Ok well you can have all the #SafeSpacers

I'll take Dougie Fresh this week. 

 

8 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

forget about him winning a superbowl in 2017 because he got lucky with the older star players that fell to his lap that pushed this team to the sb win, it doesnt happen often. but to use that one lucky year to excuse him for his bad draft picks every year again, again, again and again it's a recipe for failure because it will drag this team down to the toilet like the browns, it's all about your ego, if you get rid of him after the 2020 and get an experienced gm that knows how to draft players from great college teams maybe this team will go back to the winning ways.

losing picks every year is not for recipe for success, you are going to be a bad team, open your eyes man.

Nah, If you want to be the Browns you fire your head coach and GM every 2-3 years so you are in constant state of regime and ideology change, which is right in your wheelhouse  

"Lucking into a Super Bowl” makes you sound as dumb as ESP

3 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

My impression is that Pederson was given these new flashy toys to improve the vertical passing game. He was hell bent to do so. He eschewed a gradual approach to transform the offense for an all-or-nothing approach. There is no doubt that the vertical passing game needed improvement, but there is also no doubt that the team has had some success without one. I think a better mixture of the new and the old would have been prudent.

Yes I think this is the correct take. Doug was insistent on establishing a vertical passing game, and even moreso when we got up 17-0, he likely figured the game was in the bag. Big mistake, and we'll see how he adjusts this week and moving forward. 

I think Doug does get smug and arrogant 

10 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Yes I think this is the correct take. Doug was insistent on establishing a vertical passing game, and even moreso when we got up 17-0, he likely figured the game was in the bag. Big mistake, and we'll see how he adjusts this week and moving forward. 

I doubt he thought the game was in the bag. He was trying to score more points to win the game. He’s nothing if not aggressive. 

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think Doug does get smug and arrogant 

I hear it's a common trait amongst .... 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I doubt he thought the game was in the bag. He was trying to score more points to win the game. He’s nothing if not aggressive. 

I meant more in terms of just keeping on with trying to go vertical. You can still be aggressive with a ball control offence of short, quick passes which we seemingly abandoned. 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It's fine. You can always look at what color the philly area is and figure it out from there.

That was my thinking actually lol, but I’ll confirm it in the future if it’s helpful. 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I meant more in terms of just keeping on with trying to go vertical. You can still be aggressive with a ball control offence of short, quick passes which we seemingly abandoned. 

Sure, but I think he thought it was the best way to continue scoring based on how poorly their secondary covered the deep ball.

Obviously he should have adjusted when it was clear the OL wasn’t holding up...

3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

That was my thinking actually lol, but I’ll confirm it in the future if it’s helpful. 

Can you fix the map so the game is shown in more areas? I don't like the 10 second delay on Sunday ticket.

 

Thanks 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Sure, but I think he thought it was the best way to continue scoring based on how poorly their secondary covered the deep ball.

Obviously he should have adjusted when it was clear the OL wasn’t holding up...

Agreend. 

Disagree. Why? Because in the "LONG RUN" the 2020 Eagles are going nowhere in the playoffs as a ball control offense. Now people will say well you probably would have won "the game".

Then they'll look at me like I'm nuts when I say I could give two shites about "that game", I'm concerned about a season.

Doug's on the right path. 

Yep it would've been nice and tidy and ball control and you would have ran it , and then played defense and then ran it some more. And then gotten blown out by Carolina in the NFC championship game. 

 

The way this team is "RIGHT NOW"  Zero chance in the NFL. The way Doug's trying to move this offense? The only real chance you've got.  Either they pick it up or they don't. Is what it is. There's no safe calls. 

9. Darius Slay, Philadelphia Eagles

Age: 29

Size: 6-0, 190

Speed: 4.36

The Eagles acquired Slay from the Detroit Lions and then signed him to an extension averaging $16.6 million per year, which ranks third at the position.

"He can run all day with guys, he has no conscience, no memory, he is very athletic and fast, nothing bothers him,” an evaluator said.

A former head coach said he’d place Slay a notch below Peterson. A secondary coach said he’d take Slay over Peterson at this point, which illustrates, again, that not everyone uses the same template for evaluation.

"The thing with Slay is, he gets around the ball a little more than he used to,” a defensive coordinator said. "He needed to get his ball production better and he has. He leads the league in picks among corners in the past few years (tied for the lead with 13 since 2017), and for a number of years there in Detroit, he covered the best receiver all the time. Last year, 13 for Los Angeles (Keenan Allen of the Chargers) was getting after Slay pretty good, and then Slay makes the pick at the end of the game to win it. I’m a big fan of Slay.”

Another defensive coordinator thought Slay belonged in the bottom half of the top 10 at the position because his ball skills still weren’t elite. However, this coach couldn’t necessarily name nine corners he liked better.

"Everybody shies away from him, but he can’t cover as well across the field inside,” this coordinator said. "As a mirror corner, he is better. I think the kid from New Orleans, Lattimore, and the kid that Baltimore has, Humphrey, are better than Slay, personally.”

Howie tried to repeat 2017 for a couple of years, which is understandable, that team if it stayed healthy could have won another Ring, heck, if Wentz isn't taken out by the Clowney cheap shot, Eagles might have made it back last year. When the window is open you have to be focused on the present, not the future. Though the Jeffrey deal was bad, sometimes you just have to cut a veteran loose.

Howie knows the window is closing, 10 draft picks this year, he's building up a cap war chest to buy out and move on from a lot of contracts next year when the youth movement will have to take off. But there's enough talent to stay competitive and good organizations don't deliberately tank b/c if that worked, Cleveland would have won a couple SBs by now.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Another defensive coordinator thought Slay belonged in the bottom half of the top 10 at the position because his ball skills still weren’t elite. However, this coach couldn’t necessarily name nine corners he liked better.

 

Sounds like some bloggers

57 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

forget about him winning a superbowl in 2017 because he got lucky with the older star players that fell to his lap that pushed this team to the sb win, it doesnt happen often. but to use that one lucky year to excuse him for his bad draft picks every year again, again, again and again it's a recipe for failure because it will drag this team down to the toilet like the browns, it's all about your ego, if you get rid of him after the 2020 and get an experienced gm that knows how to draft players from great college teams maybe this team will go back to the winning ways.

losing picks every year is not for recipe for success, you are going to be a bad team, open your eyes man.

Got it super bowl win is lucky, making the playoffs with injured teams is lucky. toughfighter is smarter than Doug and Howie. 

When you post your first post that proves that you are indeed a toughfighter I would like to see it

24 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

One bad season would be more productive than 3-5 mediocre seasons in a row.  Especially when you have your franchise QB in his prime.  Yes, that should be fire-able.  Unless that is the "new norm" they really meant.  

3-5 mediocre seasons?

2017: 13-3, won NFC Championship.  Won Super Bowl

2018: 9-7, won playoff game

2019: 9-7, made playoffs

 

2017: Is elite, Super Bowl Champions

2018: Good, Won a playoff game

2019: Still above average and made the playoffs

 

How is that "mediocre"?

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Got it super bowl win is lucky, making the playoffs with injured teams is lucky. toughfighter is smarter than Doug and Howie. 

When you post your first post that proves that you are indeed a toughfighter I would like to see it

Get an experienced GM that knows how to draft players from great college teams. It's all so easy.

16 hours ago, bpac55 said:

From what I've read the strength and conditioning staff has been the same for quite some time.  Only the medical staff has been replaced.  You wonder if the way they are training has anything to do with it.  Are they going about it the wrong way?

Todd Hunkele is the other guy i was thinking of that they replaced this year. So they hired a new Director of Sports Medicine/Head Athletic Trainer and a Director of Sports Performance. 

Just make them all wear masks and run around in Tom Wolf's Cow Pasture.  They'll all be safe and you can go to the Bar of ill repute with Dan Snyder and live your American Dream.

Meanwhile, I'll stay hitched to Dougie who is legitimately trying to teach a team of both young kids and vets how to win it all. 

 

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

How is that "mediocre"?

It's not, but fans have unrealistic expectations. There are Pats fans who think last year's 1st round loss was "unacceptable".

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If they were a stock, they would be a bad investment.  

Bloggers have three options to choose from on the future of this franchise since 2017 and the near future.   
If they are being honest, they would pick Arrow DOWN.  

Of course. They won the Super Bowl. It's going to go down.

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Me putting stock into what he says isn't the issue.  If I'm Herbig and I'm told by the head coach I have the job, and someone else is in for me that Sunday -- that erodes trust between player and coach.

If I am Herbig, I understand I am fighting for that starting role every time I put on my jersey and if someone else is in, I am kicking myself for not continuing to show I deserve the job.   Herbig seriously looks more fit than last year.  Last year at TC and the Combine, he had a gut sticking out that rivals mine.  This year, he still has a gut but it is tighter and there is more muscle on his arms.  He is no longer a lower round guy that fell to UDFA, praying to do enough to stick on the bottom of a roster.  Now he is an NFL player trying to keep a job and be a starter  

Look, if Sudfeld doesn’t go into every practice trying to be the best QB on the team, if Scott doesn’t go into each practice trying to be the best RB on the team, if Ward doesn’t go into each practice trying to be the best WR on the team, if Sweat doesn’t go into each practice trying to be the be DE on the team, etc., then the won’t be players in the NFL for long.   It’s not that they won’t understand their own limitations and roles, they will.   That is what makes players like James so good on STs.   If Taylor goes in being content to be a ST player (Hollins), then he was a wasted pick.  If he goes in thinking  he is going to excel on STs but he is gunning for starting LB, then he has a chance to make it in the NFL.  That is why there are 12th round picks and UDFAs in the HOF. 

I harp a lot about Wentz’s fumbles.   Until he does a Tiki to fix it, I will complain.  

Part of me wonders if they are not focusing Pryor on back up LT and that is why he isn’t playing.  But given they just moved JP from RG to LT, I don’t fully buy into that.  Rather, I wonder if Pryor let his starts last year and what the Eagles said about him being sixth man when Big V left go to his head and thought he had it made instead of keep pushing.  Kind of like Carson and his fumbles. 

Doug could be giving public support to Herbig but saying something quite different behind closed doors. 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Can you fix the map so the game is shown in more areas? I don't like the 10 second delay on Sunday ticket.

 

Thanks 

  

 

I wish I had that power.