6 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

It's still early so anything can happen but as of now, my guess for next year is that Howie remains managing the cap and they bring in a "GM" for player personnel. 

Pederson stays but they hire an experienced offensive coordinator (possibly former head coach). 

I hope you're wrong.  I don't want Howie back in the NovaCare.

7 hours ago, ManuManu said:

The worse Wentz plays, the less attractive this job becomes. Our cap sucks. Our young talent is non-existent. Our QB is broken. 

Where does the Eagles HC job stack up compared to: Jets, Jags, Cowboys, Texans, Lions, Chargers, Bears?

Are you kidding?  That just makes it much easier for a new coach.

It couldnt be worse and it could be much, much better.  Who wouldn't want to take that chance?

Youre either a hero for turning it around or just the guy that tried and failed to revive a once-promising player

34 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Welp, I was wrong and Slay had a rough night. Coverage wasn’t always bad, DK just made every play he needed and Slay didn’t. I still think it was the right defensive gameplan to shut down Lockett and leave Slay on an island the majority of the time, he just has to do a better job and the offense has to actually move the ball against the worst passing defense in the league. 

To be fair, Slay is not a match size-wise or physical-wise to DK, who can win almost every contest catch.  Slay did not have much S help either.  He did play to his ability and put up good efforts.

Can't go over the thought that we missed DK in the draft and picked JJaw instead, who may have already written off by the team.

Could we please get Mailata to dwarf toss Howie out of the building?

Thank You in advance!!

32 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I don't know who predicted it but someone posted that because of the bad weather Peterson would call at least 50 passes

46 passes 14 runs including 5 by Wentz

Well done.

Insane when your oline is struggling

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Are you kidding?  That just makes it much easier for a new coach.

It couldnt be worse and it could be much, much better.  Who wouldn't want to take that chance?

Youre either a hero for turning it around or just the guy that tried and failed to revive a once-promising player

Yeah, you’re oversimplifying things. Our owner is meddlesome it appears. We’re going to have to gut the team because our cap stinks. We have little talent. 

Your selling point is a broken QB on a bad roster? 

Yeah, we’re gonna be behind a lot of teams if that’s the case. 

Last night, the offense was pathetic.  Missing targets, not lining up properly, snap over the head, ....  It looked as if the team has not practised at all.  Just like a bunch of kids in a pick-up game.  Talked about the same coaching staff and same system, there is no sign of familiarity or continuity.  Get the guys to run the plays over and over again, until they drop.

31 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So after the JJAW debacle we might've drafted another space cadet at WR? Oh joy.

Yeah. Thats the play Doug called out Reagor in his PC. If he was supposed to be where the play called him to be its a td.

27 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I fell into a Twitter rabbit hole last night and found a bunch of clips of Fulgham getting destroyed in press coverage against Seattle. It was really bad. 

So put him in motion jfc its not that hard

help your players, Doug!!

54 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Welp, I was wrong and Slay had a rough night. Coverage wasn’t always bad, DK just made every play he needed and Slay didn’t. I still think it was the right defensive gameplan to shut down Lockett and leave Slay on an island the majority of the time, he just has to do a better job and the offense has to actually move the ball against the worst passing defense in the league. 

The reality is that the defense played well enough to give the team a chance to win.  The offense played terribly and that has been the case all season.  

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, you’re oversimplifying things. Our owner is meddlesome it appears. We’re going to have to gut the team because our cap stinks. We have little talent. 

Your selling point is a broken QB on a bad roster? 

Yeah, we’re gonna be behind a lot of teams if that’s the case. 

I guess it depends on if Lurie would dictate the coaching staff again.  As far as the job itself, I think it would be an attractive job to a lot of coaches.  There arent a lot of openings where youre walking into a great situation, by definition

I think the organizational dynamic was the right choice at the right time post-Chip Kelly, they just failed to adjust to the needs of the team after the SB and now we have a total mess.

I think the only reason he is meddling is because hes been forced to meddle. He should have probably meddled sooner, frankly

Just now, Mike31mt said:

I guess it depends on if Lurie would dictate the coaching staff again.  As far as the job itself, I think it would be an attractive job to a lot of coaches.

I think the organizational dynsmic was the right choice at the right time post-Chip Kelly, they just failed to adjust to the needs of the team after the SB and now we have a total mess.

I think the only reason he is meddling is because hes been forced to meddle. He should have probably meddled sooner, frankly

Agree with the bolded.  Sweeping changes need to be made.  We have blown in the last two drafts, and guys we should have picked are blowing up.  Metcalf, Jefferson, and the one that really bugs me is Chinn.  Reports he was the highest player on our board and we selected Hurts instead.

That game was a wonderful effort by Schwartz and his staff to point the finger elsewhere and say, not on me!  They did all they could and played hard all game.  The O was opposite.  Ugh

I was heartened to see the ESPN coverage get after the Eagles and the coverage this morning on GMFB has been of similar tone.  Lurie may have had plans to tinker with a few things in the offseason, but even someone with the rosiest tinted glasses can't help but how awful that O is, how awful the cap is to fix it and how the roster is just badly constructed.  All of it is on Lurie, as leader of the Eagles. 

I will be forever thankful to Pederson and Roseman for SB52, but this is the right time to move this organisation on to another level and let them go elsewhere.  It's lived off sniffing itself for too long and needs to be humbled back to hard work.

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I guess it depends on if Lurie would dictate the coaching staff again.  As far as the job itself, I think it would be an attractive job to a lot of coaches.  There arent a lot of openings where youre walking into a great situation, by definition

I think the organizational dynamic was the right choice at the right time post-Chip Kelly, they just failed to adjust to the needs of the team after the SB and now we have a total mess.

I think the only reason he is meddling is because hes been forced to meddle. He should have probably meddled sooner, frankly

I think you’re optimistic about the situation. This job sucks, and we’d be firing a SB winning HC three years after that win. 

Nothing is exciting about this job other than it’s one of 32 in the world and it comes with a great paycheck. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

I think you’re optimistic about the situation. This job sucks, and we’d be firing a SB winning HC three years after that win. 

Nothing is exciting about this job other than it’s one of 32 in the world and it comes with a great paycheck. 

Yeah you're way off on this one.  The Eagles would have absolutely zero issues finding a head coach.  Zero. 

As for Carson, I worry about the physical toll he is taking on a dead duck season.  If he is the Franchise QB for the future, and I believe he is, then protect him for the future.  The Eagles biggest priority now.

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Yeah you're way off on this one.  The Eagles would have absolutely zero issues finding a head coach.  Zero. 

You’re misunderstanding. How would it rank among the other potential openings? What would make this an attractive job vs the others?

Of course we’ll find someone, but we’ll probably miss the best candidates. 

It'd be interesting to see how Dougs contract is worded.

Does he get paid if he gets fired but not if he quits?

I can't believe ANY coach could call games so consistantly bad and not have his team prepared.

Anyone listen to Doug after the game? He sounds like he doesn't care anymore. Like he is so disinterested in being there anymore. He is checked out.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I think you’re optimistic about the situation. This job sucks, and we’d be firing a SB winning HC three years after that win. 

Nothing is exciting about this job other than it’s one of 32 in the world and it comes with a great paycheck. 

So compare it to the other potential vacancies you mentioned: 

Jets?  Somehow perpetually irrelevant in NY, a hellhole

Jags?  Horrible owner, irrelevant franchise, no

Cowboys? The meddling-est since probably Steinbrenner passed away.  He would have fired a new coach after a year.  Arguable

Texans?  BOB has gutted that team as well, they have a similar situation to the Eagles but not the pedigree or the flashiness of playing in the NFCE.  Arguable

Lions?  Laughable, a perpetual disaster

Chargers?  Promising young QB. Irrelevant franchise with little chance of ever winning in that division.  Probably still an attractive job for a newbie

Bears?  Why?  They have nothing, arguable at best

 

The cap situation is not going to scare a coach who is going to want to blow it up anyway, and its a built-in excuse that would buy time.  I think youre being pessimistic

 

1 minute ago, Sturm said:

Anyone listen to Doug after the game? He sounds like he doesn't care anymore. Like he is so disinterested in being there anymore. He is checked out.

Nope. He's completely in over his head and has no idea what to do.

How pathetic was that first drive of the game.  They had a 1st and 5 yet went 3 and out in 13 seconds after 3 straight pass attempts.  You knew right then they were losing that game.  Bad coaching, horrible throws from Carson.  Just so much bad all around.  

 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

That would be me... ahhh thank you 

I think it was Joe Banner who said Doug's wouldnt be upset if he got fired. 

Well, if he feels Howie F the team up and is unfix-able.
Dougy got paid and got a ring. -- Yay I wouldn't be upset either to get fired.

42 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I dunno, the last paragraph scares me..it sounds like Howie has blamed Lurie for the JJAW pick.  If Lurie has that much say in football decisions then the Eagles are in a lot more trouble that we thought.  I still want a new, real GM and a new coach but Lurie will be the one constant.  You don't want your GM looking over his shoulder wondering what the owner wants you to do.  That's a bad bad sign.  I said it earlier in the year.  For the Eagles to truly get away from the direction they are going, Lurie selling the team would go a long way.  Never going to happen but he's just far too involved.

I doubt Lurie sees himself as meddling.  I think he relies on Roseman and Pederson to make these decisions and they are likely somewhat deferential.  My guess is he was given several options and told all kinds of good things about JJAW before the pick.  So this isn't Lurie making his own analysis and deciding.  My guess it's more like he sees himself as making an executive decision everyone can live with to assuage egos.  So all the more reason he probably sees this as someone making him look bad.