Doug would be a great fit in Detroit. He could come in as the "players' coach" after the dictator Patricia and have 53 guys willing to kill for him on Sundays.

 

15 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

They've had, imo, the greatest RB of all time, Barry Sanders and one of the best WRs to ever play, Calvin Johnson, with nothing to show for.

Also had Suh for awhile. I don’t think he quite lived up to the hype but he was a really good DT for them 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Also had Suh for awhile. I don’t think he quite lived up to the hype but he was a really good DT for them 

Brett Perriman, Herman Moore and Johnny Morton were a pretty darn good trio at WR when they had Barry Sanders too.  No O-line, no fullback and having guys like Eric Kramer and Scott Mitchell didn't help at all.

46 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Brett Perriman, Herman Moore and Johnny Morton were a pretty darn good trio at WR when they had Barry Sanders too.  No O-line, no fullback and having guys like Eric Kramer and Scott Mitchell didn't help at all.

The Lions are just an enigma. I can’t imagine being a fan. Consecutive top 10 picks for multiple years and they ended up with Harrington, Charles Rogers, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Ernie Sims and Calvin Johnson. Outside of Johnson, all busts, 3 being WR’s. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I met one.  He drinks heavily every Sunday.   

 

 

Seriously though, poor guy has lost any real hope for his team and follows them, but never expects anything good to ever happen.  He knows even if it does, it won't last long.

Lions fans are pretty similar to Jets & Browns fans in the sense that if they ever wanted to switch teams, they’d get a nod of approval & understanding from me. Not like that means anything. But I won’t judge a guy for ditching the lions to become a chiefs fan

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

Doug would be a great fit in Detroit. He could come in as the "players' coach" after the dictator Patricia and have 53 guys willing to kill for him on Sundays.

 

Send Doug to Detroit for that top 10 pick they’re likely going to get now 😉

@In2football  Eagles 19 Seahawks 16. I refuse to give up on the season. 

9 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I would love this. This also feels like an Eagles type draft, so I don’t know whether I should love this. Lol

So with all these covid issues in the NFL getting worse, the possibility of having to cancel rest of the season is becoming more realistic. I don’t think they will with them already being over halfway done. But hypothetically say they do in next coming weeks. I’d imagine the draft order is set at whatever the records were at the time of cancelling. Which means Eagles still likely land a top 10, but I also think it means Doug and Howie stick around a little longer.
 

I’ve been standing firm that Doug & Howie definitely keep their jobs no matter how this season ends. But after hearing about Lurie today, I’m having my doubts about it now. We’ll see what happens after Monday. 

15 hours ago, schuy7 said:

Howie has way too much control over this team. Simple as that. Andy became frustrated. Chip did. Doug is now too.

Time to start looking at Jeff. It's ridiculous already 

5 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

@In2football  Eagles 19 Seahawks 16. I refuse to give up on the season. 

I want what hes having. Thats some good crap there. 

On 11/23/2020 at 8:17 PM, bpac55 said:

Lurie has to make a change.  If not both, then one or the other of DP or Howie has to go.  They just can't stand pat with the direction this organization is going.  They have NO money to sign any FA.  We have this team next year plus some draft picks.  They aren't going to magically turn in to 11-5, 10-6 or even 8-8.

For starters, Washington and NYG are both young, improving football teams with new coaching staffs.  The Eagles will be going into the offseason as the 3rd or 4th worst team in the East.  Washington has to figure out quarterback but all they need is an average player and they will be better next year.  Maybe they go after Dak.  NYG have youth, energy, get Saquon back and will continue to get better under JJ.

The Eagles and Cowboys will be fighting for the bottom spot.  Dallas has huge decisions to make starting with Dak.  I'd say they are in a better position than the Eagles due to his injury.  They aren't tied down to anyone at QB. They can probably bring him  back at a discounted/short term contract if they wanted or they can go after a guy they really think is the QB of the future.  Do you think they could package Amari Cooper, their 1st and some other assets to get to #1 for Trevor Lawrence?  They also have $33 million in cap space so they have flexibility to bring in FA.

That brings us to the Eagles who are $60 million in the hole.  They have the worst QB in the NFL who has a $59 million cap hit next year.  They are going to be shedding salaries just to get under the cap.  They will have new starters potentially at LT, C, RG, WR, CB2, DT2, DE2, MLB, OLB, S.  The problem is, the new starters are already on this team or potential draft picks (no faith Howie can draft).  So we know what this team is going to be next year.  

Is this roster going under the same coaching going to suddenly be better?  Is Howie going to make the right draft picks to possibly start?  Is Wentz going to suddenly not be the quarterback who has over 100 turnovers in just 60+ games?  

QB- Wentz    RB- Sanders   TE- Goedert   WR1- Fulgham   WR2- Reagor   Slot- Ward    LT- Dillard    LG- Herbig/rookie?   C- Seumalo    RG- Brooks/Herbig?    RT- Johnson

DE1- BG    DT- Cox    DT- Hargrave    DE2- Sweat/R    OLB- Singleton/Bradley/R   MLB- Edwards    OLB- Taylor/R    CB1- Slay    CB2- R    Slot- LeBlanc/Maddox   S- McLeod    S- Wallace/R
 

I have NO faith in this team from Lurie on down.  Lurie doesn't have the sack to make a big move to bring about changes.  Howie can't draft t save his life and his roster management is atrocious.  DP is a lost head coach.  Everything about him right now is bad.  I don't see one positive from his coaching.  

 

 

All I got to say Wentz goes so should Howie. I don’t think Wentz is unsalvageable, he has to learn how to sell things better ... life in the NFL, buys a half second or so

On 11/23/2020 at 9:51 PM, Penn7980 said:

The extra offensive help is one problem.  They need to streamline those inputs and identify the plays that works.  More concerning is that the team has not been able to make in-game adjustments to turn things around, or stop the slide. 

Unlike Foles, Wentz has not been effective with RPO.  He is still holding on the ball too long, that could be the results of receivers not getting open and/or the OL getting beat too fast.  Simplify the plays and shorten the progressive reads.  Throw the ball away is still a fine option.

The team holds on to vets too long.  Yes, they brought the SB win to the team and city.  Injuries become an issue and some are no longer able to perform.  It is time to let them go.  Go young and let the inexperienced one play more snaps.  

Howie and Doug are part of the problem.  Not sure if Lurie would make the wholesale change.  Howie can move to just the contract and cao management.  Get someone else for talent evaluation and draft.  Like the suggestion for Doug to refresh his staff for one more season.  If that does not bring progress, he will be moved as well.

 

 

I think the pocket isn’t deep or big enough, put me down for that

On 11/23/2020 at 10:27 PM, Iggles_Phan said:

Frankly, Richard Rodgers is WAY better than Alshon.   I couldn't believe that 'effort' from Alshon on that INT.  Somehow, a guy who is 6'2" mistimes his "jump" and ends up 4'10" tall by the time the ball arrives.  The ball easily floats into the DBs arms at a height of about 7'2"... and Alshon rolls away.

Have you watched the play ? I mean really watched it ... DPI all the way, still too little too late. Just being fair now that the ish has hit the fan

Monday will not be boring. 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

Monday will not be boring. 

That seems like an even worse idea.  2-3 plays at a time....OK so in those 3 plays what if he gets in to a groove?  Do you pull him out?  When do you decide to pull Carson and put in Hurts for these 2-3 plays?  It almost gives away part of the first 15 plays because this sounds like part of scripted play calling.  Just another way the Eagles don't do things the right way. 

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

Monday will not be boring. 

I’m 100 percent against this. We should be trying to repair him, not inflict further damage. 

The best-case scenario for the team is what? Hurts plays well and then...?

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’m 100 percent against this. We should be trying to repair him, not inflict further damage. 

The best-case scenario for the team is what? Hurts plays well and then...?

Then you take him out and put back Wentz back in because we only wanted to get him 2-3 plays at a time.  

This plan is bad on every level.

If you're going to sit Carson for a game or 2 to let him regroup and get his head right that's one thing.  To have a gameplan that calls for him to be taken out of the game for another QB to take snaps (and like you said we want him to play well) what good is going to come from that?  That's not letting your QB see the game at all.

What’s worse than one bad QB? Two bad QBs at the same time. We’re going to be an even bigger laughingstock than we already are.
 

We’ve got a long hard decade ahead of us. Hopefully the Sixers or Flyers can do something fun and exciting because the Phillies are going to be terrible for a while as well. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m 100 percent against this. We should be trying to repair him, not inflict further damage. 

The best-case scenario for the team is what? Hurts plays well and then...?

It lights a fire under Carson, who obviously came into this season content and complacent.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Then you take him out and put back Wentz back in because we only wanted to get him 2-3 plays at a time.  

This plan is bad on every level.

If you're going to sit Carson for a game or 2 to let him regroup and get his head right that's one thing.  To have a gameplan that calls for him to be taken out of the game for another QB to take snaps (and like you said we want him to play well) what good is going to come from that?  That's not letting your QB see the game at all.

Benching him for a game or two is just as bad. We’re stuck with him no matter what in 2021, so we need to get him fixed. If we bench him and Hurts plays decent football for a game or two, how do you go back to Wentz?

Everything this team does for the rest of the season needs to be geared toward getting Wentz playing better. It’s the only thing that really matters. 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

The best-case scenario for the team is what? Hurts plays well and then...?

He looks good and now you have a valuable asset at the most important position that you can either trade or potentially play some more.

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

It lights a fire under Carson, who obviously came into this season content and complacent.

This is absurd. 

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

It lights a fire under Carson, who obviously came into this season content and complacent.

If you want to light a fire under him bench him for a game not just a play here and there.

Just now, Arsenal79 said:

It lights a fire under Carson, who obviously came into this season content and complacent.

Yeah thats his problem, he needs to be more fiery

.....and we just time traveled to 2009

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m 100 percent against this. We should be trying to repair him, not inflict further damage. 

The best-case scenario for the team is what? Hurts plays well and then...?

This

its desperation by doug, who should now be fired