2 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

I dont know the answer, this is my of a question....

If Russ Wilson is in the end zone(live ball) about to throw the ball to Lockett  but DK decides to karate kick someone 30 yards down field it would result in a Safety? 

No, that foul didn’t occur in his own endzone. 

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol

Eat that W

11 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I find it funny cause they mainly run walk throughs under Doug. Anyone looks fast when the defense is going half speed and cant hit. 

So you really think this is it?

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol

I guess the Lasik hasn't helped. 

7 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Is it possible that if we drafted Metcalf, McLaurin, Jefferson or any other WR that they'd be having the same success here?  Doubtful.

The offense to me is a mess.  Best thing they do is run the ball but they dont do it enough.  If they became a run first team they might be better right now.  Passing wise this team is awful.  Whether its Carson, Doug or the assistant coaches, its terrible.

That was my point the other day. Just because Deebo Samuel and Brandon aiyuk are doing really well in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan does not mean you’re going to see them thrive in Philadelphia. We have Jalen reagor who can do a lot of the same things Deebo Samuel can do and yet we continuously not run the same type of plays or creativity for him that we should be running. I urge people who have not watch the San Francisco 49ers to watch them next week after their bye (on the all 22) with Brandon aiyuk and deebo Samuel back.  just watch them specifically on how they get the ball into their hands and how creative they are with them. We are nowhere close to that and  even Jalen reagor has a skill set similar Deebo Samuel.

I give credit to the Browns because Baker Mayfield has been bad for most of the season when asked to throw the ball too many times but they figured out that they are run first team and limit what baker Mayfield can do and they can win football games. They will run it almost every week more than they throw it. Because they know their identity and they know if they throw it too much they’re not gonna have nearly as much success. Unfortunately the eagles still don’t understand they are a much better running team but they are a passing team. yet they will still continue to throw throw throw even though throwing the ball has not been good. I get it’s a passing league and passing wins championships but this team is not good enough in the vertical passing game to be ignoring the fact that Miles Sanders has been really good for much of the season when he was healthy this year

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Doug said Alshon looks quick and fast in practice...

  didn't we hear all kinds of Praise about JJAW in the offseason?  And what about Pumphrey last offseason?  

Not white on white. Automatic W

The Eagles are NOT a good running team, they have success b/c they set up the run with the pass, but until they get real guards back they can't block anyone on the second level, which is one of the keys to a good running game (the combo blocks moving DTs then the guard peels off and takes out a LB). And Sanders isn't a workhorse back, while Scott is best in a "change of pace" role.

The real problem is how bad the screen game has become, that was always a bread and butter play.

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not white on white. Automatic W

I feel like those are tie worthy not W worthy 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I feel like those are tie worthy not W worthy 

3-5-2 lessssgo

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The Eagles are NOT a good running team, they have success b/c they set up the run with the pass, but until they get real guards back they can't block anyone on the second level, which is one of the keys to a good running game (the combo blocks moving DTs then the guard peels off and takes out a LB). And Sanders isn't a workhorse back, while Scott is best in a "change of pace" role.

The real problem is how bad the screen game has become, that was always a bread and butter play.

Well I would disagree with you that they’re not a run team first right now. their run blocking over the last two games has been getting much better than what it was earlier in the season. They’ve been creating much better holes. They were very good against the Giants. I haven’t seen the pass in game Getting better as the weeks have gone on. It’s gotten worse over the last three weeks where as the running game has actually gotten better over the last three weeks. I agree with Ray didinger and Kapadia that this team is a run first team right now and where they are in the running game is way farther ahead than the passing game even if they aren’t a running team. They are still much better at running the football after the last two weeks they they are passing the football

And the screen game hasn’t exactly been great even last year they had issues.

23 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That was my point the other day. Just because Deebo Samuel and Brandon aiyuk are doing really well in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan does not mean you’re going to see them thrive in Philadelphia. We have Jalen reagor who can do a lot of the same things Deebo Samuel can do and yet we continuously not run the same type of plays or creativity for him that we should be running. I urge people who have not watch the San Francisco 49ers to watch them next week after their bye (on the all 22) with Brandon aiyuk and deebo Samuel back.  just watch them specifically on how they get the ball into their hands and how creative they are with them. We are nowhere close to that and  even Jalen reagor has a skill set similar Deebo Samuel.

I give credit to the Browns because Baker Mayfield has been bad for most of the season when asked to throw the ball too many times but they figured out that they are run first team and limit what baker Mayfield can do and they can win football games. They will run it almost every week more than they throw it. Because they know their identity and they know if they throw it too much they’re not gonna have nearly as much success. Unfortunately the eagles still don’t understand they are a much better running team but they are a passing team. yet they will still continue to throw throw throw even though throwing the ball has not been good. I get it’s a passing league and passing wins championships but this team is not good enough in the vertical passing game to be ignoring the fact that Miles Sanders has been really good for much of the season when he was healthy this year

The Titans have had success being a run first team.  SF was just in the SB as a run first team.  

I'll admit it's been tough with Sanders missing games but now that he's healthy he should be getting at least 20 carries and maybe another 5 touches in the pass game.  Howard and Scott should be getting 10-15 carries between them.  Overall we should be running 30-35 times and limiting Carson's throws while he's struggling.  

Sidney Jones burned the Eagles 3 times.

Once when they drafted him.

Once when they took Metcalf off their board because they got burnt gambling on Jones' injury.

Once when they cut him and he turned into a player.

 

Short of drafting someone who crashes the team bus with everyone in it, that's about as damaging as a draft pick can be.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

The Titans have had success being a run first team.  SF was just in the SB as a run first team.  

I'll admit it's been tough with Sanders missing games but now that he's healthy he should be getting at least 20 carries and maybe another 5 touches in the pass game.  Howard and Scott should be getting 10-15 carries between them.  Overall we should be running 30-35 times and limiting Carson's throws while he's struggling.  

The problem is is you’re gonna run into a team that can throw the ball all over the field like the Chiefs. Now last year the Colts did manage to beat the Chiefs playing ground and pound but I don’t think you are going to be able to win a championship in today’s NFL doing that. But you can have  regular season success.

I agree with you ideally would want to do that and I see it this way, if Carson Wentz wasn’t struggling this year for almost all of the games played then I’m fine if you’re gonna throw it a little more and you’re gonna get away from the running game at times. However when he struggling and the running game is actually working why are you going away from that.

and let’s just be honest with ourselves since the ravens game the passing offense has regressed every single week over those three games. Counter today that the running game overload Street weeks every single week has seemingly gotten better. So we might not be a run team because we don’t have as great of Ron walking as we’ve had in the past but I can safely say the running game and run blocking has been improving each consecutive week over the last three weeks. The past game has somehow gotten worse against the Cowboys and giants in those three games 

3 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

The Titans have had success being a run first team.  SF was just in the SB as a run first team.  

I'll admit it's been tough with Sanders missing games but now that he's healthy he should be getting at least 20 carries and maybe another 5 touches in the pass game.  Howard and Scott should be getting 10-15 carries between them.  Overall we should be running 30-35 times and limiting Carson's throws while he's struggling.  

37 is the key number. Carson should not have more then 37 attempts in a game max. Doug is funny saying he thinks hes calling a balanced game when in turn the numbers show just the opps. Then he says well it felt like I called more run plays.When Carson has to throw 40 plus times, in most cases its a loss. Problem is Doug is an ex QB and we know how they want to play the game. That along with him trying week in and week out trying to prove the media and the fans wrong is hurting this team. 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Doug said Alshon looks quick and fast in practice...

This type of stuff is when Doug goes off the rails.  He also said the offense looked explosive last week.

AR was infuriating with this stuff, but he was at least more....umm, transparent?....about his dishonesty.  He wasn't going to throw players under the bus and he was going to be a pull string in press conferences..."I need to do a better job of putting guys in position to make plays."  Frustrating, yes, but at least you knew deep down he wasn't satisfied.

To call the offense explosive, to say Peters is doing a nice job, to say that Alshon looks quick and fast....he's either insulting our intelligence or his own.  If he actually believes these things...

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

37 is the key number. Carson should not have more then 37 attempts in a game max. Doug is funny saying he thinks hes calling a balanced game when in turn the numbers show just the opps. Then he says well it felt like I called more run plays.When Carson has to throw 40 plus times, in most cases its a loss. Problem is Doug is an ex QB and we know how they want to play the game. That along with him trying week in and week out trying to prove the media and the fans wrong is hurting this team. 

I agree but I'd like to see his attempts maxed at 30.

7 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

37 is the key number. Carson should not have more then 37 attempts in a game max. Doug is funny saying he thinks hes calling a balanced game when in turn the numbers show just the opps. Then he says well it felt like I called more run plays.When Carson has to throw 40 plus times, in most cases its a loss. Problem is Doug is an ex QB and we know how they want to play the game. That along with him trying week in and week out trying to prove the media and the fans wrong is hurting this team. 

I don’t know if you could have a set number going into a game of how many pass attempts you want Carson to have. I think you have to watch the game going on and see how he looks in the game. Like against the Giants he didn’t look particularly great so why am I going away from what is working on offense which was Miles Sanders and Boston Scott who were running very well up till the end of the game. I make the giants have to stop me running the ball until they do I don’t go away from that. And when they finally do in their committed to that maybe I get some easier throws for Carson Wentz down the field

also can I say how Fing Frustrating it is when the running game is working and we are moving the ball then go to a gadget play with Jalen hurts when everyone in the world knows they’re going to run the ball. This reminds me in 2016 when we play the Cowboys and we were moving the ball down the field with ease and Doug decided to get cute with the trick play and it blew up in their face and ended a drive where could’ve won the game. That’s what we would do in 2016

 

Fans and media can't seem to understand this, but almost all NFL coaches do...

A balanced pass/run ratio is a result of success, not a cause of it.  

Offenses succeed with the pass.  The threat of a viable running game helps, but that's about it.  If your offense needs 25-30 carries per game to move the football, your offense has bigger problems.  The ratio evens out when you have success, score points, and run the ball to protect a lead for the last 15-20 minutes of the game.

 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Sidney Jones burned the Eagles 3 times.

Once when they drafted him.

Once when they took Metcalf off their board because they got burnt gambling on Jones' injury.

Once when they cut him and he turned into a player.

 

Short of drafting someone who crashes the team bus with everyone in it, that's about as damaging as a draft pick can be.

I think they went into the 2nd round hoping to land Dalvin Cook.  It would have been interesting if he had been the selection.  I mean if he was, do they add Blount? 

9 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

37 is the key number. Carson should not have more then 37 attempts in a game max. Doug is funny saying he thinks hes calling a balanced game when in turn the numbers show just the opps. Then he says well it felt like I called more run plays.When Carson has to throw 40 plus times, in most cases its a loss. Problem is Doug is an ex QB and we know how they want to play the game. That along with him trying week in and week out trying to prove the media and the fans wrong is hurting this team. 

They should have been doing what Cleveland has done with Mayfield. They’re at their best when he’s throwing 25-30 times a game and running the ball with Chubb/Hunt. The problem with that here is you can’t justify doing that with a guy you’ve committed $100 million to. But when you have statistically one of the worst quarterbacks in the league, you need to take your medicine and adjust. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

This type of stuff is when Doug goes off the rails.  He also said the offense looked explosive last week.

AR was infuriating with this stuff, but he was at least more....umm, transparent?....about his dishonesty.  He wasn't going to throw players under the bus and he was going to be a pull string in press conferences..."I need to do a better job of putting guys in position to make plays."  Frustrating, yes, but at least you knew deep down he wasn't satisfied.

To call the offense explosive, to say Peters is doing a nice job, to say that Alshon looks quick and fast....he's either insulting our intelligence or his own.  If he actually believes these things...

A simple "Alshon looks ready to go in practice" keeps him from throwing him under the bus and still isn't as ridiculous as "Alshon looks quick and fast".

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I feel like those are tie worthy not W worthy 

 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Fans and media can't seem to understand this, but almost all NFL coaches do...

A balanced pass/run ratio is a result of success, not a cause of it.  

Offenses succeed with the pass.  The threat of a viable running game helps, but that's about it.  If your offense needs 25-30 carries per game to move the football, your offense has bigger problems.  The ratio evens out when you have success, score points, and run the ball to protect a lead for the last 15-20 minutes of the game.

 

Eh, I know what you're saying, but when you have a QB who can't make a simple accurate pass consistently you need to consider running the ball more.

33 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Sidney Jones burned the Eagles 3 times.

Once when they drafted him.

Once when they took Metcalf off their board because they got burnt gambling on Jones' injury.

Once when they cut him and he turned into a player.

 

Short of drafting someone who crashes the team bus with everyone in it, that's about as damaging as a draft pick can be.

I'm not sure I'd call him a player yet. His stats are actually looking worse this year than last year. He's given up more yards, a higher completion percentage and a higher passer rating in a pretty similar amount of snaps (293 last year vs 265 so far this year).

I don't disagree otherwise though.