Joe Brady is legit. Would probably rank him #1 right now.

43 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I forgot about Arthur Smith. 

I don’t think enough people are thinking about the possibility of what happens if Michigan moves on from Harbaugh. 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Joe Brady is legit. Would probably rank him #1 right now.

I wanted him really bad as an OC for this year. Anyone who watched LSU’s offense last year knew he was legit. 

44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Surprised joe Brady isn’t up there. Done a great job this year considering he has bridgewater as his QB and mccaffrey has missed all but 3 games. 

 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Well i don’t think they fire doug this offseason so 2022 is a possibility if the offense looks like this again 

A name to consider for OC... 
 

Matt Canada - QB coach for the Steelers 

3 hours ago, greend said:

And if the whole offense is performing badly you fire the coach. That's the way it's been for 100 years. You want to pin it on 1 player, wake up it's not 1 player. If the head coach says to me "we want to bench Carson and see if he's the problem" at that exact point in time I know what the problem is and it's not the quarterback. The coach better damn well know what the problem is not start benching players left and right just to "see if it's them". These are my last words on this subject with you if you can't get the concept of what I'm saying so be it. Moving on

We will find out if it's the the entire offense, the coaches, the scheme or the QB once Wentz is benched and we see what this offense looks like with a different QB,  

3 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

I don’t know who you have doing your research for you, but it’s junk science.  The Eagles have rarely been so far behind in games over the last four years that they’ve had to abandon the run game — they’ve simply chosen to.

I'm not getting into this because it's not really debatable.  We've had this conversation in this blog for the better part of 5 years and every-single-time it's been proven that the vast majority of the time the Eagles have a good run/pass balance it's because they are/were ahead.  When they pass more it's usually because they are/were behind. (Or the game is/was within a score). 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

I forgot about Arthur Smith. 

On the surface, I want Bieniemy.

AR has built the NFL's prototypical offense.  He was fatally flawed, but way ahead of his time when he was here.  Sign me up for that blueprint with his right hand.

BUT...that's the mistake all owners make.  Just hire any Belichick assistant.  Just hire anyone who has been compared to Sean Mcvay.  Just hire anyone who has coached Peyton Manning.  All of those mistakes have been made several times over.

I want a coach who graduated from AR's Harvard School of Offense...but they need to be sure he is his own man who can adapt and think on his own, under new circumstances.  And I have absolutely no idea if that applies to Bieniemy. 

One other issue...the blog has dismissed this before...but so much of these jobs are backroom conversations and handshakes.  Firing one AR disciple to hire another will be tricky.

56 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

No top coaching candidate will come here and hitch his wagon to Carson Wentz.  Will not happen.  If we fire Doug, we'll be scrounging the depths of the candidate pool.

Lol man, get em 

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Pretty sure Stout doesn't have the final say about who plays.

Hell, maybe Doug doesn't either.

If Duce is in charge of the RB rotation, then Stoutland would have to be in charge of the OL rotation.  If its anything else, the structure is desperately broken.

58 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

No top coaching candidate will come here and hitch his wagon to Carson Wentz.  Will not happen.  If we fire Doug, we'll be scrounging the depths of the candidate pool.

What a load of s___.

One other thing about a new coach...

If you fire Doug to "salvage" Wentz, this does not reset the clock on Wentz.  No matter how you want to split up the blame pie between Doug/Wentz....in 2021, Carson is still going to be a $32m QB who turns 29 next season with 0 playoff wins and was the worst starting QB in the NFL in 2020.

The new coach is a shot in the dark at a miracle that Wentz magically turns into a new QB.  Don't hold your breath on that and anticipate the upcoming search for a franchise QB.

Howie/Lurie/the peanut gallery better not be saying oh, Wentz needs 2-3 years with the new HC.  That's how one QB problem kills 2 coaches.  

Whoever does survive this offseason...Wentz, Doug, Howie, all 3...they get ONE year to turn it around.   

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

On the surface, I want Bieniemy.

AR has built the NFL's prototypical offense.  He was fatally flawed, but way ahead of his time when he was here.  Sign me up for that blueprint with his right hand.

BUT...that's the mistake all owners make.  Just hire any Belichick assistant.  Just hire anyone who has been compared to Sean Mcvay.  Just hire anyone who has coached Peyton Manning.  All of those mistakes have been made several times over.

I want a coach who graduated from AR's Harvard School of Offense...but they need to be sure he is his own man who can adapt and think on his own, under new circumstances.  And I have absolutely no idea if that applies to Bieniemy. 

One other issue...the blog has dismissed this before...but so much of these jobs are backroom conversations and handshakes.  Firing one AR disciple to hire another will be tricky.

We did hire that guy...  his name was Doug Pederson.   

 

 

I want to get away from the Andy tree this time around.  Something truly fresh would be nice, but not a dope like Chip Kelly.  
My list is Joe Brady and Graham Harrell, as I said earlier.  Young, innovative, spread concepts.  

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

One other thing about a new coach...

If you fire Doug to "salvage" Wentz, this does not reset the clock on Wentz.  No matter how you want to split up the blame pie between Doug/Wentz....in 2021, Carson is still going to be a $32m QB who turns 29 next season with 0 playoff wins and was the worst starting QB in the NFL in 2020.

The new coach is a shot in the dark at a miracle that Wentz magically turns into a new QB.  Don't hold your breath on that and anticipate the upcoming search for a franchise QB.

Howie/Lurie/the peanut gallery better not be saying oh, Wentz needs 2-3 years with the new HC.  That's how one QB problem kills 2 coaches.  

Whoever does survive this offseason...Wentz, Doug, Howie, all 3...they get ONE year to turn it around.   

Of course not, but you get until he's 'movable' to decide if he can be salvaged.  If not, it does (imo) reset the clock on the HC hired... Wentz is here through 2021, no matter what.  The salary cap dictates that.  He could be moved before 2022, but no sooner.   So, Wentz gets 1 year... the question is if he gets two if he shows any promise in year 1 under the new HC.

 

 

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

What a load of s___.

 

1 hour ago, Arsenal79 said:

No top coaching candidate will come here and hitch his wagon to Carson Wentz.  Will not happen.  If we fire Doug, we'll be scrounging the depths of the candidate pool.

I'm tired of bashing Wentz.  I really like the guy.  I feel for him right now.  I want him to succeed in the worst way.

But Casey@Bat is right.  No coach in his right mind is going to hitch his wagon to Wentz.  Does that mean they'd never come here?  No.  But they'd need to have the balls to tell Lurie that their master plan is not solely to fix Wentz.  If they do, great.  But maybe it can't be done.  And if Lurie can't accept that from a coach and will only consider the snake oil salesman interviewee who promises to fix Wentz, then Lurie is part of the problem.

The quick easy fix with Wentz may not be possible and I don't want any new HC who puts all his eggs in that basket.  

Mike Vick and his enticing talent have assassinated more HC's than any QB in NFL history.  Sometimes you need to know when to move on.  I'm not saying we are there with Wentz, but a new HC better not be banking entirely on that.

If we retained Doug and decided to clean house with his assistants, what kind of candidates would we attract? Doug would be on the hot seat entering 2021, and what good candidate would want to join for what could be a one and done scenario?

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

 

I'm tired of bashing Wentz.  I really like the guy.  I feel for him right now.  I want him to succeed in the worst way.

But Casey@Bat is right.  No coach in his right mind is going to hitch his wagon to Wentz.  Does that mean they'd never come here?  No.  But they'd need to have the balls to tell Lurie that their master plan is not solely to fix Wentz.  If they do, great.  But maybe it can't be done.  And if Lurie can't accept that from a coach and will only consider the snake oil salesman interviewee who promises to fix Wentz, then Lurie is part of the problem.

The quick easy fix with Wentz may not be possible and I don't want any new HC who puts all his eggs in that basket.  

Mike Vick and his enticing talent have assassinated more HC's than any QB in NFL history.  Sometimes you need to know when to move on.  I'm not saying we are there with Wentz, but a new HC better not be banking entirely on that.

Not for anything but Michael Vick's raw talent was on an entirely different level than Wentz'.  As much as I think Wentz is incredibly gifted/talented....Vick's raw ability/talent level was in another galaxy.   Vick could thrown a pinpoint accurate laser 70 yards down field with the flick of his wrist.  And his scrambling and elusiveness was likely the best ever among QB's  (Maybe Cunningham comes close).  His downside was that he relied on his gifted ability and talent vs. studying/learning/reading defenses, etc.

I honestly don't care if they keep everyone.  In an upside down sideways way of thinking, I actually prefer that they do.

1.  They all have a hand in this.  I don't want Howie in charge of the pending rebuild and I do not want him offloading cap problems in 2023 and beyond, which is exactly what he's already doing.  Just leave them all on the sinking ship.

2.  See above; they all have a hand in this.  If you believe that Howie isn't a good enough GM, Carson isn't a good enough QB, and Doug isn't a good enough coach...you are about to be subjected to a multi-year long-haul Chinese water torture of sequential firings.  First, a few years of a new coach waiting to realize they need a new QB.  Then a few years of Howie's seat getting warmer and warmer until Lurie is embarrassed into making a move.  Then we have a new GM, a coach he didn't hire who never won anything, and he's looking for a new QB.  So enter new head coach #2.

Spare me that cycle.  Let them all go down with the ship in 2021.

 

Geez.  No one is getting fired because of this year’s performance.  Schwartz may not be renewed but that may be his decision as much as the Eagles.  OL injuries and Covid get a lot of the blame.  Carson had a down year.   I do think Doug is forced to name an OC.  If Press has really been the voice in Carson’s ear, he may take the heat. Howie will be on a short leash because of the cap issue.  But the realism is this coming offseason is a bigger challenge initially than this year.   Vaccine available about draft time.  Scouting, all star games and pro days all screwed up.  But OTAs forward should be normal.  The realism is that going forward this year they need to be giving more snaps to potential players.  We saw some with less this past week.  Ostman got some snaps and trucked by Chubb. Juriga got some snaps but not by design. More snaps for Mailata.  Taylor spotted and saw a little Wallace. And yet still in first place. 

Just now, BigEFly said:

Geez.  No one is getting fired because of this year’s performance.  Schwartz may not be renewed but that may be his decision as much as the Eagles.  OL injuries and Covid get a lot of the blame.  Carson had a down year.   I do think Doug is forced to name an OC.  If Press has really been the voice in Carson’s ear, he may take the heat. Howie will be on a short leash because of the cap issue.  But the realism is this coming offseason is a bigger challenge initially than this year.   Vaccine available about draft time.  Scouting, all star games and pro days all screwed up.  But OTAs forward should be normal.  The realism is that going forward this year they need to be giving more snaps to potential players.  We saw some with less this past week.  Ostman got some snaps and trucked by Chubb. Juriga got some snaps but not by design. More snaps for Mailata.  Taylor spotted and saw a little Wallace. And yet still in first place. 

Well said. 

49 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t think enough people are thinking about the possibility of what happens if Michigan moves on from Harbaugh. 

I don’t think enough people talk about Harbaugh benching Alex Smith for Kaepernick.

Tell him he’s hired — but he has to keep Jim Schwartz as DC and associate HC

A down year from Wentz.  I guess that's one way to describe it.  I guess the dinosaurs had a down year when the asteroid hit.

1 hour ago, Arsenal79 said:

No top coaching candidate will come here and hitch his wagon to Carson Wentz.  Will not happen.  If we fire Doug, we'll be scrounging the depths of the candidate pool.

I'm available.

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Not for anything but Michael Vick's raw talent was on an entirely different level than Wentz'.  As much as I think Wentz is incredibly gifted/talented....Vick's raw ability/talent level was in another galaxy.   Vick could thrown a pinpoint accurate laser 70 yards down field with the flick of his wrist.  And his scrambling and elusiveness was likely the best ever among QB's  (Maybe Cunningham comes close).  His downside was that he relied on his gifted ability and talent vs. studying/learning/reading defenses, etc.

It still amazes me that he never won a SB.