicing all week in their spots.  Lane is still a game time decision. Then give either JM or JP reps at RT and shelf Lane for another week.  Cause if he pushes it and gets hurt again.  Then it’s more shuffling.  

I hear ya. I'd prefer he take until after the bye to get better, but they aren't willing to do that.   And, I think that this is a massive indictment of Matt Pryor.  Seems they would rather play the shuffle game than be forced into playing him.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Pryor is guard for now.  Shame.  I had hopes for him.  

Pryor is also the backup at RT.  

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I know.  But what I’m saying is, he really should be a guard right now.  He’s only a back up RT because well..2020. 

Agreed there.  He's not a tackle.  But, then again, it seems he's not a guard.  The team showed their confidence in him at OG when he came back from the Covid list and they started Opeta at LG and moved Herbig to RG, rather than just inserting Pryor back at RG.

19 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If Lane is a game time decision then they should be smart and just hold him out until after the bye week.  I hate hearing DP say if Lane wants to play I'm not getting in his way.  Lane could be 80% this week, get dinged up and have to go into the bye week at 70%.  He could just stay out and get as close to 100% as possible.  I really don't how this situation is playing out and how the Eagles are handling it.  

 

I agree I think the coaches need to be coaches and make those decisions that are best for the team.

Blaine Bishop wanted to play against the bucs in the playoffs even though he was hurt and that choice was detrimental to the team.

 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

I agree I think the coaches need to be coaches and make those decisions that are best for the team.

Blaine Bishop wanted to play against the bucs in the playoffs even though he was hurt and that choice was detrimental to the team.

Here we agree.

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ok... plenty of sources out there have Johnson as a limited participant in Practice today.  If he were ruled out, it would be best to just shut him down.

https://www.pennlive.com/philadelphiaeagles/2020/10/eagles-lane-johnson-returns-to-practice-crevon-leblanc-joins-injury-report.html

 

Nothing passive aggressive about calling your posts nonsense.  Its true.  Your staunch assertion that the decision to put a more reliable, more dangerous (even if just marginally) returner in for the most critical punt return potentially of the season was a mistake, is ridiculous.  Teams have been doing that forever.   They've even done it with older players, Hall of Fame level players.  

 

Maybe you need to find an example of Ward doing the thing that you said he could have done, but never has, that Desean did in coming up to field that punt and saved field position for the team.   Obviously, Desean wanted to make a big return... but at the least, he could save the hidden yardage that Ward has been giving up ALL year, and that I've been pointing out ALL year.   

Yet they don't do it with players with extensive injury histories and who have just come off an injury and are on a pitch count. Nor would any thing in deseans last 4 seasons suggest he could or would make a play as a PR.

I don't have access to wards video collection of punt returns, I doubt that's something I could simply google

 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yet they don't do it with players with extensive injury histories and who have just come off an injury and are on a pitch count. Nor would any thing in deseans last 4 seasons suggest he could or would make a play as a PR.

 

He made one... just by catching it, but we are in a circle now.

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Goofballs that haven't been banned recently no?

And returned from that ban because multiple board members went to bat for him.  If you were banned,  no one would notice.

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He made one... just by catching it, but we are in a circle now.

And was that made play worth losing a starting receiver?

It's not about whether or not desean at 34 is a better  PR than Greg ward he obviously is, the question is, is desean so much better and Is securing that punt where he did have more value to the team then desean would offer for the rest of the season at WR and dies the reward if securing that punt outweigh the risk of the high probability desean gets hurt doing so.

I say no.

You say yes.

We can agree to disagree

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And returned from that ban because multiple board members went to bat for him.  If you were banned,  no one would notice.

How do you know who went to bat for him or that they did. You start a campaign??? 

How do you know who or wouldn't care if I weren't here, did you take a poll?and if so that's creepy dude. 

How bout you stop trying to generate consensus and speak for yourself Instead of assuming you speak for others and others can do the same.

Man up dude.

I'll help you out.

Instead of speaking for others, say, " I went to bat for 4 for4" and" if you weren't here I wouldn't care."

Not difficult.

 

Just now, Utebird said:

How do you know who went to bat for him or that they did. You start a campaign??? 

How do you know who or wouldn't care if I weren't here, did you take a poll?and if so that's creepy dude. 

How bout you stop trying to generate consensus and speak for yourself I stead of assuming you speak for others and others can do the same.

Man up dude.

I'll help you out.

Instead of speaking for others, say, " I went to bat for 4 for4" and" if you weren't here I wouldn't care."

Not difficult.

 

Because I am in the know

Just now, downundermike said:

Because I am in the know

Fair dinkum😒

17 minutes ago, Utebird said:

How do you know who went to bat for him or that they did. You start a campaign??? 

How do you know who or wouldn't care if I weren't here, did you take a poll?and if so that's creepy dude. 

How bout you stop trying to generate consensus and speak for yourself Instead of assuming you speak for others and others can do the same.

Man up dude.

I'll help you out.

Instead of speaking for others, say, " I went to bat for 4 for4" and" if you weren't here I wouldn't care."

Not difficult.

 

I don’t need to generate consensus, it is already there.  

That response to Teddy taking a late hit was very different than Dallas' lack of response to Dalton getting wrecked.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Samuel looked like he got shot out of a cannon. 

He did run a 4.32 forty and very athletic. I liked him a lot coming out. He would look really nice in the slot here. 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

I don’t need to generate consensus, it is already there.  

What ever makes you feel better mate.

38 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

That response to Teddy taking a late hit was very different than Dallas' lack of response to Dalton getting wrecked.

That's the first thing that came to mind for me too.

35 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

He did run a 4.32 forty and very athletic. I liked him a lot coming out. He would look really nice in the slot here. 

The biggest problem Curtis Samuel has had is consistency. He will  look like this for one week and look super active and involved but then four weeks go by he does nothing. He reminds me of a  Slightly better Tavon Austin. Not in terms of style or play just the fact that he will be big for a week and then do nothing for like a month or more 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The biggest problem Curtis Samuel has had is consistency. He will  look like this for one week and look super active and involved but then four weeks go by he does nothing. He reminds me of a  Slightly better Tavon Austin. Not in terms of style or play just the fact that he will be big for a week and then do nothing for like a month or more 

I think some of that is the product of bad luck (last year Kyle Allen missed him wide open downfield so many times) and then this year it’s all about Anderson and Moore. I’d love to have him here. He’d be such a great gadget guy who can also play receiver well. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I think some of that is the product of bad luck (last year Kyle Allen missed him wide open downfield so many times) and then this year it’s all about Anderson and Moore. I’d love to have him here. He’d be such a great gadget guy who can also play receiver well. 

I mean If i am the Panthers I want Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore being the focal points. I think both of them are better wide receivers than Samuel. When mccaffrey comes back i think his role reduces even more. so I don’t really blame their offense for going that way. Like you said great gadget guy. I have a feeling someone overpays for him on the FA market this year. He’s better imo than perriman and i thought perriman wasn’t worth what he got. 

5 hours ago, metal said:

Makes a lot of sense. We have a need there and he was decent last year in his role as a 4th DT. Only got released due to the numbers game. I would welcome him back for sure.

This Smith, LB, I don't know anything about him though.

Smith is another light athletic OLB.  Cowpads poached him from Chicago’s PS the same week we poached Jamon Brown.  Pretty solid career at FAU but an UDFA. Saw one article with him as a day three sleeper.  Only saw him play a few times in college and didn’t really see anything that stood out.  

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Find an example of Ward fielding a punt that he wasn't camped under before he caught it.   Just one.   Until you have that evidence, there is absolutely no shred of evidence that Ward would have done the same, because he never has.

To be fair, he did precisely that in the game against the Giants. It was on the Giants punt immediately after the one where he let the ball hit the ground and roll for about sixteen more yards. It was obvious that he was scolded about that decision of his, so he made it a point to quickly run up to field it at the thirty yard line. 

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

So they are dangling the guy that was shoved down our throats as this jack of all trades defender who Philly is going to love while praising Marcus Epps who has not shown an ounce of potential.

I actually watch the all 22. Epps is much better than you project. Did he make rookie mistakes you would think a late round S would make last year and some into this year? Yes, but he is the third best S on the team right now.  Good speed compared to Parks.  Parks strikes me as a poor man’s Mills. Wallace has more potential.