Just now, Bacarty2 said:

What specifically are you looking for?

I jhust gave it to Manu, teams with better run/pass attack have better average yards per play on average 

why are you so dumb?

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

So let’s get this straight. Let’s say the Eagles aren’t lying and DeSean is totally healthy. The Eagles had to have known for months they were going to give DeSean days off and make him limited during games to keep him fresh. You don’t just decide this in September.

and yet still, with knowing they were going to limit their #1 WR even when he’s not injured(which no other team in the NFL is doing) they waited until late April to address the position.

its utterly laughable.

If you recall from the Spring, Howie explained that the WR market was much richer at the beginning of the FA season than where the prices ultimately landed.  So they chose to make an investment at DT, a position, much like WR, that had been hit with injuries in the past few seasons.

It is easy to criticize a decision when only looking at the results, without considering the limited information available when the decision was made.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

We were moving the ball and they only crossed midfield once the first half , what adjustments were necessary?

With a 17 point lead why not call a few plays of the so called wrinkles they were apparently going to add in the playbook. Idk. It might have been a good time to throw some new plays out there they were working on it camp. Just looked like thre same offense from last year 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

zzzzzzzzzzzzz 

wrong

Jeez, I came just to see what was up, but immediately remembered why I avoid EMB after a loss. This place feels miserable. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

No other team in the NFL has uninjured #1 WRs on limited snaps in week 1 of a season. I’ve never heard of something so crazy. They took him out for almost an entire quarter because they wanted to "limit him”

But apparently he’s 100% healthy.

Wait so your complaint is what again? That we didn't address receiver before September?  I'm confused, if D-Jax was out was Reagor in? We have receivers now I don't think D-Jax is in the long term plans of the team. Kinda just helping us hold things together, I mean when have we been a team that relies on 1 receiver?

 

Of all the things to complain about.

2 hours ago, RLC said:

If we can beat the Rams, there's a real path to 3-1. 

Welcome to the world of Eagles. Enjoy your stay

26 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

The jury is still out as to why didn’t do whatever was necessary to get Hopkins.  It was a no brainer.

Didn't he just get a contract? 

19 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

So another old player that needs breaks

Just now, beto_eagles said:

This place is just miserable. 

Is there a reason we shouldn't be?

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

With a 17 point lead why not call a few plays of the so called wrinkles they were apparently going to add in the playbook. Idk. It might have been a good time to throw some new plays out there they were working on it camp. Just looked like thre same offense from last year 

Like the deep out to Reagor that turned into an INT? 

 

Just now, greend said:

Wait so your complaint is what again? That we didn't address receiver before September?  I'm confused, if D-Jax was out was Reagor in? We have receivers now I don't think D-Jax is in the long term plans of the team. Kinda just helping us hold things together, I mean when have we been a team that relies on 1 receiver?

 

Of all the things to complain about.

My complaint is that they should have done more at WR in the offseason, specifically in free agency. When you come off a season with the worst group of WRs in NFL history and your additions to the position are Jalen Reagor, John Hightower, and Quez Watkins, you didn’t adequately address the position.

Its compounded by the fact that they need to limit their best WR to keep him fresh.

Their receiving corps is bottom 5 in the NFL and the best one they have needs to take entire quarters off apparently because they’re afraid he’ll get hurt.

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Is there a reason we shouldn't be?

Other than we have suffered exactly and only one loss and everyone is going overboard about it you mean?

The Eagles medical staff is being cautious with players, especially veterans, after years of issues. This is not a bad thing.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Like the deep out to Reagor that turned into an INT? 

I was talking more along the lines of some rpo's and this so called Shannon offense they wanted to incorporate. I know running the ball wasn't effective and the oline sucked but can't be throwing it 50 times a game. Wentz is good outside the pocket. He would've taken a lesser beating with some quick throws and bootlegs

1 hour ago, greend said:

Maybe you "crash harder" but the point is all you have to do is crash a little to make it effective. The stats aren't based on how bad they got fooled only that it worked.

A guy taking 4 false steps is different than a guy that takes 2.

Passing lanes are going to be wider and bigger if I guy takes a passive false step towards the run or takes 3 false steps towards the run.

I'm not saying play action without ever running  the ball can't get a defender to take a false step I'm saying conventional wisdom suggests by running the ball there's a higher probability a defender will take more false steps.

Now if one doesn't believe the benefit of running  to set up play action is worth the cost of running the ball and one thinks that those 1 false steps are more beneficial than more power to you pass 50 times a game with half of those passes being play action run 17 times and lose. ☹️

One can try and justify the game plan and in the end  the game plan heavy play action heavy passing against the wash team failed.

Having said that 2020 football is even different from 2017 football to where the stats on play action were compiled.

Play action from the shotgun in a 4 wide set is a lot different than play action with a qb under center with a FB and RB behind him. It's a different game than it was even 3 years ago not to mention how does RPO figure into play action stats and that since 2017 defenses have caught up to RPO.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

My complaint is that they should have done more at WR in the offseason, specifically in free agency. When you come off a season with the worst group of WRs in NFL history and your additions to the position are Jalen Reagor, John Hightower, and Quez Watkins, you didn’t adequately address the position.

Its compounded by the fact that they need to limit their best WR to keep him fresh.

Their receiving corps is bottom 5 in the NFL and the best one they have needs to take entire quarters off apparently because they’re afraid he’ll get hurt.

You mean after 1 game? I would guess that if DeSean did get hurt you would be ****ing about how stupid they were to not rest him more.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

Other than we have suffered exactly and only one loss and everyone is going overboard about it you mean?

I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't against Washington and Haskins😒

11 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

What specifically are you looking for?

I jhust gave it to Manu, teams with better run/pass attack have better average yards per play on average 

Data that supports play action success is impacted by run success.  

4 minutes ago, greend said:

You mean after 1 game? I would guess that if DeSean did get hurt you would be ****ing about how stupid they were to not rest him more.

No I wouldn't. If he's fully healthy like they claim, you play your healthy players. If they get hurt they get hurt. Dude could tear his ACL running a route this Sunday untouched. Name me one 100% healthy #1 WR who was on a pitch count. I can never recall that happening before.

It's Fing insane to limit the snaps of a fully healthy WR, especially when everything behind him is either an unproven rookie or not very good.

And if they knew this was going to be a thing, they should've addressed the position better. Just awful roster management by Howie, which is as per usual the last 3 offseasons.

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

Naw, I'm not even close to a boomer, but good try. Keep on with your anti-intellectualism, I'm sure it's served you so well. 

Anti intellectualism???

You called me a "Karen"for saying stats don't tell a whole picture.

Let's assume that I'm wrong on that assertion how does that have anything to do with being a Karen???

Then again maybe in Canada the term Karen has a different meaning than it does here in America.🤔

2 hours ago, RLC said:

If we can beat the Rams, there's a real path to 3-1. 

They’ll have deebo Samuel back for week 4. And kittle would be 3 weeks from his injury. He finished the game last week. Also signed sanu would be week 3 in the system. 

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

A guy taking 4 false steps is different than a guy that takes 2.

Passing lanes are going to be wider and bigger if I guy takes a passive false step towards the run or takes 3 false steps towards the run.

I'm not saying play action without ever running  the ball can't get a defender to take a false step I'm saying conventional wisdom suggests by running the ball there's a higher probability a defender will take more false steps.

Now if one doesn't believe the benefit of running  to set up play action is worth the cost of running the ball and one thinks that those 1 false steps are more beneficial than more power to you pass 50 times a game with half of those passes being play action run 17 times and lose. ☹️

One can try and justify the game plan and in the end  the game plan heavy play action heavy passing against the wash team failed.

Having said that 2020 football is even different from 2017 football to where the stats on play action were compiled.

Play action from the shotgun in a 4 wide set is a lot different than play action with a qb under center with a FB and RB behind him. It's a different game than it was even 3 years ago not to mention how does RPO figure into play action stats and that since 2017 defenses have caught up to RPO.

It's the NFL play action is not buying you 4 steps ever! Those lb wouldn't even make our squad.

It's meant to freeze or a false step. One step is enough to create plenty of separation. 

Even if you told the other team no run was coming muscle memory and habit will still make it work sometimes. It works because it could be happening not that it is or does happen 

10 minutes ago, greend said:

You mean after 1 game? I would guess that if DeSean did get hurt you would be ****ing about how stupid they were to not rest him more.

Naw i would be like well we all saw that one eventually coming haha. 

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

A guy taking 4 false steps is different than a guy that takes 2.

Passing lanes are going to be wider and bigger if I guy takes a passive false step towards the run or takes 3 false steps towards the run.

I'm not saying play action without ever running  the ball can't get a defender to take a false step I'm saying conventional wisdom suggests by running the ball there's a higher probability a defender will take more false steps.

Now if one doesn't believe the benefit of running  to set up play action is worth the cost of running the ball and one thinks that those 1 false steps are more beneficial than more power to you pass 50 times a game with half of those passes being play action run 17 times and lose. ☹️

One can try and justify the game plan and in the end  the game plan heavy play action heavy passing against the wash team failed.

Having said that 2020 football is even different from 2017 football to where the stats on play action were compiled.

Play action from the shotgun in a 4 wide set is a lot different than play action with a qb under center with a FB and RB behind him. It's a different game than it was even 3 years ago not to mention how does RPO figure into play action stats and that since 2017 defenses have caught up to RPO.

Point is they don't need them to take 4 steps to be effective. 1 false step forward when the receiver is running at you is all it takes to be effective. The stats prove it to be true. I understand that it's hard to believe it but I used to argue with Manu about it constantly. He's right and the stats prove it.

That said I still like a little run game mixed in. 

11 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't against Washington and Haskins😒

Playing crappy against crappy teams happens  every year to someone. Teams that should blow someone out on opening day ends up losing all the time in the NFL. Let's reign it in a bit and see how week 2 goes.