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2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes, you can.  He should be getting the ball on the WR screens, not Ward.  He should be getting some end arounds, jet sweeps, etc.  And he's not.  He should be used on punt returns, and he's not.  

I disagree with the punt returns.  Reagor is very clearly uncomfortable on punt returns...and is also clearly still raw in his routes.  When he is a complete WR, then I will be happy to throw another task at him that makes him uncomfortable.  Until then, he needs to focus on getting one thing, the more important thing, right at a time.

As far as the screens to Ward...those are inexplicable, indefensible.  I just posted a defense of some of Doug's questionable personnel decisions, but Ward's involvement in the offense is not one of them.  If you want to park him around the sticks in zone coverage, fine.  Forcing him the ball, by design, on plays at the LOS where you ask someone to be a playmaker...that's just laughable.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

In Doug's defense...and nobody wants Peters benched and off the team with youngsters getting a shot more than me...he's trying to save his job and Mailata looked horrible too.  Familiarity there carried Peters through.  

Alshon?  Again, I'm guessing he's coaching scared.  As a fan, I want the youngsters in.  But Doug can probably see that Fulgham is a shell of what we hyped him up to be, very similar player to Alshon, who is more proven...and he's falling into that comfort zone.

I don't agree with it, but he's simply coaching scared.  He doesn't trust the players, doesn't trust the work that his assistants put in with the youngsters, and is going back to his comfortable blanket of vets who know the plays and have performed in the past.

Doug is better than this and the players are better than this.  But when you achieve this level of downward momentum, everything falls apart.

You just gave me the reason why he has no clue. That doesn't defend him. Alshon has done nothing for 2 years. Nothing

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Sometimes it feels like Doug doesn't have a clue as to which players on our own team are better than the others 

doug is either playing vets out of loyalty or their cap hit.  there is NO REASON to move on from unsuccessful guys at this point in the season.  is he really trying to make the post season knowing how awful we have been?

a smart coach would see the problems and adjust the game plan to include new guys.  just because jeffrey and peters are "off ir" does not mean put them on the field and continue to put them on the field when they have been @$$ and the guys playing in their stint have been doing okay.  this also includes benching wentz.  you are not admitting the season is "over" by benching wentz.  you are seeing if there is a better option cause wentz has not been the guy.

but, dough has hitched his wagon to "his guys".  he will ride them out and knee-cap the young guys along the way to prove his point.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Dallas is gonna win the division.

It will probably come down to the week 17 game, Giants vs Cowboys.

20 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Jefferson is going into a team with a clearly defined role. Do we know what Reagor's role is?  Other than being there for a snaps?

The issue there is... coaching.  This whole offense is rudderless.  So, would Jefferson have the same impact here as he is with Minnesota?  Of course not.  My only point with Jefferson is... he was called a slot only by a ton of people.  I said he wasn't.  I believe I've been proven correct in that.  Whether or not Jefferson should have been selected here over Reagor is a different story entirely.  I don't think Jefferson here would be anywhere near what he's been there.  He wouldn't fix the problems this team has.  This coaching staff is lost... just bumbling around, no cohesion, no perceivable plan, no identity.  

3 minutes ago, metal said:

With the Dallas win there is now a 3-way tie for 2nd place in the division.

I think of it more as a 3-way tie for last place with the Eagles being a half game out.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Dallas is gonna win the division.

Good. 

5 minutes ago, greend said:

You just gave me the reason why he has no clue. That doesn't defend him. Alshon has done nothing for 2 years. Nothing

I'm trying to rationalize, not defend him.

People tend to make illogical, risk-averse decisions when they are in danger of public humiliation and a pink slip.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I disagree with the punt returns.  Reagor is very clearly uncomfortable on punt returns...and is also clearly still raw in his routes.  When he is a complete WR, then I will be happy to throw another task at him that makes him uncomfortable.  Until then, he needs to focus on getting one thing, the more important thing, right at a time.

As far as the screens to Ward...those are inexplicable, indefensible.  I just posted a defense of some of Doug's questionable personnel decisions, but Ward's involvement in the offense is not one of them.  If you want to park him around the sticks in zone coverage, fine.  Forcing him the ball, by design, on plays at the LOS where you ask someone to be a playmaker...that's just laughable.

He's uncomfortable because they aren't working him there.  He did it in college.  He did it well in college.  But, when you don't practice it a lot, you won't get better at it.   But, I'd have STARTED him at punt returner as his primary role, and worked him in slowly behind Desean.  We all know he'd get some time when Desean got hurt.  But, his role in this offense is Desean's, at Z, not at X... which is where he started.  Or... start him in the slot on offense.   But, it seems to me that they didn't have a long term plan, everything is always short term.  And that's a major failure.     Ward shouldn't be on the field for any punts from now on.  I'd rather call Brian Mitchell back to fair catch the ball.  Ward is killing this team with his over-usage on offense (not his fault, they are asking him to do something he can't) and his inability to field punts the way he should (which IS his fault... his judgement is awful out there). 

We’re still in first. So obviously everything is fine. 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'm trying to rationalize, not defend him.

People tend to make illogical, risk-averse decisions when they are in danger of public humiliation and a pink slip.

And it very well might actually contribute to his pink slip

12 minutes ago, Shocker54 said:

Well dayza ofitly playin wors bal in divdon. firs place gon by thurs. sumjawn gettin win fo. SMDH

How do I ignore/block you?

 

your schtick sucks

Glad the Cowboys won. It's the hope that will kill them

1 minute ago, no1birdsfan said:

How do I ignore/block you?

 

your schtick sucks

On a computer, hover mouse over his name...

Click Ignore User.

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6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He's uncomfortable because they aren't working him there.  He did it in college.  He did it well in college.  But, when you don't practice it a lot, you won't get better at it.   But, I'd have STARTED him at punt returner as his primary role, and worked him in slowly behind Desean.  We all know he'd get some time when Desean got hurt.  But, his role in this offense is Desean's, at Z, not at X... which is where he started.  Or... start him in the slot on offense.   But, it seems to me that they didn't have a long term plan, everything is always short term.  And that's a major failure.     Ward shouldn't be on the field for any punts from now on.  I'd rather call Brian Mitchell back to fair catch the ball.  Ward is killing this team with his over-usage on offense (not his fault, they are asking him to do something he can't) and his inability to field punts the way he should (which IS his fault... his judgement is awful out there). 

I hoped to see Reagor at X.  He has a really stout frame that suggested he could be a high volume WR (unlike Desean/Pinkston/Wallace/Torrey Smith/Hightower)...and the raw quicks to suggest he could run a complete route tree with separation at all levels.  I felt there was more upside for him as an X.

But watching him here...his routes have a long way to go.  Z is where he belongs, for now at least. I blame the coaches for not seeing this earlier.

The speed with Reagor at X, Desean at Z would have been very dangerous...but Desean predictably got hurt instantly and Reagor isn't really ready to be anything more than a run deep and catch it guy right now...I don't think the slot is going to be any kinder to him either.  

 

3 minutes ago, no1birdsfan said:

How do I ignore/block you?

 

your schtick sucks

It won't help because for whatever reason other window lickers like to quote him and talk in the same idiotic manner back. Maybe I'll ignore them all.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

It won't help because for whatever reason other window lickers like to quote him and talk in the same idiotic manner back. Maybe I'll ignore them all.

I think that's a good plan.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

It won't help because for whatever reason other window lickers like to quote him and talk in the same idiotic manner back. Maybe I'll ignore them all.

Y u b hatin dawg? 

14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I disagree with the punt returns.  Reagor is very clearly uncomfortable on punt returns...and is also clearly still raw in his routes.  When he is a complete WR, then I will be happy to throw another task at him that makes him uncomfortable.  Until then, he needs to focus on getting one thing, the more important thing, right at a time.

As far as the screens to Ward...those are inexplicable, indefensible.  I just posted a defense of some of Doug's questionable personnel decisions, but Ward's involvement in the offense is not one of them.  If you want to park him around the sticks in zone coverage, fine.  Forcing him the ball, by design, on plays at the LOS where you ask someone to be a playmaker...that's just laughable.

You think Ward does look comfortable?

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I hoped to see Reagor at X.  He has a really stout frame that suggested he could be a high volume WR (unlike Desean/Pinkston/Wallace/Torrey Smith/Hightower)...and the raw quicks to suggest he could run a complete route tree with separation at all levels.  I felt there was more upside for him as an X.

But watching him here...his routes have a long way to go.  Z is where he belongs, for now at least. I blame the coaches for not seeing earlier.

The speed with Reagor at X, Desean at Z would have been very dangerous...but Desean predictably got hurt instantly and Reagor isn't really ready to be anything more than a run deep and catch it guy right now...I don't think the slot is going to be any kinder to him either.  

 

You of all people should have known not to count on that.

I don’t even know what to say about this team right now. It’s like they’re all playing not to lose. Coaches and players. The offense totally fell apart mentally after that fumble. 

Just now, greend said:

You think Ward does look comfortable?

I don't really about production on punt returns in this lost season.  I'm more concerned about Reagor's development.  I wanted him to be an advanced, #1 WR running all the routes at X.  He needs a lot of schooling for that.  So forcing him to learn something else he's uncomfortable with is just a load that I don't think is worth strapping on to him.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You of all people should have known not to count on that.

And I never did.  I was saying from day 1 that Desean would likely be useless this year.

I was hoping Reagor could settle in at X and Hightower/Watkins could fill in for Desean at Z while he was injured.  

Does anyone get fired yet? 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

And I never did.  I was saying from day 1 that Desean would likely be useless this year.

I was hoping Reagor could settle in at X and Hightower/Watkins could fill in for Desean at Z while he was injured.  

Exactly, so the idea of them used together was never really likely.  So, you put Reagor at Z and let him get worked in slower.