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Just now, RLC said:

He wouldn't have played outside for us. 

Doesnt matter where he plays. As I said before the draft, it didnt matter if we took a X, Z, Slot etc. As long as the player was a good route runner and had good hands is all I cared about. We needed every rec position. Instead we took the project. Well heres looking at 2 years down the line..........hopefully. 

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4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lane and Peters were getting beat pretty badly

I've been playing with this simulator

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Brooks can't seem to stay healthy. Lane was injured before the season and just kept getting more injured

I don't think they can move either but whoever the GM is for this next draft should look into the future RT and RG

They can't keep compounding wasteful investments though.  Lane is untradeable for 3 years.  We really are not in a position to draft someone to be a RT 4 years from now.

RG...I think Brooks is likely gone after 2021, so 1 year isn't too long to ride the pine for a rookie.  But a 1st or 2nd round guard?  They should be playing immediately.  

 

My hope for the future is LT Dillard, RT Mailata, but that's mostly wishful thinking.  Mailata has really struggled lately and the coaches now refuse to use him.  Dillard's question marks are already well-discussed.  It just would be nice to have at least a few key positions with solutions moving forward.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Reagor was the type of WR we needed, Jefferson was far, far from it.  

There are massive Reagor-type busts and Jefferson-type HOF'ers.

But the last thing this team is needed was another highly productive collegiate WR with unremarkable speed who did most of his NCAA work underneath.  We had seen that movie too many damn times.

 

Except, they aren't using him in that role, are they? 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Reagor was the type of WR we needed, Jefferson was far, far from it.  

There are massive Reagor-type busts and Jefferson-type HOF'ers.

But the last thing this team is needed was another highly productive collegiate WR with unremarkable speed who did most of his NCAA work underneath.  We had seen that movie too many damn times.

 

This kind of desperate "we need this" stance was a mistake. It forces your hand in the draft and eliminates other prospects. You don't force your need into your first round draft pick. That's how you stack bad drafts. Today, you need a fast WR. Tomorrow, who knows what you'll need.

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't want the coach that tells Lurie that Wentz is just a franchise QB who needs better coaching, yet we also have enough at WR.  

 

I’d rather have more at OL than WR. Is the horse dead yet ? 🤛🤛🤛

There’s nothing wrong with Reagor. He’s going to be fine. We’re just a realllllly bad offense. Wentz and Doug are bad. 

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

He wouldn't have played outside for us. 

That’s silly based on how he has played in Minnesota, which also plays a lot of 12. Something like 70 percent of his snaps have been outside. 

Don’t dig your heels in. He’s been great. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Except, they aren't using him in that role, are they? 

I can't really pretend to be certain without looking at the all-22, which I don't have time for.

Wentz has heaved a couple prayers downfield to Reagor in tight coverage.  Today's mud was also no place to judge a player's speed, although I'm not sure Reagor has looked quite as fast and explosive as advertised on a few routes in the past.  I don't think he accelerated even like a 40 year old Desean when we saw them running routes together weeks ago.

As your boy Jefferson is showing, part of getting open deep comes from deep speed, part comes from footwork in the route.  I am a harsh critic of Reagor because I still have very high expectations for him (and still like the pick), but one criticism of him that, IMO, is not premature.....his routes really aren't that good.  He's only shaking people with pure linear speed when he does get open.  He's got a long way to go to run the full route tree.  

Jefferson is going into a team with a clearly defined role. Do we know what Reagor's role is?  Other than being there for a snaps?

5 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

This kind of desperate "we need this" stance was a mistake. It forces your hand in the draft and eliminates other prospects. You don't force your need into your first round draft pick. That's how you stack bad drafts. Today, you need a fast WR. Tomorrow, who knows what you'll need.

Of course it was.  But they had the worst WRs in the NFL last year and the slowest offense in the NFL....and then went into the draft having made 0 additions to the position or to the offense.

Like I said, they "had" to draft Reagor, a guy who no one really projected as a top 21 prospect.  

Forget Jefferson for a second.  Pretend the BPA was a DE and they took him.  Imagine this offense without Reagor, without Jefferson, without any of the rookie WRs that are doing well.

Howie went into the draft knowing exactly which position he needed to pick to salvage something from the 2020 offense.  It was horribly thought out.

Do we want Dallas to win or lose? I know we hate Dallas and Dallas sucks but do we want them to have a better draft pick?

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Jefferson is going into a team with a clearly defined role. Do we know what Reagor's role is?  Other than being there for a snaps?

I don't think anyone on this offense besides Kelce knows what their role is.

Just now, goeagles5039 said:

Do we want Dallas to win or lose?

Definite W.

8 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

There’s nothing wrong with Reagor. He’s going to be fine. We’re just a realllllly bad offense. Wentz and Doug are bad. 

There is a long and terrifying list of Eagles draft picks that the blog said would be fine.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Howie, who is all but dead to me as a GM, at least saw the error in his ways and tried to get guys who can separate on offense.

The coach still uses 12 personnel and chooses to use Alshon Jeffery, 0 rec through 2 games, over the younger WRs who move well....still designs plays at the LOS for Ward.

Sometimes it feels like Doug wants guys who can only make congested, contested plays.

Sometimes it feels like Doug doesn't have a clue as to which players on our own team are better than the others 

Still wanna know why we are running WR screens for Ward and not Reagor.

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Reagor was the type of WR we needed, Jefferson was far, far from it.  

There are massive Reagor-type busts and Jefferson-type HOF'ers.

But the last thing this team needed was another highly productive collegiate WR with unremarkable speed who did most of his NCAA work underneath.  We had seen that movie too many damn times.

 

Just admit you were wrong. It happens

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Of course it was.  But they had the worst WRs in the NFL last year and the slowest offense in the NFL....and then went into the draft having made 0 additions to the position or to the offense.

Like I said, they "had" to draft Reagor, a guy who no one really projected as a top 21 prospect.  

Forget Jefferson for a second.  Pretend the BPA was a DE and they took him.  Imagine this offense without Reagor, without Jefferson, without any of the rookie WRs that are doing well.

Howie went into the draft knowing exactly which position he needed to pick to salvage something from the 2020 offense.  It was horribly thought out.

They should have signed a free agent, but at that time they were obsessed with the idea of Wentz carrying the practice squadders down the stretch against the NFC Least and wanted only young guys to gel with Wentz. Bizarre. 

No reason why Doug can’t use the same logic for Wentz here as far as benching goes. If Hurts looks like trash, you give him his job back. 
 

 

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I can't really pretend to be certain without looking at the all-22, which I don't have time for.

Wentz has heaved a couple prayers downfield to Reagor in tight coverage.  Today's mud was also no place to judge a player's speed, although I'm not sure Reagor has looked quite as fast and explosive as advertised on a few routes in the past.  I don't think he accelerated even like a 40 year old Desean when we saw them running routes together weeks ago.

As your boy Jefferson is showing, part of getting open deep comes from deep speed, part comes from footwork in the route.  I am a harsh critic of Reagor because I still have very high expectations for him (and still like the pick), but one criticism of him that, IMO, is not premature.....his routes really aren't that good.  He's only shaking people with pure linear speed when he does get open.  He's got a long way to go to run the full route tree.  

Yes, you can.  He should be getting the ball on the WR screens, not Ward.  He should be getting some end arounds, jet sweeps, etc.  And he's not.  He should be used on punt returns, and he's not.  

7 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Jefferson is going into a team with a clearly defined role. Do we know what Reagor's role is?  Other than being there for a snaps?

Decoy for Greg Ward screens

1 minute ago, greend said:

Sometimes it feels like Doug doesn't have a clue as to which players on our own team are better than the others 

In Doug's defense...and nobody wants Peters benched and off the team with youngsters getting a shot more than me...he's trying to save his job and Mailata looked horrible too.  Familiarity there carried Peters through.  

Alshon?  Again, I'm guessing he's coaching scared.  As a fan, I want the youngsters in.  But Doug can probably see that Fulgham is a shell of what we hyped him up to be, very similar player to Alshon, who is more proven...and he's falling into that comfort zone.

I don't agree with it, but he's simply coaching scared.  He doesn't trust the players, doesn't trust the work that his assistants put in with the youngsters, and is going back to his comfortable blanket of vets who know the plays and have performed in the past.

Doug is better than this and the players are better than this.  But when you achieve this level of downward momentum, everything falls apart.

4 minutes ago, goeagles5039 said:

Still wanna know why we are running WR screens for Ward and not Reagor.

I'll answer this one more time. Doug is stupid

5 minutes ago, goeagles5039 said:

Still wanna know why we are running WR screens for award and not Reagor.

That's an excellent question?

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