5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

As far as benching Wentz goes...the likelihood is that he will start against the Seahawks.  If the Eagles are behind at halftime and Wentz continues to struggle, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Hurts come in.  

I'll be very surprised if that happens. Doug made it pretty clear he doesn't have the authority to bench Wentz so I'm not expecting any change at QB.

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Nelly looked great with Reich, and looks fine now, but the 2 years with Doug only he looked like poop

Begged for WR help, We got Golden Tate, coaches say they dont know how to use him

JJAW/Mack Hollins "I dont know no my role in this offense". 

 

I have no problem getting rid of the coaching staff, but I want a new GM to make the call on that.

For me, it's real simple, STEP 1: Howie must go.

I don't envision Lurie doing it though, so decades of poor to mediocre talent being touted as top shelf will continue, and the Eagles will win nothing meaningful moving forward. 

Just now, metal said:

I'll be very surprised if that happens. Doug made it pretty clear he doesn't have the authority to bench Wentz so I'm not expecting any change at QB.

There's a difference between naming a new starter during the week vs. pulling a starter mid-game.  Huge difference.  

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

We're not playing younger guys now, which is infuriating. Every Jason Peters snap over Mailata is an insult.

I think you need to shut down Lane for the season too and let Driscoll go through some growing pains.  His future most likely isn't at RT but we need to prepare for life without Lane.  They need to sell as high as possible on him.

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

There's a difference between naming a new starter during the week vs. pulling a starter mid-game.  Huge difference.  

Maybe. I don't expect either move to happen regardless.

26 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Anyone find it weird that the 1st drive was scripted, a good pass / run balance, Carson looked good, and then every drive after that was a sh!t show

Maybe he should script the first 75 plays.

47 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The timing of that jump was so incredibly bad.  What in the world was he looking at?  Then add in the fact that his jump got him maybe 6" off the ground.  Horrible all around.

I'm 58 years old and substantially shorter than him and I can get more air than that

8 minutes ago, metal said:

I'll be very surprised if that happens. Doug made it pretty clear he doesn't have the authority to bench Wentz so I'm not expecting any change at QB.

Even if that's true it doesn't explain why they haven't used Hurts more. Why not give him a series or 2 instead of a single play here or there? His usage makes zero sense for a second round pick they said at draft time he could be their Taysom Hill type player.

Colin Cowherd made a good point.  He said the Eagles are like a person that wins the lottery then doesn't know how to handle it and goes broke.

They erected statues, Doug wrote a book, called winning "the new normal," and they held on to aging players from the SB team too long.  They have continually been too cocky and believing their own hype.  They keep talking about fighting and believing in themselves and getting this thing right.  But they don't change anything from week to week.

It's understandable that they thought they didn't need many changes, they won a playoff game in 2018 instead of having a SB hangover that many people expected.  But they didn't stay hungry and focused, and they didn't plan to replace the roster enough, didn't draft well enough and weren't able to make the same free agency moves that helped them.

This year they need to admit it's over and they need to rebuild and start over.  2017 was awesome.  But it was not the "normal."  

16 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I think(even right now) wentz is better than Baker

But... Stefanski had roll outs. Stefanski stuck with the run. Stefansnki had original plays, different plays, creative plays. 

 

As much as I dislike his stupid haircut and that he chest bumps players routinely I think Sean McVay does a really good job. Game plan changes week to week, rollouts, WR runs, straight old fashioned power running, etc... the’ll have a game plan for Tampa tonight. Don’t know if it’ll work but he won’t go down with the same old boring stuff tonight. 
Made us look really bad week 2 with our generic defense.

Why the Hell can’t we make any adjustments? Watching the KC/Vegas game last night and it’s like a completely different sport than watching us.

4 minutes ago, greend said:

I'm 58 years old and substantially shorter than him and I can get more air than that

I’ll take that bet 😆

Im all for a youth takeover

They may even surprise us and play well.  Look at the Cowboys who told the entire world the season was over.  All of a sudden they have some juice again.

20 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

As far as benching Wentz goes...the likelihood is that he will start against the Seahawks.  If the Eagles are behind at halftime and Wentz continues to struggle, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Hurts come in.  

I would be utterly shocked quite honestly.

10 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Maybe he should script the first 75 plays.

Or it might be time for someone else to script the first 75 plays.

The Wentz hate is ridiculous in here. We're not a QB away from winning games

10 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Let’s just lose out so we don’t have to worry about any of the nonsense. A top 5 pick would give us something to look forward to.

The sad thing is if we fire Howie, would we even attract a decent candidate? Our franchise QB is a mess. We have little young talent. Our salary cap is in shambles. 

This is a bad job. 

Some of us haven't given up on Wentz. He has the talent to get right again. We have a new speedster. We have a good CB in Slay. Problem will definitely be the bad contracts and that cap though. There's a ton of holes to fix. Maybe a GM who feels he wants to show that he can fix a team

10 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think there’s a higher percentage chance that the Eagles lose out then they win the division. I don’t see them winning both the Washington game and the Dallas game. 

I don’t think they’re gonna fire howie. I also don’t think doug is gonna get fired. But I do think 2021 is gonna be a very telling year with both of their futures. But I kind of am in agreement with banner not that I wouldn’t fire howor or doug but I don’t think they’re gonna do it. 

I think it’s a bad job if you do not believe in Carson Wentz or in Jalen hurts. If you do then I think it’s a much better opportunity than what we would give it credit for even with the negatives. Now next year might be a disaster just because of the cap and what they’ve done. Granted if i am GM and I’m coming in Seeing what happen with this offense I want my own head coach that’s creative but I feel can work with making one of those to my franchise

 

If Howie isn't gone then I'll be calling for Lurie to sell the team. It's that bad IMO

2 hours ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

You have no grasp of how an offense works.  No offense runs when your QB is being pummeled from horrific line play.  Compound that with mediocre skill position talent (less Sanders and Goedert) and questionable play calling and a problem starts to happen.  Honestly, its no wonder that all of his deficiencies are rising to the top, given what he deals with play after play.

You want someone to blame...start with Doug and then progress on up to Howie. 

Now, move on.

No Oline blocking messes up the QB that messes up the throw that messes up the catch. Add on a coach that doesn't help his QB when the Oline can't block

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kind of sucks Matt ruhle left Baylor last year. I loved him as a coaching prospect. Even though Carolina is 4-7 he’s done an excellent job with that team. Besides the 2 tampa bay games  they been in every game without their best offensive weapon for the majority of the season. Nearly beat the chiefs and saints. 

im guessing joe Brady would be up there. Lurie would want some one innovative and creative. I’m guessing he looks around the nfl and sees the cardinals, rams, niners, panthers and how they incorporate their players and the creativity they use and wants that. He knows what wins in this league. 

However how ridiculous is it At the end of last year the Eagles fired Groh and needed to hire an offensive coordinators and yet manage to not hire an offensive coordinator and running it the way that they are. I don’t know, I thought that was bizarre from the beginning and I feel like that was the Eagles trying to be the smartest person in the room instead of just doing what you needed to do

Part of me thinks the OC committee is Howie because it's a "smartest person in the room" kind of move but Doug has also had a huge ego since the SB. I think Doug is just in way over his head. They have soo many problems and it's all being ignored

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Should have given the ball to Sanders more. Amazing how we keep saying that yet he keeps going away from the run. Fulgham and Reagor had a ton of snaps and not many targets

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The first order of business really needs to be for them to figure out what loophole can free themselves of every single non rookie contract on the team.

 

Was it the Texans that traded draft picks to a team to take on a bad contract? Can teams still do that? We need those picks badly though

1 hour ago, greend said:

Sorry but Doug is part of the issue and not a solution at this point. On a side note I have to wonder what happens in meetings when they are breaking down film. Do the coaches actually talk to these players about how they are playing? Is there ever any danger of the coaches saying "you know what player x this play is unacceptable and you are not going to start next week"? I mean the whole damn team every week at almost every position conspires to do just enough bad stuff to lose us games. Carson double clutches on open receivers, fumbles and throws picks, Sanders fumbles during a very promising drive, Alshon won't try and high point a ball, ward doesn't sit down in a zone and every week screws up a decision on a punt return, oline misses blocks. Cornerbacks can't cover. About the only part of this team that plays well is the d line but they constantly jump off sides.

Doug wants to be friends with his players more than the HC.

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Peters was dreadful, the worst game I've ever seen him play. Seumalo was terrific. Kelce was gritty. Pryor still doesn't move his feet, and Driscoll was better than Lane. In this last case it was clearly injury-related.

There is no excuse for not putting Mailata back in at one of the tackle slots, preferably at LT.

Do you think the only reason Peters is still at LT is because of the raise?

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Im all for a youth takeover

They may even surprise us and play well.  Look at the Cowboys who told the entire world the season was over.  All of a sudden they have some juice again.

Dallas has weapons. They have no QB and I think their line isn't good. Plus their defense wasn't fixed. It'll be interesting what they do at QB

Could they trade a few weapons and some picks to move up and grab Trevor? I think this place would be on suicide watch

It'd be a Jets thing to do to give away the #1 lol

I think Peters is still at L.T. because Doug is either blind or stupid.

7 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I’ll take that bet 😆

under my feet I mean. Hell he could stand flat footed and get higher just by raising his hands

I'm not going back 50 pages in here so I'm sure you've discussed this at length but I'll throw my hat in the ring.  I'm a long time Peters big fan but his time at LT is over.  He should not be taking another snap at LT (unless there is on one else).  He might be used at one of the Guard positions perhaps or better yet just have him retire.

4 minutes ago, greend said:

I think Peters is still at L.T. because Doug is either blind or stupid.

Is it Doug or Stoutland?

1 minute ago, greend said:

under my feet I mean. Hell he could stand flat footed and get higher just by raising his hands

😆

Im right there with ya man, turned 50 last year. Was screwing around with my dog a couple months ago and decided to jump flat footed into the back of my pickup truck (tailgate down) ... You know because he can do it ... figured no problem ... so needless to say that didn’t go as well as planned ... welts and bruises on both shins 😂😂

The’ll be no more jumping. 

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Do you think the only reason Peters is still at LT is because of the raise?

I don't know and I don't care to speculate. I do think Doug goes too long with the vets for what amounts to sentimentality. That said, Peters was dreadful. Three sacks, three tackles for loss, and three QB hits. No excuse to run him out there next week.

12 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

The Wentz hate is ridiculous in here. We're not a QB away from winning games

 

There's one way to find out.  And if we start winning games with Hurts, then the rest of your points are moot.

 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

There's one way to find out.  And if we start winning games with Hurts, then the rest of your points are moot.

 

You realize we likely have only Issac healthy on Oline right? We probably don't even have Kelce anymore. What in the hell makes you think we're a QB away from winning games when we don't even have half of the starters playing?? Even if we have Kelce still with a cast on his arm we only have 2/5 players

It's amazing the blind hate you people have

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think Wentz is a bad QB yes. So hang on... What's the alternative here? Let him continue to play just because he accounts for 25% of the cap? Let him continue to suck and hurt the team?

I think realistically we're stuck with him for 21. In that case, get rid of Doug and get a QB guru in the offseason to work with him. If he doesn't improve, can his ass for sure.

Of course the central problem is that there are soooo many issues with this team right now, from injuries to drafting to coaching staff.