1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's very interesting.   I didn't think the Amish voted, based on their religious stance.   

Guess again

47 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah... but... if you don't play, you can't win.   At least in the case of these roster lottery tickets, there's really no cost.  Churning the bottom of the roster looking for that diamond in the rough is always a good move.   UDFAs, late round picks, and waiver wire claims are essential to complete roster construction, because they are the cheap glue pieces you always need.  Fulgham just seems to have been a jackpot on the slot machine.  But even a blind squirrel finds a truffle every now and then.

Eagles seem to do pretty well at mining other teams cast offs  They also do pretty well at UDFAs.  I am curious to check out Jacquet on the all 22. 

They didn't "abandon" the run, Dallas adjusted their defense, and Scott was something like 7 for 9 yards the second half, the big holes that were there the first half disappeared and he started bouncing everything outside b/c he's not big enough to knock a safety back in the hole and pick up 3 yards.

What was strange was abandoning Rodgers, who did a nice Ertz imitation the previous couple games, but 16 snaps, 0 throws on Sunday..

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Who cares?  If the NFL doesn’t like it they can change the playoff format.  The issue most people have with it is the division winner getting the playoff game at home.  That won’t be as big an advantage this season because of limited fan attendance.

I’m surprised they have not changed it , I know it doesnt happen often but it seems they just can’t help themselves changing rules every off season for the sake of changing them.

I would not be against making 8 wins a requirement for hosting the playoff game. 

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Eagles seem to do pretty well at mining other teams cast offs  They also do pretty well at UDFAs.  I am curious to check out Jacquet on the all 22. 

Maybe they should trade their higher picks for a bunch of 6th and 7th rounders

1 minute ago, Br3 said:

I’m surprised they have not changed it , I know it doesnt happen often but it seems they just can’t help themselves changing rules every off season for the sake of changing them.

I would not be against making 8 wins a requirement for hosting the playoff game. 

With 7 teams getting in this year it also dilutes the playoff seedlings a little.  Right now as it stands it will be either the Rams or Bears who would miss out.  I don’t think the Bears will end the season with 10 wins, but we will see.

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

False. He threw it away a lot in 2017. He's regressed since(go figure)

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/passing_advanced.htm
2019: 10 (26th)
2018: 3 (40th)

It's just who he is.

I don’t really see any LB or CB available who would help the Eagles much.  I would like to see the Eagles pick up a short-yardage RB, though.  I’m getting sick of seeing 3rd and 2, 3rd and 3 plays where you know the Eagles have to throw the ball.

 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

Decoy i guess

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

Yup.  We’re halfway through the season and still using Wentz/Hurts as a WR.  So stupid, and hasn’t shown itself to be remotely effective on any single play yet.

Wake up, Doug.  Hurts needs to be in the backfield beside Wentz if he’s out there at all.

56 minutes ago, RLC said:

I still come back to this: this team is 5-3 with "average" QB play. Not "good", "average". That's Ryan Fitzpatrick level. We beat Washington/Cincinnati, but still lose to Baltimore/Pittsburgh. 

So yes, it's on Wentz. It's not coaching. It's not the OL, as Carson played his best 2 games against Pittsburgh/Baltimore. The WR production has actually been ok. The defense is average, which again, is not what's killing us (16 in DVOA before Dallas game).

I like Carson as a person, but instead of saying he'll "play better", he should focus on his mechanics. He's still throwing off his back foot in clean pockets. 

His mechanics had nothing to do with any of his turnovers the other night

So that said, there has to be some explanation for his decision-making.  And the only factors I can come up with are the ones you are ignoring and pretending that Wentz somehow plays in a vacuum and he does not.  No QB in the NFL does

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

That needs to get thrown in a dumpster. It's not getting any attention from anyone other than the CB, which you can do with literally any WR, even JJAW

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I like both Harbaugh and Tomlin.  Sadly, I don't think DP is on their level.  I think 2017 was lightning in a bottle.  Everything that needed to happen happened.  Even when we lost our quarterback, Foles hot and cold streaks lined up perfect for the rest of the year.  

DP won Eagles fans over in 2017 first by being super aggressive during the regular season and then of course winning SB52.  Since then, I can't think of a coaching job he's done where I've said "this is the guy to get us Lombardi #2".  He does more head scratching things on game day than I would like.  He doesn't adjust in game.  He's loyal to a fault His PC's are just complete jokes along with his explanations and I just don't think he's the guy we need here long term.  

I honestly have no idea what I want from this team.  We have no identity.  We don't have a strength.  We don't have a franchise quarterback or a defense capable of winning games on their own.  We have a good running back but he hasn't proved much this year and is now hurt.  He had 2 great 70+ yard runs but outside of those 2 carries he didn't do much at all.  We don't have a screen game.  There's nothing this team does particularly well.  

 I know I want Howie gone.  I want Jim Schwartz gone.  I want aging, injured, butt hurt veterans gone.

If DP is to stay the head coach then he needs a true OC to come in and call the plays. 

I don't know what to think of Carson now either.  Was 2017 a mirage?  It's becoming more and more likely that it was.  He's flirting with Jameis Winston numbers right now and he signed a deal to be a backup for Brees.  I just have no idea what to expect from Wentz and that's not a good thing for a $120 million quarterback.

 

I'm starting to think he's not on their level either. It was a bad decision to bring in so many OCs. He has to deal with injuries again but they should have looked into their training and conditioning if they really cared.

I think he needs a legit OC to bounce ideas off of. He may need a team and that's find but they need to get that team for him. It's been 3 years of injuries. He should have contingency plans for when injuries start in a season since it seems to happen every year.

I'm not sure what the problem with Wentz is because there's too many factors that could be contributing. No offseason, no Oline, too many OCs could be a problem, maybe his QB coach sucks, injuries at receiver, even the Hurts pick could be messing with him. I don't think it's the concussion though

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

hopefully the eagles aren't fooled into thinking they're actual contenders this year...just because the division stinks.  they need to be sellers today...but i doubt they realize that...so i'll settle for them doing nothing at all. 

They're in first place. They're already fooled

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

 

That doesn't absolve the bad things IMO

28 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well the Amish do practice communal farming.  Need a barn raised, neighbors band to help.  Crop needs bringing in, neighbors band to help.  Cows need to be moved to a different pasture, neighbors band to help.   Of course, that was the way of farming and ranching before WWII.   That’s what my dad grew up doing and his grandparents  and great grandparents.  My dad’s older brother has some postcards some traveling photographer did during harvest time of just that.  (Guess they were socialists and didn’t know it.)   Neighbors help neighbors.  Still happens in my neighborhood.  

Thats not socialism as it is all voluntary and not compelled by law

 

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

Doug has publicly said this year every year of his tenure with Carson

Maybe he needs to coach better so that Wentz doesnt have to throw it away or scramble so much

Its all related, to say its all on Carson is an oversimplification

It is kind of funny though, when a coach has to "coach" his QB to throw it away rather than just creating better game plans or creating mismatches

29 minutes ago, greend said:

Guess again

I'm wrong often.  I'm getting used to it now.

40 minutes ago, RLC said:

The OL was good on Sunday. We ran well. We pass-protected well. Carson was terrible. 
In the Rams/Bengals game, the pass-protection was actually good...and Carson was bad too.

You want to blame pass-protection on the first Washington game? Fine. Even the Giants game? Ok. But for the most part, the OL has done its job.

The coaches are telling Wentz to throw it away, but he just won't do it.

Nah.  He does it, he just doesnt do it as often as he should.

 

 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I still come back to this: this team is 5-3 with "average" QB play. Not "good", "average". That's Ryan Fitzpatrick level. We beat Washington/Cincinnati, but still lose to Baltimore/Pittsburgh. 

So yes, it's on Wentz. It's not coaching. It's not the OL, as Carson played his best 2 games against Pittsburgh/Baltimore. The WR production has actually been ok. The defense is average, which again, is not what's killing us (16 in DVOA before Dallas game).

I like Carson as a person, but instead of saying he'll "play better", he should focus on his mechanics. He's still throwing off his back foot in clean pockets. 

I think it’s on wentz and coaching. 4th and 1 in the first half at the Dallas 44. We had been running great up until that point and Carson is struggling mightily. Scott had seven yards per carry. Add on we didn’t get the play in and to the line until 3 seconds. Add on wind wasn’t helping matters. That’s the case with that important of a play you call a timeout not rush the play cause it took too long. That’s on your head coach. 

we can keep living with our head in the sand or admit Carson is part of the problem and so is doug. Say whatever we want and make any excuses we want but 2017 offense is looking like an outlier compared to the rest of the 5 years with Doug and Carson. If you believe it’s just Carson there’s plenty of poor decisions by Doug or play calls that don’t make sense or a team not knowing how to play to the talent they have until December the last two years. That’s on coaching.

It can be both. 

40 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well the Amish do practice communal farming.  Need a barn raised, neighbors band to help.  Crop needs bringing in, neighbors band to help.  Cows need to be moved to a different pasture, neighbors band to help.   Of course, that was the way of farming and ranching before WWII.   That’s what my dad grew up doing and his grandparents  and great grandparents.  My dad’s older brother has some postcards some traveling photographer did during harvest time of just that.  (Guess they were socialists and didn’t know it.)   Neighbors help neighbors.  Still happens in my neighborhood.  

Not sure I'd classify it as socialism, I'd classify it as being neighborly.  It's what people should do all the time... and the government isn't a part of it mandating any of it.

15 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Thats not socialism as it is all voluntary and not compelled by law

 

Maybe he needs to coach better so that Wentz doesnt have to throw it away or scramble so much

Its all related, to say its all on Carson is an oversimplification

It is kind of funny though, when a coach has to "coach" his QB to throw it away rather than just creating better game plans or creating mismatches

When you roll out to the opposite side of the field with no receivers, you should throw it away. He refuses and fumbled as usual

49 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And there's no service there.  Blocking Russian interference at the polls, so all signals are being jammed.

When the Russians interfere with the eagles, that's an act of war in my book.

31 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm starting to think he's not on their level either. It was a bad decision to bring in so many OCs. He has to deal with injuries again but they should have looked into their training and conditioning if they really cared.

I think he needs a legit OC to bounce ideas off of. He may need a team and that's find but they need to get that team for him. It's been 3 years of injuries. He should have contingency plans for when injuries start in a season since it seems to happen every year.

I'm not sure what the problem with Wentz is because there's too many factors that could be contributing. No offseason, no Oline, too many OCs could be a problem, maybe his QB coach sucks, injuries at receiver, even the Hurts pick could be messing with him. I don't think it's the concussion though

They're in first place. They're already fooled

That doesn't absolve the bad things IMO

Besides wentz needing to massively improve causes he’s been bad this year outside of a couple of games. I’m at the point of i like to see Doug not calling plays and see if that has any change or improvement. We’ve seen 4.5 seasons of Doug as the play caller. Yet only in 2017 was the offense a top tier offense. Yes we’ve have sustained injuries over the last three years but we’ve also had issues incorporating guys or playing to their strengths until what feels like late in the season the last two years.  This is 1 great year on offense and 3.5 years of wildly inconsistent offense from week to week. It’s not as if things got worse or didn’t improve we couldn’t have Doug take over again. 

before anyone says the plays would work if Carson and guys perform and execute, literally you can make that argument for 75-80% of the league. Heck the giants are in overtime if Daniel jones could execute the last play properly. However that does not excuse the giants offense being lackluster most of the season 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

He was probably so excited to throw it away to run back to the huddle to find out he's playing WR the next play cause Doug wants to use Hurts

I've been critical of Doug's playcalling more times then not this year but 3 of those 4 TOs were solely on Wentz. I won't blame him for the deep ball to Hightower that got picked. He had every intention I believe to throw across the field which more times then not leads to a TO. Throw the thing away

2 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

They vote/Allowed to vote. 

They do not participate in Social security/pay taxes etc though 

 Amish most certainly pay taxes