Tweets not posting here for some reason, it said DeSean not out there for practice.

But I thought "he isn't hurt" 🙄

4 hours ago, greend said:

No, you really wouldn't

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Statistically there is no proof of this. 

That doesn't bother Bacarty even if he doesn't know the correct way to spell the rum, lulz. He watches football so he knows

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

There are other factors involved, IMO, of team’s play-action game — is it synced with the run game, what formation are they in, what personnel is the defense deploying. 

One of the reasons SF’s P-A game is so effective is that Shanahan is maniacal about marrying the run and pass so it all looks the same. It seems simple, but he’s the best at it. Plus, having a guy like Jusceck (I’m sure I botched that name) dictates the defense’s personnel. 

As a defender, I would guess that OL movement is probably the strongest factor, and thus easier to mask in zone blocking schemes. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

That play looks like the first time the inmates put on pads in "The Longest Yard".  What is Seumalo even doing?  He had perfect position and does nothing with Kerrigan and that causes the domino effect for the rest.  

Sill wonder how Carson held onto that ball

6 minutes ago, greend said:

under now shut up

Struck a nerve, huh?

For those of you with fantasy teams

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I’m normally "Mr. Run The F-ing Ball”.  As loudly as possible.  Maybe I was distracted by being hungover or by how bad Carson/Offensive Line was playing.   But it wasn’t one of those games that I was obsessing over it as much.  I knew it would have been a challenge.  What I didn’t get was where were the jet sweeps and creative ways to use a Reagor and Jackson?   You can build some sort of a running game off of those kind of plays.  Maybe the playbook was vanilla because of the O-line being pieced together.  So I’ll give Doug a pass this week on the run game.  What I won’t ignore is the lack of adjustments once Del Rio adjusted.  We could have slanted them to death.  But Doug kept calling deep drops for Carson with a weak O-Line against their D-line.   With Scott, Clement, Jackson and Reagor, you have some decent YAK players there.  Slants and Flats to get the true WCO going.  This wasn’t the game to expand the route trees.  

There was an early sequence where it was 3rd and 7. Wash jumped offsides and it was 3rd and 2. Next play Wentz gets Ertz on a quick slant for 5 or so yards. I don't think we saw that again the rest of the day, and it made no sense why we didn't. Maddening. 

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

sure there is, you chose not to believe it

Eagles passed the ball 75% of the time and had the lowest average per play on PA

Titans passed the ball NE and Rams had the highest run rate and were 3rd and 4th on average per PA play. 

So you’re taking one week of results to disprove 10 years of evidence? Of course there will be games like that. 

We aren’t competing with today’s good nfl teams like the Ravens and 49ers when we have a bunch of old scrubs like DJax and Jefferey. What the actual f did this franchise do this offseason. It needs a major overhaul. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 But but he runs fast and was good 10 years ago.   

Maybe he’s making time for his studying of more Hitler quotes..... errrr I mean more fake Hitler quotes. 

6 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Struck a nerve, huh?

just don't want anyone missing games due to covid. And mostly tongue in cheek

Someone on D looked to be limping off the practice field. Couldn't make out who it was. Looked like a lineman 

23 minutes ago, Nivraga said:

This is once instance where I would say the data is either wrong or just misleading. First, play action is now over used which probably leads to it not being affected by the quality of the run game. But ...

Scenario

Team A has a poor run game and has pass / run ratio of 60 / 40. Team B has a good run game and ratio of 50 / 50. Going into a game team A is going to have a game plan with at least some focus toward stopping team B on the ground. Where as team B will be less focused on Team A's ground game.  Through out the game both teams have used play action a fair amount, a normal amount IE somewhat conservatively. Late in the game Team B has a TD lead and the ball and has been killing team A on the ground all game. At this point play action is going to be very effective - Team A was focused on stopping the run coming into the game and now they really need a stop. They're already loading the box and using a lot of zone (it's important to note that not all QBs are equal at selling play action - some just go through the motions while others have developed it as an art) but now when the QB turns to hand the ball off the LBers who are already crowding the LOS are going to bite hard toward the run and that will leave a gaping whole in the short to intermediate zone.

 

If team A has been struggling to run the ball as per usual and has a scoreboard deficit, Team B is likely to ignore the play action.

 

2 examples.

I don't remember the exact game but

1 vs the Saints 2005 - 2007ish - The Saints game plan was to move their LBers out wide leaving a huge hole in the middle of their defense. They did this, as Sean Payton would explain later, to take away the screens, wheel and flat routes to Brian Westbrook. They also all but ignored play action because statistically AR wouldn't run the ball. From early in the game and for the entire game run plays for Westbrook up the middle gained 8 to 12 yards, yet there were 6 or less of them. AR kept calling screens, wheels and flats to Westbrook and they kept getting shut down for little or no gain or losses. AR also used PA frequently - wasted effort. The Eagles lost that game ugly.

2005 week 7 vs Chargers. Coming into this game Ladanian Tomlinson had been destroying teams running the ball. The Eagles D on the other hand were giving up huge running games to average running backs. Questions were asked how the Eagles could possibly hope to slow Tomlinson down - jokes were made that he might run for 1000 in this game alone. He didn't, 17 for 7. But playing action worked. The Eagles were so focused on stopping LT that they would bite when ever there was a hint of handing the ball to him. Since San Diego's offense ran through LT Drew Brees didn't have his best day either - but play action worked.

 

 

I think  the data is pretty convincing and the analysis is pretty thorough.  I'm not sure what impact play action has on the screen game because I'm fairly certain that most screen, wheel and flat routes plays aren't using play action.   

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah no Ish.   Why would anyone ponder that?  

because we're all in this together and these are unprecedented times

 

Hargravezzzzz Bowlzzzz!

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Someone on D looked to be limping off the practice field. Couldn't make out who it was. 

Probably Slay?

7 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

We aren’t competing with today’s good nfl teams like the Ravens and 49ers when we have a bunch of old scrubs like DJax and Jefferey. What the actual f did this franchise do this offseason. It needs a major overhaul. 

Drafting 3 WR's like Reagor, Hightower, and Watkins.  It takes time for WR's to develop in the NFL.   (Jury is still out on JJAW as well).  

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Doug needs to provide advice too and know when his QB isn't throwing well.  

This is a hard one for me. On it's face I agree with this, but we've also seen Carson not throw well for a couple quarters and then bring it back suddenly in the 4th quarter. He also wasn't throwing that poorly in the 1st. It's the slump argument, do you let the hitter keep swinging to get out of it?

9 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

We aren’t competing with today’s good nfl teams like the Ravens and 49ers when we have a bunch of old scrubs like DJax and Jefferey. What the actual f did this franchise do this offseason. It needs a major overhaul. 

If the Reagor, Hightower, Watkins picks dont pan out then the Eagles either need to replace Howie or just trade their higher picks for proven WRs.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Probably Slay?

Nah, too big. Looked like a lineman or LB. Whoever this is. Might be Shaun Bradley. No one tweeted about it though so maybe its nothing. 

The jury is still out as to why didn’t do whatever was necessary to get Hopkins.  It was a no brainer.

2 minutes ago, twistr said:

This is a hard one for me. On it's face I agree with this, but we've also seen Carson not throw well for a couple quarters and then bring it back suddenly in the 4th quarter. He also wasn't throwing that poorly in the 1st. It's the slump argument, do you let the hitter keep swinging to get out of it?

You give him an easy throw that works for the woes you were having on the o-line.  I agree it would be OK to see if he adjusted but they were getting in his face with every drop back.  They needed to move him to at least stop that for a play. 

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You’re blind.  Sure it takes time for young receivers.  Jury is home telling everyone about the case against JJAW.   The main concern is crap drafting for other positions.  Already missed on WR numerous times in the past.  O-Line, D-Line, CB etc.....Jury isn’t still out on those areas either.  Howie is clueless and Lurie is just as bad for enabling him.   

Well, we have Driscoll, 4th round pick starting as a rookie (albeit due to injuries).  Who could have predicted your all-pro guard and 2nd year (1st round pick) tackle would be out for the year?

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nah, too big. Looked like a lineman or LB. Whoever this is. Might be Shaun Bradley. No one tweeted about it though so maybe its nothing. 

Looks like Matt Leo